Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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Dammit. We are now only on double winning form rather than treble.

#OleOut
 
City and Liverpool are both clearly better teams than us. Losing to them proves nothing other than that Ole is unable to get us to catch up to the best teams in the league in just two months, without signing a single player.

Not that this will stop a massive meltdown and reappraisal of his talents as a manager if/when we lose both games.
 
There is a 100% chance that A) Ed will let Ole know if he's being slotted for the job way in advance of anyone else knowing about it. Either by signal from the Glazer family, or the board has simply made up their minds in the backroom. B) If Chelsea for example made Ole an offer, they would not do it before the season was over and his tenure with the club was over.

Its important to know just how important this club is to Ole. Compare it to taking your 7 year old son to the carnival to catch some rides. You stand in line to ride bumpercars together, but then you decide that you're going to let him stand there and look while you ride with another kid and have a blast. Maybe even give your kid the finger and tell him to stop crying.

That scenario, is just as likely as Ole not staying the course with his Manchester United gig.

your whole post with your scenario is based on assumption that Ed let Ole know, he will going to take him as option for permanent manager and then eventually Ole get that job.

Let me give you scenario,
you love your job, you got 6 month contract for that job, company CEO let you know, he might give you longer contract for job but didn't commit anything, will you wait till last day to get contract? What if company CEO didn't offer you another contract?
What if another company come up with very big offer? will you let that offer go because you love your job?

Look I am more than happy if Ed told Ole he is in line to get permanent manager.
But we should not wait till May, If we think he is right man then we should sign him as early as possible.
This waiting till May is crazy, we might end up neither having Ole or Poch.
 
Away wins vs Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea happened only twice in ManUtd's history. Ole made it 3.

That's some record to beat. Refreshing from all the records that were broken in last 5 years like "lost to West Brom for the first time in 20-25 years", "failed to score in x consecutive games for the first time", "Failed to score in first half in x number of games".
 
The sooner we get confirmation of the permrnant manager the better and the same goes for Molde who we owe a debt of gratitute to.

I reckon the squad needs 3 - 5 players, with roughly the same again being sold. Without a Director Of Football, we need to crack on with a clear plan. Now we have a manager who has priced himself on the pitch and in the backroom, we are well placed to build the team around his strategy, which bar a little question mark on youth opportunities, is the United way

Get this month out of the way and announce it
Agree,
We don't need to announce it, just let Ole know he is permanent manager and start planning for next season.
There is nothing wrong to start planning in advance for next season.
 
You had him in the club for so many years still you dont know him. Ole Gunnar Solskjær will either go back to Molde or stay in Manchester United there isn't anything in between. He wont to go to Chelsea. The only reason that he would stay away from Norway with his kids is for Manchester United because his kids wants to live in Norway.
 
Agree,
We don't need to announce it, just let Ole know he is permanent manager and start planning for next season.
There is nothing wrong to start planning in advance for next season.

The only fly in the ointment is Molde. But what you say could work if they are told in private and they are happy to not announce OGS' replacement (i.e. give a caretaker the fu time role)
 
If we win against Liverpool next game, we'd be 8 points clear of Liverpool and City, 4 points clear off Spurs in Ole's league over 2 months.

Give him full backing in summer, RB, CB, RW, and more CM depth, he may be challenging for titles IMO
 
That's good point,
I think Molde will happy for Ole if he become our full-time manager. and they also have that possibility in mind at beginning.
They are very supportive from beginning.
 
Agree,
We don't need to announce it, just let Ole know he is permanent manager and start planning for next season.
There is nothing wrong to start planning in advance for next season.

This. A massive bonus of appointing Ole is that we can be active in the transfer market the minute the window opens and, hopully, get a full pre-season in with the new recruits. It could take months of wrangling with Levy to try and prize Poch from Spurs, even if he wanted to come.
 
That's good point,
I think Molde will happy for Ole if he become our full-time manager. and they also have that possibility in mind at beginning.
They are very supportive from beginning.

I thought we’d already agreed the ‘compensation fee’ we would pay Molde if we offered Ole the full time role.
 
If we win against Liverpool next game, we'd be 8 points clear of Liverpool and City, 4 points clear off Spurs in Ole's league over 2 months.

