I'm afraid you are over hyping him now. It's way too early to compare him to the best managers around.
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I'm afraid you are over hyping him now. It's way too early to compare him to the best managers around.
I'm not and I didn't, I'm simply saying most would fail at Cardiff because they're sole purpose is survival. You want someone like Big Sam in there who will make them hard to beat and win the odd game 1-0 from a set piece. Not a manager like Solskjaer.
You can't possibly know that Klopp would fail at Cardiff. I think he would not. He proved himself at Mainz who weren't any better than Cardiff at the time of his appointment. If anything, they were worse.
The best manager has been sacked by us. Unbelievable board. Now please back Solksjaer and hopefully he does a great job and get it full time. A United legend, managing a legendary club.
He got them relegated didn't he? Also don't forget that the Liverpool he inherited was basically already set up to attack by brendan rodgers. The framework was already in place. Asking him to step into a new country to try and save a club at the bottom with no resources is a big ask.
Cracking reference.
I only heard Ole said gonna play ‘attacking football’ .
Klopp got them promoted for the first time in their history.
Ole's task was difficult. He wasn't fired after Cardiff went down but after a bad start to the season in the Championship.
All I can say is that I'm excited again, not because I believe he will do miracles or that we'll suddenly play flawless attacking football but atleast we'll have the intent to do so and I got a feeling some players will show heart again. Exciting times and good luck Ole.
It's a completely different environment, with a less mental owner at the time who changed the club's kit colour from blue to red because he preferred red. Solskjaer had no where near the setup Klopp had at Mainz, in a less competitive league.
Crazy to think he's now 45 still looks really good for his age. I think he will do well.
still looks really good for his age. I think he will do well.Crazy to think he's now 45
45 is fairly young.
45 is fairly young.
It is for a manager I know. But time flys and it seems only yesterday he was smashing goals in, left, right and centre. I went to his testimonial ten years ago and that doesn't even feel that long ago!
It was about the "still looks really good for his age", that's not something that you are supposed to say for a 45 years old person.
It's really up to the players to prove their worth over the course of the season now. There are no more excuses for anybody.
It was about the "still looks really good for his age", that's not something that you are supposed to say for a 45 years old person.
Not made to be of offence. Purely meant he doesn't look 45.
I’m not embarrassed to admit, I have been absolutely buzzing about United this week. Solskjaer has got me smiling about football again. It’s been ages since I have been this excited about an upcoming game. It might not work out but it might. Let’s just enjoy the ride.
Can anyone explain to me how he plays usually? Is it attacking ? Possession of counter attacks ? Thanks!
From what I hear, he plays very attacking football, almost to the sacrifice of defence.
Crazy to think he's now 45
Mentioned this in another thread, Sir Alex was 45 when he took over from Atkinson.
At this point, all I want is some good attacking football, season is pretty much gone anyway.
Looking forward to this!
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After listening to his press conference, and knowing his Manchester United history, I’m really excited for the rest of the season.
I think his man management will be great.
I think the experience he had at Cardiff is actually a positive. Learning from mistakes, building hunger to succeed. A lot of that situation was out of his hands and it was a poor squad.
I’m sure we all want him to do well and it will be great to have some positivity for a change!
I think his man management will be great.
I think the experience he had at Cardiff is actually a positive. Learning from mistakes, building hunger to succeed. A lot of that situation was out of his hands and it was a poor squad.
I’m sure we all want him to do well and it will be great to have some positivity for a change!
It's bizarre to see Solksjaer's managerial experience being completely dismissed because of the perception of the Norwegian league, when the exploits of managers even today in Scotland is used to judge their suitability to manage in England. Just look at how Rodgers is viewed as rehabilitating himself with Celtic, or Gerrard is being seen as a natural returner to the Premier League before long. The strength of the Scottish and Norwegian leagues based on UEFA coefficients is negligible. Classic gammon island mentality.
Given Rosenborg's domination of the league in the last 30 years, Molde winning the league for the first time was not quite Aberdeen overcoming Celtic and Rangers, given Rosenborg had also slipped up a few seasons prior, but it was still a remarkable achievement.
The guy is a seasoned, proven manager at this point. He's not a fecking cult figure or cult legend returning like Cantona would be or Giggs was.
Given Rosenborg's domination of the league in the last 30 years, Molde winning the league for the first time was not quite Aberdeen overcoming Celtic and Rangers, given Rosenborg had also slipped up a few seasons prior, but it was still a remarkable achievement.
