Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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Personally, I'm far less concerned about the idea that the board have already made their decision on Ole, and more concerned about where Curtis is getting his information. I'm sick of the leaks and really hoped that had come to an end.
 
Let us look at the history of this club, we defied the English FA., and went into Europe, in a period when introducing young players into a first team was unthinkable, we under the leadership of Murphy and Busby built a dynasty, on youth and fast attacking football. Munich sadly disrupted this but having set the foundations we recovered, however, after Busby we had a few lean years too say he least. Then came along Sir Alex and after a rebuilding period we enjoyed a period of success after success encapsulating the traditions set up by Sir Matt. Sir Alex retired and we went into decline, the last 3 managers in my opinion were overwhelmed by not only the history of the club but it's expectations. Now we have a manager who is steeped in the not only the history of the club but the ethos i.e. you score 4 we will score 5. , and the most important part is not put off by the expectations of the club, on the contrary is enthused by this this.
This alone in my opinion Ole should be appointed as our manager.
 
Seem to be a mini Fergie to me.

Do you all remember how Fergie managed to make average players look decent? (Cleverley, Fletcher, O'Shea)

Ole is doing the same with the likes of Jones, Young, Matic and Herrera. Not saying Matic and Herrera are average, but they sure as hell look alot better than they ever did under Mourinho.
 
It's hardly a surprise if he gets the job full term so I'm pretty sure Custis is just jumping on the ship as if to prove he's reliable by reporting news everyone is expecting.

Still great. Really everything about him strike me as younger SAF. Hopefully he becomes the one who brings us our first league title in post Fergie era. :drool:
 
You mean by appointing well renowned managers with years of experience at big clubs, giving them a blank cheque and at the minimum two years to work their magic to only fail miserably? Bringing in big names hasnt worked. They cannot handle the pressure of Manchester United because we expect to win and win in style.

Sorry but I'd be all for giving Ole the job. There's no pressure on him. If he fails, he fails and nobody will look down on him for it because he's a club legend. That is the beauty of his appointment.

big names not being able to handle the pressure at Man Utd? Are we somehow still pretending this is the biggest job in football? not won the league in like 6 years now, kids are growing up watching City be THE team in Manchester. Van Gaal has managed Barcelona and Bayern, Mourinho managed Real, they didn’t succeed at United not because of pressure, but because we didn’t do due diligence. Van Gaal was past it, Mourinho the same and was not a good fit (many said this at the time), we hired Moyes because he was Scottish and had spent like a decade at a mid table club without getting sacked, and now, if that report is right, we are hiring a dude because of a winning run, an endearing face and interview quotes, although to be fair, he has a connection to the club.

Tbh, I don’t give a feck if people will look down on Solskjaer or not, I don’t see beauty in none of that and it’s not my concern, I just don’t believe United can afford to go into the next managerial appointment with a “if he fails, he fails” attitude

I didn’t even say it’s a bad appointment, I just find it odd having it decided already (according to that report), it looks unlikely now, and hopefully it doesn’t happen, but so much could change before the end of the season, but alas
 
He's done phenomenally.

The next 3 games will define the rest of our season though. Lose badly against PSG: you've almost guaranteed yourself out of the CL. Lose against Chelsea: well there's one trophy gone. Lose against Liverpool: lose the grip on top 4 especially now comes the classical late season resurgence of Arsenal for their 4th spot.

Win the next 3 games and I want Ole signed to a 20 year contract.
Either way, he's done more than enough to get at least the next season.

He has given the club and fans the Manchester United joy back
He has given our football an identifiable identity and rhythm on the field
He has gotten the results
He has taken our more 'mediocre' players and elevated them and has squeezed the missing 20-30% out of our top players. Just like SAF did.
He handles the media flawlessly. The media can't be bothered putting the spotlight on us anymore. The players addicted to their social media definitely benefit from that significantly.
The whole backroom staff works that 20% harder as they are clearly made to feel important. He accepted his manager of the month award with them ffs.
He has tactically outclassed some good managers already.

There's literally not a box he's kept unchecked. It's now the next 3 games that will define the rest of our season but they will not define the effect Ole has on the club and team.
 
big names not being able to handle the pressure at Man Utd? Are we somehow still pretending this is the biggest job in football? not won the league in like 6 years now, kids are growing up watching City be THE team in Manchester. Van Gaal has managed Barcelona and Bayern, Mourinho managed Real, they didn’t succeed at United not because of pressure, but because we didn’t do due diligence. Van Gaal was past it, Mourinho the same and was not a good fit (many said this at the time), we hired Moyes because he was Scottish and had spent like a decade at a mid table club without getting sacked, and now, if that report is right, we are hiring a dude because of a winning run, an endearing face and interview quotes, although to be fair, he has a connection to the club.

Mate, this is the biggest job in Football. Whether we have had relative success or not in the last 6 years, when something big happens to our club IE Mourinho sacked or Ferguson falling ill/retiring when he did, we are front page of 90% of the global news websites and papers. I'm not sure where you are from, but im far from Manchester in a Country where football is not the main sport and even still its front page news.