Give him full backing in summer, RB, CB, RW, and more CM depth, he may be challenging for titles IMO
If we beat Liverpool we'd be on 54 points and City + Liverpool will be on 65. That's 11 points. We'd also be 6 points behind Spurs if they lose to Burnley, 7 if they draw and 9 if they win.
 
As professional he will also understand that, this is his biggest opportunity to get good manager job,
If we don't commit why he should wait and sabotage his opportunity?


You wont let this go.........


Chelsea now favourites to nab him. His dream to manage chelsea.............a club where managers get sacked for winning trophies...........
 
If we beat Liverpool we'd be on 54 points and City + Liverpool will be on 65. That's 11 points. We'd also be 6 points behind Spurs if they lose to Burnley, 7 if they draw and 9 if they win.

if we beat Liverpool, we reduce 19 to 11 in just 2 months since Ole has taken over, remarkably. Hope our defeating them would do more damages for them in a future fixture, they got Chelsea and Spurs at home.
 
if we beat Liverpool, we reduce 19 to 11 in just 2 months since Ole has taken over, remarkably. Hope our defeating them would do more damages for them in a future fixture, they got Chelsea and Spurs at home.
I hope we damage City and Liverpool just enough so Spurs can nick the title :D
 
I think most of us in here are as well. People are talking about Pochettino as if he want's to come anyway. As it stands there's no evidence to suggest he's even interested in the position, plus, if Solskjaer carries on in this form, no manager would want to follow him anyway.

Yeah that's another good point. The new manager would be judged on the idea of what Solskjaer could have done, and if the season continue like this that's not a nice situation to be in.
 
expected a loss and the wolves to circle but once again, this guy pulls it off. Really impressed with our defending second half as we shut them out considering we were told we need an entire new defence. I'll say it again; sign a quality RB, CM and RWF and we'll challenge next year. a CB can wait if Smalling can stay fit due to Victor's revival. They complement each other well and Smalling is a beast in the air and has the pace. If Smalling had played vs Spurs I think we would have had an easier time as he can win these one on one duels.
the response was like old United in that we have completely moved on and forgotten about the last defeat.
 
City and Liverpool are both clearly better teams than us. Losing to them proves nothing other than that Ole is unable to get us to catch up to the best teams in the league in just two months, without signing a single player.

Not that this will stop a massive meltdown and reappraisal of his talents as a manager if/when we lose both games.

This. First it was Spurs who was the litmus test, then Arsenal, then PSG, then bouncing back from defeat to beat Chelsea and now its Liverpool. Its true that during his tenure we had some fairly easy games like Fulham and Huddersfield, but beating all the big London clubs at their own ground cant be done on smiles and hugs alone
 
Yeah that's another good point. The new manager would be judged on the idea of what Solskjaer could have done, and if the season continue like this that's not a nice situation to be in.
Exactly, they'd be out of a job around Christmas and Solskjaer back in if things started going badly.
 
This. First it was Spurs who was the litmus test, then Arsenal, then PSG, then bouncing back from defeat to beat Chelsea and now its Liverpool. Its true that during his tenure we had some fairly easy games like Fulham and Huddersfield, but beating all the big London clubs at their own ground cant be done on smiles and hugs alone
You'll never please some people because they don't want to be pleased. The goalpost moving is being done by lunatics mostly.
 
I think the whole argument is tired now and has run it's course. He'll get the job at the end of the season regardless of what happens between now and then.

Agreed. Solkjaer would have to do something pretty silly to not get the job full time.

I just hope people stop with the bickering at that point because it's exhausting.

Awww. If you feel exhausted dear, please have a lie down. You can rejoin this thread in a couple of days after you have recovered your energy. ;)
 
What a load of shite. Poch started coaching in 2009 while Ole started with United reserves in 2008. Where do you think Ole has been all this time, Madrid? :rolleyes:

Ole won a trophy at every side he managed except Cardiff, Poch has never won a trophy in his life.
Lovely. Cheers for that.
 
‘Not at this level’ - this makes me laugh. As if Solskjaer has been managing pub teams for the last 10 years.

Pretty sure he has also managed more games in European competition than other managers being linked to the job.

It’s a weak argument that people who have no knowledge outside of the PL through up. Baffling.

Well, there’s our reserves, relegation fodder Cardiff and Molde in the World renowned Norwegian League.

