Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?

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I can see how all those words are positive, but sadly I'm a numb skeptic when it comes to United. There have been too many false dawns where we let ourselves get carried away.

Mata in his chopper, LVG's charismatic pressers, signing 'El Tigre' and Di Maria, all that hype about Memphis, our run of good games featuring Juanfield, that Schmeidfield summer, hype around Jose, the transfer saga of Pogba, signing Zlatan, their post match interview entertainment, the EL, getting Sanchez with that piano reveal ...

It's gonna be a couple of acceptable seasons and some really good runs of football games before I let myself be excited by little off field things like pressers and gestures.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Our attack is our best asset - and Ole's here for 6 months.

Attack should be his priority.

You get Martial, Pogba, Sanchez, Rashford, Lingard, Mata, Rom in some kind of rhythm and form and you've got a team that will cause any opposition in Europe problems.
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Agreed - teams should be set up to play to their strengths not hide their weaknesses and in our case attack is the best form of defence.

Too often under Jose we’ve seen the team sit back and invite endless pressure, often against the best attacking teams in the league, and just get sliced through time after time or eventually crumble.

There is also the issue of confidence - Jose has spent all this season saying our defence are basically shite and the weak link in our team and (surprise surprise) they’ve been shite.

They were so much better last year and I’m not buying into this idea that it was purely down to us playing more compact/defensively as a whole as this implies we’ve been expansive and attacking this year which is largely nonsense and just Jose being his usual disingenuous self.
 
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Gandalf Greyhame said:
I can see how all those words are positive, but sadly I'm a numb skeptic when it comes to United. There have been too many false dawns where we let ourselves get carried away.

Mata in his chopper, LVG's charismatic pressers, signing 'El Tigre' and Di Maria, all that hype about Memphis, our run of good games featuring Juanfield, that Schmeidfield summer, hype around Jose, the transfer saga of Pogba, signing Zlatan, their post match interview entertainment, the EL, getting Sanchez with that piano reveal ...

It's gonna be a couple of acceptable seasons and some really good runs of football games before I let myself be excited by little off field things like pressers and gestures.
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Football, just like life, is full of ups and downs. Even if we get Poch and the best DoF available in the summer and the club start making good decisions, it still doesn't mean our improvement will be like a straight line upwards. There will be bumps along the road, so you must take the good when you can get it, and all of those things you listed were enjoyable, and if you cant get excited by that or a resounding victory on the field because you're worried it might not last, then you'll never enjoy football again.
 
Gandalf Greyhame said:
I can see how all those words are positive, but sadly I'm a numb skeptic when it comes to United. There have been too many false dawns where we let ourselves get carried away.

Mata in his chopper, LVG's charismatic pressers, signing 'El Tigre' and Di Maria, all that hype about Memphis, our run of good games featuring Juanfield, that Schmeidfield summer, hype around Jose, the transfer saga of Pogba, signing Zlatan, their post match interview entertainment, the EL, getting Sanchez with that piano reveal ...

It's gonna be a couple of acceptable seasons and some really good runs of football games before I let myself be excited by little off field things like pressers and gestures.
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In a lot of the cases above you’ve just described us signing a series of mercenaries. This situation is nothing like those.

We’ve just hired one of our biggest ever legends to manage us in a season when we have pretty much nothing to lose.

Myself and many others are not excited because we think he’s gonna sort out all our problems but rather cos we fecking adore Ole and know he loves and understands the club’s ethos and is going to work his bollocks off to reinvigorate the club and get us playing attacking football again.

Just enjoy the ride.
 
Josh 76 said:
Now the dust has settled a little and the nightmare is finally over. I'm getting a little concerned about Ole's interviews about how he's going to attack attack attack. Now before everyone bites my head off, I am over the moon with what's happened, but let's not forget our defence is crap. Our DM is crap. It's okay saying the hand break will be off, but there is still a job to do at this Club.....
.winning football matches! Hopefully I'm over analysing all of this and we win our next 4 games 4-0!
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I dont think the defence or DM is as crap as made out. They were under constant pressure due to our tactics and negative way of playing.

Hopefully by having the ball more it relieves the work load of the defence a bit.
 
Personally I'm very excited for tomorrow's game, but in the same time I'm terrified.

I want to see Chong, Greenwood and Gomes in the first team, Give them chance Ole.
 
I had some doubts about Ole and his lack of experience but that interview and his mindset is a huge plus. He already has the fans on his side, the players will be given a boost and will want to make a point.

At this stage of the season, going into games with a positive mindset and belief is huge plus.
 
Kostov said:
Personally I'm very excited for tomorrow's game, but in the same time I'm terrified.

I want to see Chong, Greenwood and Gomes in the first team, Give them chance Ole.
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Bit early to throw a load of kids in the mix. I'm all for it but lets at least get some sort of team cohesion going first before we have the luxury of integrating youth players into the setup. A good convincing win tomorrow and a brace for Martial or Rahsford will really get people excited, let's go with that instead.
 