Its far too easy too defend Van Gaal and Mourinho due to not fitting in. Good managers are successful, great managers adapt. Both of them should have been good enough to Manage United to a title and for whatever reason, neither could.

Im over providing Managers with "pedigree" a chance to succeed. In Australia we have dog food called Pedigree Pal and quite frankly, dog food is about as good as our last two managers have brought to the table.
 
IMO Arsenal's good run had lots of good fortune and dodgy decisions go their way and even if you ignore that I don't see anything that arsenal do/did which is anything like Emery's style of Seville/psg, to me it looks like wenger is still in charge (same small passes and naive defending, which a manager should be sorting out but same old). Don't really see what he has changed from wenger every time I've watched them.

As for Serri, I might be wrong on this but they didn't really play much different to the way they have now (ignore this city game) it's the same pass * 100 then hazard scores, yes they did play the possession game but I don't think they were above average tbh.

As for ole, he has completely changed our playing style despite the obvious holes in our squad (weak defence, no RW/RB) and is working on maximising our strengths. IMO there's still alot to improve as you can see players trying to do things in matches that aren't quite coming off but there are clear signs of improvement in our way of playing (only been 2 months since he took over). The teams we have beaten so far (bar Spurs and Arsenal away) are teams we should be beating with our attacking players, so that's not a surprise but it's the manner of performances which has impressed rather than just results which is more important atm and if he can continue that through out the season then I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be given the job and waiting till may to decide to give him the job (if we continue to improve bit by bit) doesn't change anything, I highly doubt he'd rather be anywhere else other than here managing United.

The board have f'd up the previous 3 appointments by moving away from what United are about and just going with big names and Moyes. if Ole continues to do well, i hope they won't feck this up by appointing a new shiny toy and once again moving away from what makes this club great.
I have to agree with you, Ole and Phelan almost changed everything at the club, most important the attitude and the atmosphere around, positivity and knowing exactly what it means to wear that shirt. But still some concerns about his relationship with the Glazers, can he ask for what he wants and add to the team! This will never know now surely. Also can he maintain what he done so far going to this crazy month and fixtures we have will prove a lot IMO.
 
Mate, this is the biggest job in Football. Whether we have had relative success or not in the last 6 years, when something big happens to our club IE Mourinho sacked or Ferguson falling ill/retiring when he did, we are front page of 90% of the global news websites and papers. I'm not sure where you are from, but im far from Manchester in a Country where football is not the main sport and even still its front page news.

Its far too easy too defend Van Gaal and Mourinho due to not fitting in. Good managers are successful, great managers adapt. Both of them should have been good enough to Manage United to a title and for whatever reason, neither could.

Im over providing Managers with "pedigree" a chance to succeed. In Australia we have dog food called Pedigree Pal and quite frankly, dog food is about as good as our last two managers have brought to the table.

Biggest job in England, but in football, it has to be Real Madrid.
 
He's done phenomenally.

The next 3 games will define the rest of our season though. Lose badly against PSG: you've almost guaranteed yourself out of the CL. Lose against Chelsea: well there's one trophy gone. Lose against Liverpool: lose the grip on top 4 especially now comes the classical late season resurgence of Arsenal for their 4th spot.

Win the next 3 games and I want Ole signed to a 20 year contract.
Either way, he's done more than enough to get at least the next season.

He has given the club and fans the Manchester United joy back
He has given our football an identifiable identity and rhythm on the field
He has gotten the results
He has taken our more 'mediocre' players and elevated them and has squeezed the missing 20-30% out of our top players. Just like SAF did.
He handles the media flawlessly. The media can't be bothered putting the spotlight on us anymore. The players addicted to their social media definitely benefit from that significantly.
The whole backroom staff works that 20% harder as they are clearly made to feel important. He accepted his manager of the month award with them ffs.
He has tactically outclassed some good managers already.

There's literally not a box he's kept unchecked. It's now the next 3 games that will define the rest of our season but they will not define the effect Ole has on the club and team.

Liverpool is the most important game of this bunch. Defeat Pool and play a competitive game VS PSG and I'm content with that. Chelsea match is a bonus.
 
Agree with the thought that its a pretty weird timing for confirming Ole. Rather we wait and see where we end up in March before making a call.

Just don't want any emotions coming to play when we make the call. In this case , i am very glad Ed is calling the shots as he wouldn't be emotionally invested towards the club or Ole.
 
Biggest job in England, but in football, it has to be Real Madrid.
Not really, anyone can get the Real job and get sacked / feel the pressure.
United is still a great job where the pressure is high but the support system is way better than at other places. United revolve around the manager still Real don't.
So while Real may be more successful, United is the biggest and best job in football, which is why Mourinho hankered after it for a long while
 
No doubt Poch has done some great transfers like Eriksen, Alderwereid and Verthongen, but hes been very fortunate having Kane and Alli come through under his reign. The former is probably the best striker in the PL right now and the latter is probably the most valuable (except Pogba). Poch has managed to assemble a very good team on a small budget, but he has not won anything yet which is what concerns me.