So no, not pub leagues, but he’s not done anything anywhere near United’s level.
 
Well, there’s our reserves, relegation fodder Cardiff and Molde in the World renowned Norwegian League.

So no, not pub leagues, but he’s not done anything anywhere near United’s level.

Well no, but he's achieved some incredible results in Europe with a Molde team thats not even on the same planet as most of the teams they face financial wise:

https://www.eurosport.no/fotball/uefa-europa-league/2015-2016/calendar-result.shtml

The 2015/2016 EL campaign saw Molde win their group with Ajax, Celtic and Fenerbache. They beat Celtic home and away, beat Fenerbache in Turkey, drew twice against Ajax. They lost 3-0 to Sevilla in Spain, but won 1-0 in Norway. During that same period Manchester United lost 2-1 against FC Midtjylland in Denmark (but won 5-1 at home).

Currently Ole has won 3 out of 3 games against the top 6, lost 1 game against one of the best teams on the planet after a halftime 0-0, and is managing the best team in the premier league since he came to the club (as pr. the Ole table).

How long does he need to do something here, to have done something at United level? Mourinho has achieved more results than most managers can dream of and the team sucked under his leadership.

So what does Ole have to do exactly, how show he's worthy? Beat Liverpool? The team with the best structure and arguably best offense in the world currently? Win ever single game to eternity?
 
City and Liverpool are both clearly better teams than us. Losing to them proves nothing other than that Ole is unable to get us to catch up to the best teams in the league in just two months, without signing a single player.

Not that this will stop a massive meltdown and reappraisal of his talents as a manager if/when we lose both games.

Exactly, it's important that we have gotten back to beating teams that we are stronger than.
 
Well, there’s our reserves, relegation fodder Cardiff and Molde in the World renowned Norwegian League.

So no, not pub leagues, but he’s not done anything anywhere near United’s level.

And we all know that Norwegian league where players are allowed to use their hands and there’s no offsides right?

Football is still football.
 
Probably the only 'mistake' Ole has made to date is not taking a chance on Smalling in the PSG match. Its probable that PSG would not have scored either of their goals with him on instead of Bailly. A 0-0 would have been a very good result to take to the 2nd leg.
Of course he should have the job, there is no question.
 
Imagine if he wins a trophy in his first, not even a whole, season why darling Poch gets another top 4 trophy.
 
The way some people are shifting goal post;is it not better to say that their minds is made up on Poch no matter what Ole achieves?

We won many matches;they said those were small teams.

We won Spurs;they said De Gea saved us.

We won Arsenal they said we need to concede first and see how we react.

We drew Burnley they said;they needed to see how we react after a loss.

We lost to PSG;they said Chelsea is the ultimate test.

We beat Chelsea ;they said Liverpool is the real ultimate test.

If Ole walks on water they will accuse him of raising dust.
 
I love the way he just wipes out the diamond for the big games. Though teams are probably gonna figure it out in no time.
 
Well, there’s our reserves, relegation fodder Cardiff and Molde in the World renowned Norwegian League.

So no, not pub leagues, but he’s not done anything anywhere near United’s level.
Not every league can be the Premier League, you're aware of that right? Just because you don't place any value on the Norwegian league doesn't mean a whole country (and some of Scandinavia) doesn't watch it, go to games and enjoy it as we do the PL.
 
It's just brilliant having a manager you love again.

I'm loving all the Ole songs and chants. He's brought the club back together.
 
That's because we won last night. After PSG it's all been about why Pochettino should be the manager instead.

I think the whole argument is tired now and has run it's course. He'll get the job at the end of the season regardless of what happens between now and then. I just hope people stop with the bickering at that point because it's exhausting.
Agree! We should just stop the speculation and enjoy the ride.
 
I wo
Is getting top 4 actually a great achievement? I mean, it's obviously really important for clubs, but is it a harder thing to achieve than winning a cup? There's an established "top 6", of which Arsenal are a busted flush these days, so it's pretty much 5 teams fighting over 4 CL spots. Getting top 4 is just a case of not being the worst team out of those 5, and with us and Chelsea serving up some stinkers in the past few years, it's been a pretty low bar to beat.
I would say it definitely is a bigger achievement, at least for the clubs. Put it this way: would we swap the season we had last year for Chelsea's?