Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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It's not negative to want the club to do the right thing, and make the right appointment. If you think we should be giving Solskjaer the job for the long term, based on just three games, that's nonsense. If that's joyless, then fine.

Suggest you enjoy the post-Mourinho period and stop throwing playground labels at people who don't share your point of view.

I think it was the way the other poster posted a whole montage of your negative posts that did it.
The irony of you telling someone to enjoy it! I'm loving it pal, I can assure you, and i'm not on the internet moaning, oh it's only Cardiff, it's only 1 game, it's only 2 games, it's only 3 games.

He's exceeded all expectations so far. Long may It continue.
 
Give credit where it's due. If anyone thinks that these three games have been down to "playing for the manager" alone, then it's the absolute height of ignorance and naivety.

Two full-backs holding a high field position isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Pogba finding himself higher up the field isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Three attackers interchanging isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
A higher overall field position for ten outfield players, again, isn't happening for the above reason.
Nor is the increased pressing, amount of key-pass attempts, shots from range, etc.

Ole isn't morale-ing performances out of these players as a unit. There's some very deliberate and obvious tactical instructions involved in the last three games; non of which, are down to an increase in overall happiness alone.

Ole knows what he's doing. Everything from the high line, to the high press, to the high full-backs, to the interchanging 3, to the elevated Pogba field position between lines. All these things can be verified by his learning and work involved at Molde. All of these tactical similarities can be traced to his Molde team. There's a definitive attacking approach.
 
Give credit where it's due. If anyone thinks that these three games have been down to "playing for the manager" alone, then it's the absolute height of ignorance and naivety.

Two full-backs holding a high field position isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Pogba finding himself higher up the field isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Three attackers interchanging isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
A higher overall field position for ten outfield players, again, isn't happening for the above reason.
Nor is the increased pressing, amount of key-pass attempts, shots from range, etc.

Ole isn't morale-ing performances out of these players as a unit. There's some very deliberate and obvious tactical instructions involved in the last three games; non of which, are down to an increase in overall happiness alone.

Ole knows what he's doing. Everything from the high line, to the high press, to the high full-backs, to the interchanging 3, to the elevated Pogba field position between lines. All these things can be verified by his learning and work involved at Molde. All of these tactical similarities can be traced to his Molde team. There's a definitive attacking approach.
Wasting your time mate, you're either preaching to the converted or the "We haven't played anyone yet" bunch. Oh, and there's also the Poch is our lord and saviour minority as well.

They'll all come around eventually.
 
Wasting your time mate, you're either preaching to the converted or the "We haven't played anyone yet" bunch. Oh, and there's also the Poch is our lord and saviour minority as well.

They'll all come around eventually.

You mean the same Poch who will divide the three loaves and feed the 75,000? Ah, yes.

Vamos!
 
Give credit where it's due. If anyone thinks that these three games have been down to "playing for the manager" alone, then it's the absolute height of ignorance and naivety.

Two full-backs holding a high field position isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Pogba finding himself higher up the field isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Three attackers interchanging isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
A higher overall field position for ten outfield players, again, isn't happening for the above reason.
Nor is the increased pressing, amount of key-pass attempts, shots from range, etc.

Ole isn't morale-ing performances out of these players as a unit. There's some very deliberate and obvious tactical instructions involved in the last three games; non of which, are down to an increase in overall happiness alone.

Ole knows what he's doing. Everything from the high line, to the high press, to the high full-backs, to the interchanging 3, to the elevated Pogba field position between lines. All these things can be verified by his learning and work involved at Molde. All of these tactical similarities can be traced to his Molde team. There's a definitive attacking approach.
Great post. I wanted to write a post like this, but couldn’t be bothered. I do wonder if the points you’ve made has been lost on a lot of people speaking nonsense. «It’s only...» also doesn’t work, because it was only WH, Wolves, Brighton, Derby and CP under José, and we sure as heck didn’t produce anything close to these last three.
 
I dared to vote no too as personally I think any attack minded manager could get the same results as Solskjær. Ok so he “gets” the club but as for ex United players with managerial experience I could pick at least 2 who in my opinion could be just as much if not more effective. Steve Bruce has over 800 games experience as a manager and Mark Hughes is not for behind on over 600 games. Ok neither have been exactly successful in winning trophies but are battle hardened and give them quality players and a big budget and who knows what they could achieve? Bruce certainly knows how to set a defence up and as an ex United captain is a great leader whilst Hughes scored 163 goals for us and is as much as legend as Solskjær.