The guy is a seasoned, proven manager at this point. He's not a fecking cult figure or cult legend returning like Cantona would be or Giggs was.
That's a ridiculous comparison, Rodgers had a successful spell at Swansea and he wasn't that bad at Liverpool just not good enough for a potential top PL team. His career at Celtic isn't the base of people's opinion about him.
Rodgers came within a Gerrard slip of winning the PL. people seem to forget that
If he wasn't linked to Liverpool, people would have a totally different view of him. I don't think that he is great but he has shown that he is an above average PL manager.
Agreed. His front 3 at Liverpool was on par with Klopps front three
No, but going off to Scotland isn't seen as disappearing into Europe's backwaters, when based on the strength of the league Scotland is utter mediocrity nowadays. The whole narrative about him managing Celtic is he's biding his time before he returns to a top PL job. People will be wanking themselves silly about whatever Gerrard does or doesn't do with Rangers, when he gets an inevitable offer to come back to England. It will be perceived as valuable experience, even if he wins feck all or just a cup. If he did the equivalent in any similar strength league in Europe, people would dismiss it instantly.
Winning the league with Molde in Norway is a far greater achievement than winning several Scottish PL titles with Celtic.
What if Fergie is actually the manager and Ole is only carrying out his instructions?
He's an attack minded manager. A lot of people have been suggesting this season that we look best when we attack to hide our defensive deficiencies and I tend to agree. Sitting back doesn't work for us so we may as well be proactive.
Yeah, that happened around the time you were coming through, actually.
"He can't organise a defence"
Yeah that's really what gets my blood flowing.
Fcuk sake, I'm so sick of that shite. It has a place in the game no doubt but for Manchester United, I don't want us to focus on 'stopping' anyone.
Case in point. I remember the 2006-07 season more fondly than either 2007-08 or 2008-09 despite it being accepted we were more successful in those seasons. Why? Because we were more fun to watch going forward. It's what we watch the game for. At least it's why I watch the game. To see goals.
Yeah that's really what gets my blood flowing.
Fcuk sake, I'm so sick of that shite. It has a place in the game no doubt but for Manchester United, I don't want us to focus on 'stopping' anyone.
Case in point. I remember the 2006-07 season more fondly than either 2007-08 or 2008-09 despite it being accepted we were more successful in those seasons. Why? Because we were more fun to watch going forward. It's what we watch the game for. At least it's why I watch the game. To see goals.
We have nothing to lose by bringing in Ole. He can start from scratch and play players in their preferred positions. Hopefully the players will see sense now Mourinho has gone. He may not have the experience but so what we can’t possibly do any worse than we are now.
ah that's it, thanks. got myself mixed up there.
This.
That period when we got Di Maria and Falcao was a strange one. Didn't feel like the United I grew up with. I was willing to move on from the old United if it meant we had successes mind, but that also never transpired.
Seeing Ole's interviews and hearing the things he said, about us being a family club, and the expectations and about playing attacking football, now that feels familiar.
Ole turned up at the staff Xmas party with Wood wood:
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-party-woodward-solskjaer-15582567
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-party-woodward-solskjaer-15582567
I don't know if others feel this way and I know it sounds as cheesy as hell, but I feel like the entire Mourinho sacking and the subsequent hiring of Ole, has ignited feelings in me regarding the club that seemed to be in limbo. I haven't a clue whether Ole is going to great or terrible, but it just feels nice to look forward to our next (particularly the 3 at home) game with some sort of hope of possibly, maybe, pretty please make it happen, being entertained. I know things aren't going to change drastically results wise albiet we will get better. But could be possibly watch a United team that starts playing exciting stuff ? Or presses aggressively? Or sets up with a high line? Maybe not, but the idea that these things could happen do feel great.
Plus the focus on getting the players United and playing on the front foot. I mean, fecking hell, that's exactly what we want. If we don't get top 4 so be it. We wouldn't have under Mourinho either. But if we can start putting together proper proper football even if it's with flaws, I'll fecking take it.
Plus the focus on getting the players United and playing on the front foot. I mean, fecking hell, that's exactly what we want. If we don't get top 4 so be it. We wouldn't have under Mourinho either. But if we can start putting together proper proper football even if it's with flaws, I'll fecking take it.