Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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Finishing in Top 4 = Slight to decent chance of happening
Champions League win = Minuscule to slight chance of happening

One of those two and I'm sure he'll get the gig full-time with a non-risky contract length of, say, 2 years.

Anything short of that and I'm guessing we'll be going all in for Pochetino in the summer.

If he wins the Champions League he'll get a statue.

I do agree though. Despite everybody getting carried away with how good the recent games have been I think it's pretty obvious that the board are looking beyond him.
 
I can confirm, judging by Poch's Spurs performance against Cardiff, Ole's brand of football is a lot better and entertaining than Poch IMO.
 
I think the real test for OGS will not be playing against the big teams but when we lose Pogba to form or injury. Be interesting to see how we fare in attack without the on-field talisman.
 
I can confirm, judging by Poch's Spurs performance against Cardiff, Ole's brand of football is a lot better and entertaining than Poch IMO.

Do you think it will be as free flowing and entertaining against any side of note? Somehow I don't think it will be, the real test will be Ole's tactical nous against a side at the top
 
I've just thought; we don't need to junk our version of Something Tells Me I'm Into Something Good, we can just swap Jose for Ole. Happy days.
 
I've just thought; we don't need to junk our version of Something Tells Me I'm Into Something Good, we can just swap Jose for Ole. Happy days.

Would rather we did, that song was an embarrassment and I’d rather we forgot it.

They were already singing your suggested version against Huddersfield btw
 
I don't believe him for one second when he says he eats crisps and cake while watching telly. He has kept a nice figure.

Footballers pack on weight much quicker after their careers are over because of their metabolism.
 
If he wins the Champions League he'll get a statue.

I do agree though. Despite everybody getting carried away with how good the recent games have been I think it's pretty obvious that the board are looking beyond him.

How is it obvious? Apart from the fact his title is interim manager, which literally means stand in manager.
 
I don't believe him for one second when he says he eats crisps and cake while watching telly. He has kept a nice figure.

Footballers pack on weight much quicker after their careers are over because of their metabolism.
You're thinking about what your crisps and cake look like. Solskjaer will have meant 'fika', which is hugely common thing in Scandinavia but doesn't translate well to English.
 
I do agree with how he does in the big games will be the biggest tests.

At the same time i think it's unreasonable of us expecting him beating Poch who's had 3 years with his Spurs team with Ole just coming in, still learning about his team.

All i can say is the last 3 games has felt like Ferguson teams and i can say it's a great feeling watching us at the moment.
 
Would rather we did, that song was an embarrassment and I’d rather we forgot it.

They were already singing your suggested version against Huddersfield btw

It soon became embarrassing when it transpired we were playing shit on a stick football, but I quite enjoyed the song. It doesn't surprise me it's been brought back under Ole.
 
It soon became embarrassing when it transpired we were playing shit on a stick football, but I quite enjoyed the song. It doesn't surprise me it's been brought back under Ole.

It’s a decent song but we started singing it way before Mou deserved it, and way past the point of him having any chance of deserving it.

It just reminds me of bad times like the Come on David Moyes song.

I’d rather we just move on from anything associated with the Mourinho era.
 
I agree Bruce and Hughes are hardly the Chuckle Brothers in terms of personality or playing style at other clubs but in charge of United albeit in a caretaker role I bet they would fill their boots especially with our attacking options whilst sorting the defence out. I’d fancy our chances against top 6 clubs too.

Both Paul Ince and Harry Rednapp said Bruce would be their preferred choice so I’m not being totally deluded here. :eek:

Pundits often likes to go against the grain to get attention, Bruce and Hughes have both been at it 10+ years as PL/Championship managers and both have hardly achieved anything
 
Pundits often likes to go against the grain to get attention, Bruce and Hughes have both been at it 10+ years as PL/Championship managers and both have hardly achieved anything

Yeah on BBC 5 Live - Paul Ince and Robbie Savage both said Hughes or Bruce would be perfect... i nearly crashed the fecking car laughing.

To think these knobheads get paid to spout this stuff - with that insight you might as well just get any dickhead off the street a radio show
 
It’s a decent song but we started singing it way before Mou deserved it, and way past the point of him having any chance of deserving it.