One thing he said was everyone will get a chance. I wish that weren't true. This is an opportunity to prepare for the next season. Some guys have proven not to be Man Utd players. I hope we offload as many as possible in January.
 
Adisa said:
I wish Stewart Gardner asked him some tactical questions ffs.
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Wouldn't worry about that. It seems as though he has a set way of playing and a set formation, one of the Molde fans on here went into some in depth analysis about how we would most likely look. I'm a bit concerned about us being one dimensional under Solskjaer but that's my biggest and only concern, but then again, it works for Pep and Klopp who just demand more instead of swapping and changing systems wholesale.
 
Adisa said:
One thing he said was everyone will get a chance. I wish that weren't true. This is an opportunity to prepare for the next season. Some guys have proven not to be Man Utd players. I hope we offload as many as possible in January.
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I think by that he was emphasising the 'Clean slate' aspect, not so much that the tea lady will get a run out at some point. Also think he was implying that youth players will also get chance to prove they're good enough to play for United.
 
Adisa said:
One thing he said was everyone will get a chance. I wish that weren't true. This is an opportunity to prepare for the next season. Some guys have proven not to be Man Utd players. I hope we offload as many as possible in January.
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Agree. If it means they can assess what players are like without a mope as manager, then use that information to offload for the new manager in summer, then so be it, but there's a good chance the new one will want to give everyone a chance too.

It's the right thing to say though. He knows he needs to get everyone up for it and if they think their necks are on the line it won't happen.
 
After 2 very defensive managers, Ole will be a breath of fresh air. Attack attack attack!
 
Just read that his wife and kids are joining him in the Lowrey.

He's just sent a message that's he feels more at home here after 2 days that that miserable Cnut did in 2 and a half years.

Everything just feels better for all of us now.


Happy days.
 
Gandalf Greyhame said:
I can see how all those words are positive, but sadly I'm a numb skeptic when it comes to United. There have been too many false dawns where we let ourselves get carried away.

Mata in his chopper, LVG's charismatic pressers, signing 'El Tigre' and Di Maria, all that hype about Memphis, our run of good games featuring Juanfield, that Schmeidfield summer, hype around Jose, the transfer saga of Pogba, signing Zlatan, their post match interview entertainment, the EL, getting Sanchez with that piano reveal ...

It's gonna be a couple of acceptable seasons and some really good runs of football games before I let myself be excited by little off field things like pressers and gestures.
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How depressing. Life's too short not to enjoy the good moments because you're worried they won't last.
 
crossy1686 said:
Wouldn't worry about that. It seems as though he has a set way of playing and a set formation, one of the Molde fans on here went into some in depth analysis about how we would most likely look. I'm a bit concerned about us being one dimensional under Solskjaer but that's my biggest and only concern, but then again, it works for Pep and Klopp who just demand more instead of swapping and changing systems wholesale.
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We need to get very good at doing one thing before we try and become a jack of all trades. He should forget about a plan b and get us playing one particular way.
The briefings that have come out suggest the way Ole Gunnar Solskjaer likes to play was an important factor in making him interim. Also suggests to me the permanent choice won't be too dissimilar in style. He has to focus on implementing his style of anything.
 
Adisa said:
One thing he said was everyone will get a chance. I wish that weren't true. This is an opportunity to prepare for the next season. Some guys have proven not to be Man Utd players. I hope we offload as many as possible in January.
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Agreed.
Ive said before,some of our players don't deserve a clean slate....they've had three of the feckers in 5yrs.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
Agreed.
Ive said before,some of our players don't deserve a clean slate....they've had three of the feckers in 5yrs.
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Darmian in his fourth season here when it became clear three months into it first he wasn’t up to the mark. Absolute shambles.

Rojo in his fifth without getting a consistent run of 10+ games in a row, Jones despite never being fit for more than two months.

But I think it’s just Ole’s way of lifting the atmosphere and get everyone pulling in the same direction. From his social media, seems like he watches most of our games so would have a pretty clear idea of who is up to standard and who is not already.
 
It’s a great PR move by Ed but I doubt that Ole will offer anything much once the initial euphoria has died down
 
A strange amount of writing off of Solskjaer amongst the general public and surprisingly our own fans at the moment. Do people really not rate his achievements? Or his ability? This is a man who came onto the pitch in the dying minutes of a Champions League final and believed he could still score and win the game. There's some criminal underrating on here in particular.
 
So happy mourinho has gone. And eagerly anticipating what new style and team selections we've got look forward to under ole. I don't expect a drastic improvement in results but am expecting more positive attacking performances atleast. That's the least we can expect and it's what we all want. Personally, I would love to see pogba, mata, martial, and rashford all start games. The confidence in the defence remains a huge problem and we'll likely be beaten by the better teams as a result but seeing a shift in attitude towards better football will be a breath of fresh air.
 
I don't know how anyone can think that interview was mesmerisingly genuine when parts of it are so clearly scripted. Just in case anyone missed it the first time, he's come back home.