Don’t get me wrong I’m loving our free scoring attacking play at the moment but we are still leaking goals and until we play Spurs away I’m still not convinced we are fully back to our best.
Not sure about these two. Hughes has certainly had some very good spells in management, but his recent career has been pretty poor. Also he’s turned very bitter against United since he left.

I love Steve Bruce, but the football his sides play is agricultural to say the least. Villa fans couldn’t wait to see the back of him.
 
Give credit where it's due. If anyone thinks that these three games have been down to "playing for the manager" alone, then it's the absolute height of ignorance and naivety.

Two full-backs holding a high field position isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Pogba finding himself higher up the field isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Three attackers interchanging isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
A higher overall field position for ten outfield players, again, isn't happening for the above reason.
Nor is the increased pressing, amount of key-pass attempts, shots from range, etc.

Ole isn't morale-ing performances out of these players as a unit. There's some very deliberate and obvious tactical instructions involved in the last three games; non of which, are down to an increase in overall happiness alone.

Ole knows what he's doing. Everything from the high line, to the high press, to the high full-backs, to the interchanging 3, to the elevated Pogba field position between lines. All these things can be verified by his learning and work involved at Molde. All of these tactical similarities can be traced to his Molde team. There's a definitive attacking approach.

Great post. While Ole has been saying in pressers that he’s “not changed much” and that the system is similar to before, it’s clearly not. The interchanging of positions across players is something we didn’t see even once under Jose. You genuinely can’t say that Martial is left or Jesse right. Indeed, at times it’s hard to even know if Pogba is left of a 4-3-3 or the #10 in a 4-2-3-1. They’re fluid and each pops up in places where they wreak maximum havoc regardless of the “starting position”.

Matic (the supposed Jose sergeant) and Herrera are dovetailing well too. It’s amazing to see one or the other move forward in turns while the other shields or makes a late drive. Nobody should be saying that Matic’s uptick is on account of Jose being gone!

Long may it last. I’m not saying (yet) that Ole’s the second coming or anything but I’m very impressed and certain that come what may, post June he’ll be at a far bigger club than Molde - and I can’t help but admit that I really hope it’s us.

PS: Yes, I’m placing a large slice at brilliant odds on us dumping PSG out of the CL...
 
Not sure about these two. Hughes has certainly had some very good spells in management, but his recent career has been pretty poor. Also he’s turned very bitter against United since he left.

I love Steve Bruce, but the football his sides play is agricultural to say the least. Villa fans couldn’t wait to see the back of him.

You mean that wasn’t a WUM post? Blimey!
 
Anyone else find it a bit strange how Gary Neville hasn't commented on the squad once ever since we had our first match against Ole?

He was so vocal and outspoken when there was a negative cloud hovering over the club and now the cat seems to have bitten his tongue right as things have become much more positive...

I wonder how he feels about the same players he had a go at flourishing under new management

Everyone at the club was thrown under the bus by him in defense of Jose,you would expect him to have strong opinions regarding Ole's record start
 
Anyone else find it a bit strange how Gary Neville hasn't commented on the squad once ever since we had our first match against Ole?

He was so vocal and outspoken when there was a negative cloud hovering over the club and now the cat seems to have bitten his tongue right as things have become much more positive...

I wonder how he feels about the same players he had a go at flourishing under new management

Everyone at the club was thrown under the bus by him in defense of Jose,you would expect him to have strong opinions regarding Ole's record start
He loves the club and I think isn't stupid enough to dig in right now. They've all been silent since Ole took over.

It's possible they got a message from The Boss.
 
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What we are seeing from Solskjaer, cements for me the reason why Ryan Giggs should never be our Manager.

Ole is dynamic, charismatic, articulate and positive. It’s essential that a United manager has those attributes and Giggs was always lacking in those departments.
 
What we are seeing from Solskjaer, cements for me the reason why Ryan Giggs should never be our Manager.

Ole is dynamic, charismatic, articulate and positive. It’s essential that a United manager has those attributes and Giggs was always lacking in those departments.

Actually a requirement for any managerial position anywhere.
 
What we are seeing from Solskjaer, cements for me the reason why Ryan Giggs should never be our Manager.

Ole is dynamic, charismatic, articulate and positive. It’s essential that a United manager has those attributes and Giggs was always lacking in those departments.

True. Giggs has the charisma of a small onion.
 
Anyone else find it a bit strange how Gary Neville hasn't commented on the squad once ever since we had our first match against Ole?

He was so vocal and outspoken when there was a negative cloud hovering over the club and now the cat seems to have bitten his tongue right as things have become much more positive...

I wonder how he feels about the same players he had a go at flourishing under new management

Everyone at the club was thrown under the bus by him in defense of Jose,you would expect him to have strong opinions regarding Ole's record start

You're surprised Neville isn't criticising the squad after 3 impressive wins in the bounce? Neville is a fan at the end of the day. He's happy if the team is doing well.
 