It just reminds me of bad times like the Come on David Moyes song.

I’d rather we just move on from anything associated with the Mourinho era.

I think replacing Jose with Ole in the same song is quite a nice message from the fans that we're all made up with the change, but I can fully understand the idea of a clean break and it's not as if we don't have plenty of Ole songs to choose from.
 
Pundits often likes to go against the grain to get attention, Bruce and Hughes have both been at it 10+ years as PL/Championship managers and both have hardly achieved anything

Yes and we got a serial winnner with Mourinho and look how that turned out! :(

I reckon with a big budget and top quality players Hughes and Bruce with all their experience and love of United to boot are not ridiculous options.
 
Yes and we got a serial winnner with Mourinho and look how that turned out! :(

I reckon with a big budget and top quality players Hughes and Bruce with all their experience and love of United to boot are not ridiculous options.

I'm not sure about that, I don't think Hughes holds us in particularly high regard these days.

I agree with the wider point though, I don't think Bruce is as laughable an option as caretaker as some. He still has the love and passion for the club that he's always had, and that's a good portion of what we need now given how terminally lacking Jose was in both. Ole has brought some better, more energetic football too but Brucie with Phelan, Carrick and McKenna would probably have been fine to be honest (I accept the point it would have looked a little odd :lol:).
 
Yes and we got a serial winnner with Mourinho and look how that turned out! :(

I reckon with a big budget and top quality players Hughes and Bruce with all their experience and love of United to boot are not ridiculous options.
You still harping on about this? With hindsight, would you still want Bruce or Hughes? Also, Hughes love of United? The former City manager, who has been taking snide shots at us for years.
 
Yes and we got a serial winnner with Mourinho and look how that turned out! :(

I reckon with a big budget and top quality players Hughes and Bruce with all their experience and love of United to boot are not ridiculous options.

He's been an absolute knob for some time now, has a strange perception of himself. Would've been a disaster.
 
i hope he sustains the form and atttitude.

He will need to show some tactical nous too

It would be great to have someone manage the club who understands and loves the club
 
I told a friend even without a manager the kind of football we will play will be totally different from what mourinho has been serving us.
What Ole is doing is fecking stunning, imagine this is not his team, imagine this is a group of men he has been told to lead, a group he just interacted with 3 weeks ago and getting all this from them in 3 weeks. The talent in our disposal is incredible only a person to unlock it.

About the 'how we will do in big games' which everybody here is talking about few pointers
Even with mourinho when we did attack, city comeback, spurs sanchez goal, Stamford Bridge 2-2, we were stunning now imagine with Ole, guys start rubbing your hands in anticipation.

Yes we will lose games, yes through player mistakes, wrong tactics from ole but never from negative vibes, players being confused with what to do, beaten without pride never again.
Even Ferguson was being beaten 6-1 by city in OT, it will happen also for ole but guys here we have a very good starting point for something remarkable.

Lasy words, which i told my friend, you are man lookin for a lady to marry, you are from a toxic relationship (Mourinho) who made you sad, never appreciative, never grateful, always complaining, picking fights, saying you haven't spent much money on her,
now you get a lady who knows you inside out, probably since childhood, makes you smile just when she opens her mouth, her words are your melodic love tones, appreciate you, takes you as you are no complain, young can give you 20+ years importantly behaves the way you want What Else Do You What? What? What
 
Yes and we got a serial winnner with Mourinho and look how that turned out! :(

I reckon with a big budget and top quality players Hughes and Bruce with all their experience and love of United to boot are not ridiculous options.

None of us can know, but seeing as Bruce and Hughes have been managing since 04 and not made any kind of impact does not reflect very well on them as managers tbf. Its not that i dont think they could not handle a caretaker role, but i dont think they would be spectacular either.

To put it in other words; history would suggest Bruce and Hughes are mediocre managers and would probably manage to steady the ship until May, but not much else. Ole is much less experienced and more of a gamble, but could potentially be much better than both and maybe hes our next permanent manager?
 