Definitely picked the right face for the role but it seems all the more apparent that's the main reason he was picked. Hope Ole's doubts are wrong and the fans continue to love him throughout the season. Throwing a legend under the bus just for a PR boost would be criminal.
 
crossy1686 said:
A strange amount of writing off of Solskjaer amongst the general public and surprisingly our own fans at the moment. Do people really not rate his achievements? Or his ability? This is a man who came onto the pitch in the dying minutes of a Champions League final and believed he could still score and win the game. There's some criminal underrating on here in particular.
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I guess some fans are sceptical about his managing skills, not about his achievements as a player. Two very different things.

As a manager he has done well with Molde but failed with Cardiff. It's normal that people perceive him as a temporary solution but all United fans are hopeful that it might work.
 
Good luck to Ole, kind of wish it was Liverpool and United fighting it out for the title, want the rivalry to have that same sort of high competitive nature as it did many moons ago!
 
crossy1686 said:
A strange amount of writing off of Solskjaer amongst the general public and surprisingly our own fans at the moment. Do people really not rate his achievements? Or his ability? This is a man who came onto the pitch in the dying minutes of a Champions League final and believed he could still score and win the game. There's some criminal underrating on here in particular.
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I think its a worry that he says we only look at a couple of points on the opposition and focus on ourselves. It seems kind of naive and probably why his teams ship so many goals. Guardiola focuses on every phase of the game and works hard on stopping the opposition out of possession. Klopp seems to have learnt that he needs a good defence too in the PL and is reaping the rewards.
 
Any pics or vids from training?
 
What I don't understand is him having an input into transfers. Unless the next manager has already agreed to the player behind closed doors, that makes no sense.

So lets say United throw £50m at a club for a player that Ole fancies. Then Poch comes in for example but he wants someone else.

I think it would make sense that he just steadies the ship with the players he has until a permanent manager is appointed. Signing Messi now wouldn't get United into the top four or win the CL in my opinion.
 
I see many struggle with pronouncing his name, i'll try to help.

There is no k-sound in Solskjær, just say Solsjær.
The æ is pronounced sort of like how they pronounce the a in Batman (in the American movies). But you can just say it with an e-sound, sort of like how you say the e in egg. The way the English say e, is closer to how we say the i in Norwegian, while e in egg is closer to the Noggie pronounciation of e.

Solsjer or solsher, and you'll be fine ;)
 
Treble said:
I guess some fans are sceptical about his managing skills, not about his achievements as a player. Two very different things.

As a manager he has done well with Molde but failed with Cardiff. It's normal that people perceive him as a temporary solution but all United fans are hopeful that it might work.
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He failed with Cardiff but so would Klopp, Pep and many, many others. When you have a set attacking ideology and philosophy, joining a bottom of the league club is a conflict of interests really. If anything his only fault was being too ambitious. I'm confident he will be a success as a manager, he's got all the right attributes.
 
Maxin said:
Any pics or vids from training?
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Rumours are that the club restricted access to the session as they too fear Solskjaer is so unqualified to do the job - look at his only management spell at a real football club! - that they didn't want pictures leaking of him having forgot the cones or not knowing Pogba's special handshake.
 
Grylte said:
I see many struggle with pronouncing his name, i'll try to help.

There is no k-sound in Solskjær, just say Solsjær.
The æ is pronounced sort of like how they pronounce the a in Batman (in the American movies). But you can just say it with an e-sound, sort of like how you say the e in egg. The way the English say e, is closer to how we say the i in Norwegian, while e in egg is closer to the Noggie pronounciation of e.

Solsjer or solsher, and you'll be fine ;)
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I used to like how Barry Davis called him "Sol SHARA!"

Totally wrong, but quite thrilling.
 
beedoubleyou said:
I used to like how Barry Davis called him "Sol SHARA!"

Totally wrong, but quite thrilling.
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:lol:

Yeah, i've heard many English speaking commentators destroy his name, and also the "what to expect from Solskjær" video on last page, he pronounced the k too much, so i figured i could try to help you lot :)

Maybe now i can start saying: This one time, at Caf camp, Grylte was actually useful.
 
Brwned said:
I don't know how anyone can think that interview was mesmerisingly genuine when parts of it are so clearly scripted. Just in case anyone missed it the first time, he's come back home.

Definitely picked the right face for the role but it seems all the more apparent that's the main reason he was picked. Hope Ole's doubts are wrong and the fans continue to love him throughout the season. Throwing a legend under the bus just for a PR boost would be criminal.
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That interview is anything but scripted, and you need to stop being so cynical. Would you prefer him over Jose, with the same results? I know I would! At least the place won't be constantly toxic and we'll be trying to play attacking football.

He was picked because we need a quick fix and he is the best option out there. It gives the club the right amount of time to find the right manager. If we don't get the next one right, the deficit from the top teams may become too big to bridge.

People need to get off their high horse and hope Ole is a huge success over the next 6 months. If he gets the right results, he may move on to much bigger and better things in his managerial career (no disrespect to Molde) - and perhaps, make a strong argument for himself to be at a top club.
 
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