It's reactionary to talk about a single game?
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4
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It's reactionary to talk about a single game?
Yeah this summer is very important in terms of getting the fitness levels up to play a more aggressive game. Definitely a blessing for us that there’s no tournament this summer.
I think that plays a part but the performance against arsenal wasn’t bad and today he got it wrong with his selection. Martial, Lingard and Herrera looked like players who were half fit and they are.
Pogba and Rashford just look shattered which has been the case for sometime.
I’ve always been on the fence about ole. My heart wants him to stay but my head says something else. That said some of the reaction on here is laughable
I agree. Need a response.
All the goodwill with the press and fans is wonderful but if we play like a Jose mark 2 side then there should be a question mark
Every coach learns with experience.
I think the problem with the 2 lossess are that it signifcantly impacts end of season goals. We are out of a winnable tournament and lost a six pointer against a top 4 rival. I agree that it is 2 games but consecutive results such as this prior to an international break affects confidence and we all know how that can snowball.
Ole has done a magnificent job since he has come in and perhaps because of his own success hopes have been raised that the old United are back. This is obviously not the case. If we fail to get top 4 and barcelona kick us out of the champions league then we start next season on the back foot whoever the manager is. Honeymoon is done. Now for real marriage!
Ole has done a magnificent job since he has come in and perhaps because of his own success hopes have been raised that the old United are back. This is obviously not the case. If we fail to get top 4 and barcelona kick us out of the champions league then we start next season on the back foot whoever the manager is. Honeymoon is done. Now for real marriage!
I wouldn't make a decision until the end of the season.
I'm worried that our general performances have been trending down for a while now.
We need a huge summer.
I'm worried that our general performances have been trending down for a while now.
We need a huge summer.
HERETIC
I'm one of the 6.3% but l accept that Ole will probably get the job and we will waste another couple years, while City gets stronger & stronger.
Agreed. Threw them in too willy nilly. No reason why McTominay has lost his place tbh. He was one of MoTM vs PSG and now a ghost.
Pochettino hasn't won many games recently and Ole has actually made up 10pts on him. Poch has also won nothing with this philosophy. He is not the example.
Zidane doesn't need one. Maybe we don't. We didn't have one under SAF. This vision stuff is hipster nonsense. Just play well, play attacking, move into space, work it into the box, take shots
He’s ran our key players into the ground.
We need more options, this team was always going to get knackered when we're having to rely on the same players, or players coming back from injury.
You seem not to fancy him?
Arsenal game was good performance poor result
This was poor performance poor result.
I think it will be interesting to see how he and the team react after these disappointments..
This was poor performance poor result.
I think it will be interesting to see how he and the team react after these disappointments..
Lose the momentum and it can go into reverse. I hope that's not the case with us. I still think Ole will get us over the line into top four.
What key players?
It will be interesting to see how the players respond to these defeats. They apparently want Ole to get the job, let's see them give everything to ensure he gets it.
The main worry at this point isn’t so much the results but the dip in performances. The football has declined significantly in the last month or so and we’ve had a few players going back to their Mourinho form where there’s lots of walking around the pitch and laziness off the ball. If we get back into those habits we’re doomed regardless of who’s in charge.
As for today, Ole didn’t change it quick enough and Fred should have come on earlier to inject some energy, it was way too ponderous. Also not having any attacker on the bench. There’s also been little things like playing Pogba off the left that haven’t worked at all.
As for today, Ole didn’t change it quick enough and Fred should have come on earlier to inject some energy, it was way too ponderous. Also not having any attacker on the bench. There’s also been little things like playing Pogba off the left that haven’t worked at all.
When our best players all play on the same side of the field, Pogba, Shaw and Martial, it's imperative that we put some threat on the right. Lingard tucks in and does very little, making the Wolves defence able to focus solely on one half of the pitch.
We are so easy to defend against, unbelievable that Ole has continued with just abandoning the right wing. Chong or just someone who can stay out there could at least stretch the defence.
We are so easy to defend against, unbelievable that Ole has continued with just abandoning the right wing. Chong or just someone who can stay out there could at least stretch the defence.
It’s a frustrating period but it’s also been an incredibly difficult one. Three back to back away games against tough opposition in three different competitions with an injury crisis (not so much an excuse today).
Wolves were fully committed today in a way which our players were unable to be. Fergie had moments like this and his teams always came back more determined. Now we see if Ole can get a reaction like Fergie or quickly lose the dressing room like the previous three managers.
Wolves were fully committed today in a way which our players were unable to be. Fergie had moments like this and his teams always came back more determined. Now we see if Ole can get a reaction like Fergie or quickly lose the dressing room like the previous three managers.