I'm not sure about that, I don't think Hughes holds us in particularly high regard these days.

I agree with the wider point though, I don't think Bruce is as laughable an option as caretaker as some. He still has the love and passion for the club that he's always had, and that's a good portion of what we need now given how terminally lacking Jose was in both. Ole has brought some better, more energetic football too but Brucie with Phelan, Carrick and McKenna would probably have been fine to be honest (I accept the point it would have looked a little odd :lol:).

Ok maybe not quite a love of United in Hughes case but at least he knows the club and it’s traditions and as an ex striker I can’t believe he would play a defensive style with the quality of our attack. I bet he would have snatched the clubs hand off if he was offered the caretakers role.
 
I don't believe him for one second when he says he eats crisps and cake while watching telly. He has kept a nice figure.

Footballers pack on weight much quicker after their careers are over because of their metabolism.

What do you mean by this out of interest? That all footballers have the same metabolism?

You only have to look at ex footballers to see there's a massive range. From those who look like they never stopped. Like giggs. To those who are huge like ruddock.
But then both are totally different frames.
 
Ok maybe not quite a love of United in Hughes case but at least he knows the club and it’s traditions and as an ex striker I can’t believe he would play a defensive style with the quality of our attack. I bet he would have snatched the clubs hand off if he was offered the caretakers role.

Doesn't make it a good idea though. Not sure why anyone would think that Hughes is all that well liked.
 
Ok maybe not quite a love of United in Hughes case but at least he knows the club and it’s traditions and as an ex striker I can’t believe he would play a defensive style with the quality of our attack. I bet he would have snatched the clubs hand off if he was offered the caretakers role.

Maybe. I think love and passion for United was the number one quality in the caretaker candidates, so I would have put Ole and even the likes of Bruce above Hiddink for example, who has a proven record in management but nothing to do with United. Hughes is patchy as a manager and has been less than complimentary of us in the recent past so I'd have been less keen on him.

For what it's worth I think Ole was a great appointment as he has the passion in spades, is a younger more up and coming manager who cannot yet be pigeonholed as a midtable/lower league journeyman and is clearly interested in playing positive attacking football.
 
Doesn't make it a good idea though. Not sure why anyone would think that Hughes is all that well liked.

A manager doesn’t have to be well liked to be successful and nice guys don’t always win. Maybe I’ve got a soft spot for Hughes as he was one of my heroes back in the 80s but I would take Bruce over him for sure. Just intrigued how Hughes would have played it - all hypothetical of course!
 
A manager doesn’t have to be well liked to be successful and nice guys don’t always win. Maybe I’ve got a soft spot for Hughes as he was one of my heroes back in the 80s but I would take Bruce over him for sure. Just intrigued how Hughes would have played it - all hypothetical of course!

IMO you're confused about what we needed then. The entire club was tired of Mourinho, from the players to the general staff, the general atmosphere was reported to be dire. We needed optimism, someone to lift everyone up and give a bit of much needed hope that things can be turned around. Bringing Hughes in would've been like treating a gunshot wound by stabbing someone.
 
IMO you're confused about what we needed then. The entire club was tired of Mourinho, from the players to the general staff, the general atmosphere was reported to be dire. We needed optimism, someone to lift everyone up and give a bit of much needed hope that things can be turned around. Bringing Hughes in would've been like treating a gunshot wound by stabbing someone.

Yes I agree we needed the feelgood factor back at the club and the change has been remarkable though it wasn’t exactly rocket science achieving it. Hughes may have a face like a slapped arse but it certainly wouldn’t be in charge of United!:)

I’m just playing devil’s advocate suggesting alternative caretakers that meet the ex United legend criteria that could have achieved the same effect but with substantially more experience to handle the inevitable rough patches.
 
Yes I agree we needed the feelgood factor back at the club and the change has been remarkable though it wasn’t exactly rocket science achieving it. Hughes may have a face like a slapped arse but it certainly wouldn’t be in charge of United!:)

I’m just playing devil’s advocate suggesting alternative caretakers that meet the ex United legend criteria that could have achieved the same effect but with substantially more experience to handle the inevitable rough patches.

