Spurs were horrible. String a winning streak together maybe then we can talk again about Ole suitability for the job
Ole Sack Watch
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Great result and shows the team is fully behind him.
Win against City and Utd are level on points with them!
Having a sack watch thread when the manager is going nowhere divides the fanbase imo and is pointless.
Close the thread until relevant again.
Win against City and Utd are level on points with them!
Having a sack watch thread when the manager is going nowhere divides the fanbase imo and is pointless.
Close the thread until relevant again.
mate, it's Spurs!!! Next week will be the game
This is how it has been since he has been here. He can go on a run and could potentially do it again, but we will fall short again and go through another terrible run.
So at 3pm next Saturday then?
Obviously nobody should be changing their opinion either way after one game. He's been here for over three years, you should be judging him on the entire picture.
Frankly I've made my mind up about him and it would take a spectacular improvement in the way we play across the rest of the season (along with the major trophy challenge that was our goal at the start of the season) to change my mind.
However, you have to be realistic. Solskjaer's immediate job is to get us through the next three games and he found a way to get us past obstacle one 3-0. Accepting he needs to go at some point, he did well today.
Frankly I've made my mind up about him and it would take a spectacular improvement in the way we play across the rest of the season (along with the major trophy challenge that was our goal at the start of the season) to change my mind.
However, you have to be realistic. Solskjaer's immediate job is to get us through the next three games and he found a way to get us past obstacle one 3-0. Accepting he needs to go at some point, he did well today.
We lost 0-5 against our biggest rivals, haven't challenged for a title in years, already 8 points behind the league leaders with some of the easiest fixtures already played. Yeah, no need for a sack watch at all, ole at the wheel for life.
Well if you want to spectacularly miss the point I was making then fair enough.
The poster was talking about the bad week he'd had. Do you only care about people who earn less than you? Seems a feckin weird way to be.
He plays with always the same 13/14 even if they are not fit
Maybe he is right
But you can sell the other 17 players of the squad saving a lot of money
Maybe he is right
But you can sell the other 17 players of the squad saving a lot of money
Let's not kid ourselves, he has already got past the crisis. He rode the storm. City game will never be as bad as Liverpool's game.
Liverpool's defeat was the closest he'll ever get to the sack. Now that he's past it, I actually expect him to be our manager for the next 2-3 years, probably more.
Agree with the most of what you said. Both the owners and the board are inept. Spent a lot, won sweet fook all big after SAF left. Now what I disagree about is being 3 points behind City. If anything, last season we were ahead of them, and look where we ended up. We lost to Villareal being huge favourites. Since then we spent big again and got royaly done by Pool at Old Trafford. Will he have deserved sacking if we are beaten by City? Is it worth to keep him, knowing full well that he will win fook all, whilst having one of the bext squads in the world? Ronnie won't get young, nor will Cavani. Matic is almost done too. VdB will leave, Pogs will most probably leave for free. Martial, Jesse and Mata will leave too. Do we believe that the owners will want to spend big again after having our debt increased? Is Ole an attractive proposition for elite players, like Haaland? My answer is no, but I fully expect the Board to be ready to write another season off.
Are we being punished now for having a sustained period of dominance in the past? It happened to Liverpool who dominated the 70’s/80’s and then went the next 30 years before winning another league title. Now after us dominating nearly the first 20 odd years of the PL we are approaching nearly 10 years without a title. Certainly seems that way. 
Yes it should be an expectation to challenge for the league, but look at our midfield compared to L'pool, Chelsea and Citys. I doubt we'll have a chance to win either CL or the league with the midfield we have. Look at their CM option and compare it with ours. We have a worldclass defender in Varane, then you got Bruno, Ronaldo and Cavani on top that's worldclass. The rest of the players are pretty mediocre. Then of course they have 3 worldclass managers as well with a pretty decorated CV compared to Solskjær. I'm uncertain if he can get on that level tactically and if he has/will get what it takes to win us the PL. One thing is for certain though; he won't go down without a fight.
Would you expect him to manage us for free? What an absurd line of reasoning..
This is exactly how I feel. It was a good result and all but it was such an obvious step away from what the plan had clearly been for the season. Doesn't speak well if Ole or the coaching staff that we have no idea how to integrate attacking players in to the squad.
Oh give it over, total horseshite. He's also signed an 80m CB, 50m RB, 100m RW and 40m CAM on top of Bruno. The way we played today suits Ole and our coaching staff but we'll continue to go absolutely nowhere as a club. You support Ole and the lads more than the club if you think this is acceptable moving forward.
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If anyone changes their opinion on him due too today you are very silly. If you are Ole in before today then fair enough but if you wanted him out this changes nothing. We always have these games under Ole but too challenge for the league which we should we need consistentcy which is the problem.
Today he got it right, we played well and result is delightful but we need to do this every week
Today he got it right, we played well and result is delightful but we need to do this every week
Nuno now the favourite for next manager sacked.
Good win, can we now sack him please
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as he should be. The football they are serving up under him is nothing but criminal.
fair enough, but if we stick with a 532 might as well bring in an expert in this formation knowing that the players can actually play well in it
One result like this cannot change the votes on here. Most of the fan base now believes that we have seen the best of Ole and it's time to move on
Unless we see 8-10 games with that level of performance, I don't think a large majority would be okay with him continuing to manage us. We need to stop being streaky, but I'd love for Ole to go on his streak for the next 2 games and win against Atalanta and City.