A big IF but if we some how finish in the top 4 in May, would majority on here be in favour of giving Ole the job ?
I wouldn't say I would be in favour of it, but I wouldn't be adverse to it as long as we also bring in a good DoF. That role is important no matter who we bring in, but I feel it would be even more important with Ole who hasn't had any experience whatsoever in terms of scouting and signing players at the top level. Indeed the closest he came was at Cardiff where from what I've read his signings were poor.
 
Anyone else find it a bit strange how Gary Neville hasn't commented on the squad once ever since we had our first match against Ole?
Apparently he’s doing the Newcastle game, so he should have a great opportunity then to gain attention for himself speaking about the club.
 
Give credit where it's due. If anyone thinks that these three games have been down to "playing for the manager" alone, then it's the absolute height of ignorance and naivety.

Two full-backs holding a high field position isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Pogba finding himself higher up the field isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
Three attackers interchanging isn't happening due to an increase in morale.
A higher overall field position for ten outfield players, again, isn't happening for the above reason.
Nor is the increased pressing, amount of key-pass attempts, shots from range, etc.

Ole isn't morale-ing performances out of these players as a unit. There's some very deliberate and obvious tactical instructions involved in the last three games; non of which, are down to an increase in overall happiness alone.

Ole knows what he's doing. Everything from the high line, to the high press, to the high full-backs, to the interchanging 3, to the elevated Pogba field position between lines. All these things can be verified by his learning and work involved at Molde. All of these tactical similarities can be traced to his Molde team. There's a definitive attacking approach.

Thanks. Good post. Sure the new manager effect is there, but Solskjaer quite clearly changed the way we approach the games and how we are set up. He has also identified the weaknesses of the team and acknowledged the areas we need to work on. He quite clearly knows what he is doing
 
Really impressed with how Ole conducts himself in the press conferences. Very relaxed, smiling and says the right thing. Doesnt rise to any baited questions but you can see he has an edge in reserve if they get too cheeky. So far very impressed all round with him.
He has in some respects had an easy start to his caretakership with a run of 3 games against teams we should beat easily but we won all convincingly.
Be intested to see how we set up and compete gainst a top team. Time will tell. So far so good.
 
I wouldn't say I would be in favour of it, but I wouldn't be adverse to it as long as we also bring in a good DoF. That role is important no matter who we bring in, but I feel it would be even more important with Ole who hasn't had any experience whatsoever in terms of scouting and signing players at the top level. Indeed the closest he came was at Cardiff where from what I've read his signings were poor.
You'd still prefer to take another punt on a new manager if Ole manages to get us top 4, after he's brought back the Utd traditions we were used to under Fergie, those that the players seem to be relishing? Are you not worried that it would be a too big of a gamble to quickly dismantle our first management team in 5 years that has looked remotely capable of producing the football we want to see?
 
You'd still prefer to take another punt on a new manager if Ole manages to get us top 4, after he's brought back the Utd traditions we were used to under Fergie, those that the players seem to be relishing? Are you not worried that it would be a too big of a gamble to quickly dismantle our first management team in 5 years that has looked remotely capable of producing the football we want to see?
There's so many intangibles that it's hard to give a definitive answer right now. At the moment all we know is that he's got us playing well against three fairly poor teams, the players are enjoying themselves right now while things are going well, and his media conferences are great when things are going well.

Now if we get top four obviously things continue to go well, but over that period of time we may have seen some more serious issues. There will obviously be harder tests, players may start to struggle with aspects of his management, or there may be signs that he's starting to struggle with the pressure.

It's just too early for me to say I'd want him to get the job. As we get closer to the end of the season I may change my mind in that, but for now I'd still prefer a more established manager. In an absolutely perfect world I'd like to continue with Ole though.
 
We need people like Ole in the club who understands the culture of the club.

Would be a loss if we lost him in the summer.
 
Thing what kills me is that we cant judge him properly on rebound period after prev. manager.
 
Thing what kills me is that we cant judge him properly on rebound period after prev. manager.
We can judge. We just need to consider context. Tbh I want him to stay on, as it stands. Hopefully all goes well between now and crunch time as that could change.
 
Everything crossed for him to carry this on and get the gig full time. My enjoyment for the game is back.
 
Finishing in Top 4 = Slight to decent chance of happening
Champions League win = Minuscule to slight chance of happening

One of those two and I'm sure he'll get the gig full-time with a non-risky contract length of, say, 2 years.

Anything short of that and I'm guessing we'll be going all in for Pochetino in the summer.