It's not his face, it's his general behavior that is the problem, he's absolutely miserable. The players would be just as miserable under him as they were under Jose towards the end.

You've mistaken what the criteria was.
 
Maybe. I think love and passion for United was the number one quality in the caretaker candidates, so I would have put Ole and even the likes of Bruce above Hiddink for example, who has a proven record in management but nothing to do with United. Hughes is patchy as a manager and has been less than complimentary of us in the recent past so I'd have been less keen on him.

For what it's worth I think Ole was a great appointment as he has the passion in spades, is a younger more up and coming manager who cannot yet be pigeonholed as a midtable/lower league journeyman and is clearly interested in playing positive attacking football.

This is it right there. After Moyes, the board won't make that mistake again.
 
Lasy words, which i told my friend, you are man lookin for a lady to marry, you are from a toxic relationship (Mourinho) who made you sad, never appreciative, never grateful, always complaining, picking fights, saying you haven't spent much money on her,
now you get a lady who knows you inside out, probably since childhood, makes you smile just when she opens her mouth, her words are your melodic love tones, appreciate you, takes you as you are no complain, young can give you 20+ years importantly behaves the way you want What Else Do You What? What? What
She is a keeper and I love her but still she must produce.

I think I have seen enough. I would give him a 3 year deal now. But luckily we have the time, so let's wait until the end of the season.
 
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Yes I agree we needed the feelgood factor back at the club and the change has been remarkable though it wasn’t exactly rocket science achieving it. Hughes may have a face like a slapped arse but it certainly wouldn’t be in charge of United!:)

I’m just playing devil’s advocate suggesting alternative caretakers that meet the ex United legend criteria that could have achieved the same effect but with substantially more experience to handle the inevitable rough patches.
Ole has managed European games with Molde, Hughes and Bruce have not AFAIK. They have extra experience of managing loss I suppose
 
What do you mean by this out of interest? That all footballers have the same metabolism?

You only have to look at ex footballers to see there's a massive range. From those who look like they never stopped. Like giggs. To those who are huge like ruddock.
But then both are totally different frames.

It's been observed that people who, in their youth, had an strenuous lifestyle ( marines, special forces, high level athlete ) and subsequently low bodyfat would store fat and maximize nutrient absorption since low adipose levels are not exactly propitious to survival. When they retire, coincidentally around the time when their metabolism naturally slows down as well, their activity levels drop radically but not their body's ability to process the nutrients and store them. Therefore, it becomes easier for them to put on weight post-retirement.

That's a theory, another one is simply that having spent 20-25 years going through rigid diets, they just want to enjoy all that money and forget about maintaining their physiques and enjoy life.
 
It's been observed that people who, in their youth, had an strenuous lifestyle ( marines, special forces, high level athlete ) and subsequently low bodyfat would store fat and maximize nutrient absorption since low adipose levels are not exactly propitious to survival. When they retire, coincidentally around the time when their metabolism naturally slows down as well, their activity levels drop radically but not their body's ability to process the nutrients and store them. Therefore, it becomes easier for them to put on weight post-retirement.

That's a theory, another one is simply that having spent 20-25 years going through rigid diets, they just want to enjoy all that money and forget about maintaining their physiques and enjoy life.

Well yes, doing loads, to doing nothing will see your weight go up a bit!
But there's plenty of footballers who have long since quit, still don't do loads, and don't put loads of weight on.

Sheringham is one of the best examples. Still looks good now.
 
Yes and we got a serial winnner with Mourinho and look how that turned out! :(

I reckon with a big budget and top quality players Hughes and Bruce with all their experience and love of United to boot are not ridiculous options.

They're terrible options. Give your head a shake.

Hughes already had that at City. He was shite.
 
It's pissing me off that certain posters here and the media are treating Ole as some kind of new manager. He's managed more than 250 matches and has been a manager for 10 years.
 
It is, but its also a bit naive, but I'm sure we won't have that approach against the big teams. We should just be going out and doing our thing against the teams we're expected to beat, and it's pathetic how we didn't do that the last two and a half years.