It will keep us close to the top and keep the season alive I guess. Let's not get carried away with being 3 points of City. We are still 8 points off the top for Christ sakes.
In their game today, City were dominating with 10 men. Our team cant even do that with 11 men! Says a lot about our state of affairs.
Unless we see 8-10 games with that level of performance, I don't think a large majority would be okay with him continuing to manage us. We need to stop being streaky, but I'd love for Ole to go on his streak for the next 2 games and win against Atalanta and City.
It will keep us close to the top and keep the season alive I guess. Let's not get carried away with being 3 points of City. We are still 8 points off the top for Christ sakes.
In their game today, City were dominating with 10 men. Our team cant even do that with 11 men! Says a lot about our state of affairs.
I wouldn’t want to play a game of Russian roulette with Ole. I wouldn’t want to play a game of Russian roulette full stop tbf but you get the point.
All Ole needs to do is play his best team, tonight he did that. Stop with the obsession with 4,2,3,1 and play to our strengths. That was a great performance tonight.
No slandering but that's about the only I can justify someone having that opinion
I still can't see him surviving past the week. We can beat Atalanta with the same tactics as today but Pep has seen it more than once now and he'll have a game plan that I can't see Ole countering.
To be fair, whenever Pep tries to tinker and be too clever, it backfires horribly
The guy has so many lives, I have a real fear he will still be managing us next season.
Haha
That's a crazy assessment, Rashford, Greenwood, Sancho, DVB, Pogba and Shaw are a good enough bunch to play at a better level. The closest element to mediocrity about United at the moment is the manager.
You mention the quality of the midfield at Liverpool did we not see a few seasons ago the scousers reach the UCL final and push City to the title with a midfield of Wjanldum, Henderson and Milner ! What world class midfield do Chelsea have ? We saw the same Kante, Kovacic, Havertz and Ziyech offer up a shambles under Lampard. The transition to them being identified as a better bunch came from the change of a better manager, nothing else.
The biggest issue with United is the lack of identity, lack of cohesion and lack of consistency in performances. Those issues are flaws in tactical competencies not personnel issues.
My post clearly wasn't as funny as it seemed in my head so.
I hate Fergie for doing this to us!Are we being punished now for having a sustained period of dominance in the past? It happened to Liverpool who dominated the 70’s/80’s and then went the next 30 years before winning another league title. Now after us dominating nearly the first 20 odd years of the PL we are approaching nearly 10 years without a title. Certainly seems that way.
You know what gets to me about Ole the most is he is not proactive at all. He's far too late with every tweak he makes. We've been crying out for a formation change such as this one since the Villareal game (even before that). He waits till we go through a terrible run and a 5-0 spanking from our biggest rivals to finally do it. Everyone and their dog knew that the 4-2-4 was not working. It proves to me his inability as a tactician and as a manager and it's really unfortunate because if we played that formation in our last 3 pl games we would've been nearer Chelsea instead we're here level on points with Arsenal.
I still think he has to go tbh and my mind isn't changed but that formation change may have saved his job, because if we play City with that shape and Rashford instead of Cavani we'll probably win.
The only problem for me is Sancho, we've effectively spent 80 million on a bench player who won't make our strongest 11. Pogba can play in the midfield 2 in this formation because of the support of the wingbacks and back 3 but Sancho will really struggle to fit unless he drops Bruno.
This is the reason I wanted Conte in the first place and I'm sure it's why he's so interested in the job. we're tailor made for a 3-4-3 or a 3-5-2. Conte would have us challenging on all fronts with this squad.
I still think he has to go tbh and my mind isn't changed but that formation change may have saved his job, because if we play City with that shape and Rashford instead of Cavani we'll probably win.
The only problem for me is Sancho, we've effectively spent 80 million on a bench player who won't make our strongest 11. Pogba can play in the midfield 2 in this formation because of the support of the wingbacks and back 3 but Sancho will really struggle to fit unless he drops Bruno.
This is the reason I wanted Conte in the first place and I'm sure it's why he's so interested in the job. we're tailor made for a 3-4-3 or a 3-5-2. Conte would have us challenging on all fronts with this squad.
But do you really think they are going to Sack him if he wins two and looses one. Because I think this win today has pretty much safed him.
Ha nah I wouldn’t change it for anything but it does seem that way sometimes.
I loved the victory today, very well played all around.
It doesn’t change the fact that Ole needs to go though, as a manager who only seems to get this great squad playing great football when his head is on the chopping block, has no business managing this team imo.
It doesn’t change the fact that Ole needs to go though, as a manager who only seems to get this great squad playing great football when his head is on the chopping block, has no business managing this team imo.
Mate, he’s just survived a 0-5 defeat to the dippers… he isn’t getting sacked after the City game, which btw the players will be properly up for.
A win over City puts Utd level points with them!
Is there a point for a sack watch thread for a manager that has the clubs firm backing, has the dressing room, has just beaten a top 4 rival and is clearly going nowhere?
All it does is divide the fanbase.
Surviving the week!? Mate, he’s the Glazers’ man, he’s going nowhere.
If we beat Atalanta and City next week maybe he has a shot at seeing out the season. But right now I'd say he's still on the brink.
It’s a bad day because it’s less likely he will be sacked. The Ole out peeps want him to be sacked. Like now.
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