But what the feck did Dalot do exactly?
Peope say that we don't need Wan Bissaka but he put in a better shift in defeat than Dalot did.
Rashford, matic, lindelof, smalling, pogba....
It's almost like he inherited a squad with absolutely appalling quality beyond those key players and has had to deal with an injury crisis.
No, wait, it's exactly like that.
It's not Ole. It's these fecking soft skinned babies we have out there. Our response to going down a goal continues to be losing focus even more, feeling bad for themselves and conceding a second before a sense of pride and desire returns.
Palace. Newcastle. City. Burnley PSG. Arsenal Wolves. Just the last couple seasons it's a real piss poor reaction. All mental. Doesn't happen if we score first from what I recall. One of the hallmarks of that string of wins when ole first started
Palace. Newcastle. City. Burnley PSG. Arsenal Wolves. Just the last couple seasons it's a real piss poor reaction. All mental. Doesn't happen if we score first from what I recall. One of the hallmarks of that string of wins when ole first started
1) Yes we can. He is the manager. If Jose and Lvg were blamed for shit like this, if Ole is glorified for wins against Arsenal Chelsea, Psg...then we can say that some defeats are on him. Arsenal game wasn't but this just is.
2) We will not have rebuilding. We signed new contracts with most of our players who are not good enough so this is next year's squad plus 2 or 3 new players
Will be interesting on how Ole gets the team to respond after international break.
I'll give you today, as several players looked shite, but Arsenal? As a whole, we played well against them, but our finishing let us down, which was made worse by De Gea dropping a clanger.
He shouldn't have thrown in a load of players coming back from injury like that. He had players with momentum and dumped them back on the bench. The ones coming back from injury should have been on the bench.
You seem not to fancy him?
He couldn't wait for ManUtd to lose the game, so that he can post "now it's safe time to criticize Ole" I'm not even joking.
Maybe I said that wrong, but I'm not sure Ole is the right man for the job. Who knows though. We will see soon enough I guess.
You know some of them were injured, right?
And Man Utd is a place where managers should learn and get experience?
No it doesn’t help that 90% of our players, either only play when they feel like they’re loved and wanted or are simply not good enough to be at the club. That is the problem.
There is still a lack of quality in our first XI which can only be addressed in the summer. He's doing the best with what he's got but there was an over reaction to his initial impact on individual players.
As bad as they were on the pitch, thought we were set up very poorly all night.
And unlike Arsenal when we changed tactically every 7 minutes, we didn't even try to respond to the obvious advantage Wolves had with their wing backs being allowed freedom.
I think this loss out of all the losses feels like a proper loss. He can't make them click once the referee blows, but I just never felt confident once I saw the line up. Wolves have done the big teams all season long, and we should have set up to mitigate their obvious strengths.
And unlike Arsenal when we changed tactically every 7 minutes, we didn't even try to respond to the obvious advantage Wolves had with their wing backs being allowed freedom.
I think this loss out of all the losses feels like a proper loss. He can't make them click once the referee blows, but I just never felt confident once I saw the line up. Wolves have done the big teams all season long, and we should have set up to mitigate their obvious strengths.
It was a good performance at Arsenal, so why change the team so much. Lukaku and Young were the only ones that needed changing.
Why did they start in an FA cup game then? Utter shambles of management
Agree with that but when you have pogba and rashford play as bad as they did tonight you are on a hiding to nothing.
What? You think coaches are finished products with nothing to learn?
Only players who pops into my mind are McT and Fred instead of Herrera and Matić. Other that that, especially up front, there's not much.
Ole isn't the miracle worker that some desperately believe he is.
The squad is the squad, they've proven time and time again their inconsistency. In all honesty we should've been out vs PSG but we had a magical moment which was great. In the grand scheme of things though, it wouldn't matter much.
I just don't see OGS reshaping the club to get with the modern times. All I see (and hear) are just nice things and what SAF would've done, SAF's way, spirit etc.
I thought we all agreed (when Fergie left) that the next guy shouldn't try to emulate the great man. But now Ole's fine? I don't really get that, personally.
If we give him the job, I hope he succeeds of course, but I'm really worried.
The squad is the squad, they've proven time and time again their inconsistency. In all honesty we should've been out vs PSG but we had a magical moment which was great. In the grand scheme of things though, it wouldn't matter much.
I just don't see OGS reshaping the club to get with the modern times. All I see (and hear) are just nice things and what SAF would've done, SAF's way, spirit etc.
I thought we all agreed (when Fergie left) that the next guy shouldn't try to emulate the great man. But now Ole's fine? I don't really get that, personally.
If we give him the job, I hope he succeeds of course, but I'm really worried.