Poch managing to build a great squad does not mean he will take us to glory and win trophies. In fact, having Ranieri outfox him (pun intended) in 2015/16 is actually pretty damning imo since all the other top clubs were awful that season.
He didn't sign Vertonghen and Eriksen. I know that he's the greatest thing since Big Bang, but let's not give him credit for signing players which were at Spurs before him.
 
Not really, anyone can get the Real job and get sacked / feel the pressure.
United is still a great job where the pressure is high but the support system is way better than at other places. United revolve around the manager still Real don't.
So while Real may be more successful, United is the biggest and best job in football, which is why Mourinho hankered after it for a long while

That is not true.
 
Many of us know that Ole would never go anywhere else (like Chelsea), but the Glazers won't take that chance, hence he's signed now.
 
Norwegian media running with the 'He is the next permanent manager' stories, and are using 'newspaper powerhouses' Sun and DM as their sources. Bunch of cretins :rolleyes:
 
Norwegian media running with the 'He is the next permanent manager' stories, and are using 'newspaper powerhouses' Sun and DM as their sources. Bunch of cretins :rolleyes:

Yup, but to be fair the story is by Custis. He’s been quite reliable with United news.
 
It’s getting to the stage where it’d Be crazy to not give him the job. It would take a complete reversal in our form to convince me he isn’t the right man for the job.

If Ed appointed someone else now the fans would never forgive him.

No point jumping the gun when there is no need to. He's here til the season ends and we won't announce a new manager til then.

We've plenty of challenges for him until then to prove he's the man, especially with 4 top 6 games, Chelsea in the FA Cup and PSG in the cup.

I'm all for Ole but what if he lost the majority of those games?
 
This rumour was first broke by a BBC journalist who apparently has a friend that's close to the board at United. Decision was made after the Leicester game apparently, hence the reason the Glazier's were at the Fulham game.
Well link that then.
 
I don't mind giving him a one or two year deal. As successful as he has been, teams will gradually study his tactics more and more as matches go by and over the summer, then we will see a true test of his abilities next season. We have seen many one-season wonder managers time and time again who, once opposition figure out their tactics, cannot evolve and continue to be succesful.

There is little risk in a two year deal, the players love him so they will be willing to stay on if we give him a permanent deal. Giving him that deal shows that we have confidence that he can take United forward but, if things go pear-shaped, there isn't a large loss in cutting him off.
 
No point jumping the gun when there is no need to. He's here til the season ends and we won't announce a new manager til then.

We've plenty of challenges for him until then to prove he's the man, especially with 4 top 6 games, Chelsea in the FA Cup and PSG in the cup.

I'm all for Ole but what if he lost the majority of those games?
I personally think it's done but we'll wait for the right time to make the announcement which will probably be before the end of the season as there's contracts to sort out and negotiations with Molde to happen to.

Even if we lost a chunk of games, I can't see us going on a losing streak, we've already seen how the team respond to a set back and he knows the importance of turning dropped points into a resurgence. Losing to the big boys in the league or Europe has no shame and he shouldn't be judged on it, especially when you consider he's only been in the job 7 weeks and would probably like a couple of players in certain areas where we're weak.
 
Lets see how he does against Lpool and City first. If he gets top 4 its a no brainer really.
 
I don't mind giving him a one or two year deal. As successful as he has been, teams will gradually study his tactics more and more as matches go by and over the summer, then we will see a true test of his abilities next season. We have seen many one-season wonder managers time and time again who, once opposition figure out their tactics, cannot evolve and continue to be succesful.

There is little risk in a two year deal, the players love him so they will be willing to stay on if we give him a permanent deal. Giving him that deal shows that we have confidence that he can take United forward but, if things go pear-shaped, there isn't a large loss in cutting him off.
Fecking hell, very generous of you...

This is setting yourself up for failure, you either commit or you don't. We back the manager with a three year deal or we go elsewhere and back another manager with a three year deal, minimum. Solskjaer has managed for 10 years and has been continually competitive, you're probably not aware of this but he has been scouted by many, many teams and managers before now. Teams are setting up differently against us now, as we've seen over the last few games but they still can't stop us from creating chances and being clinical with them.

As we progress into next season, teams will try to frustrate us more and sit deeper, I suspect most of the tactical work coming into the end of this season and the start f next (especially for home games) will be breaking teams down who come to defend. I'm pretty sure our backroom staff and Solskjaer know what they're doing in this regard.
 
It'll be amazing if he can be a success here and bring us some trophies. Can't think of a more likeable ex United player for it to happen to. The only thing that could possibly be better is Eric Cantona being manager and winning a treble
 
Lets see how he does against Lpool and City first. If he gets top 4 its a no brainer really.
Do you not feel judging him against the top 2 teams in the country (and maybe Europe) who are clearly a level above everyone else a bit harsh?

First it was Cardiff and Huddersfield, then Tottenham and Arsenal, then it was PSG and now it's Liverpool and City. There's an insane amount of goalpost moving going on in this thread.
 
Appears to be a direct briefing from Ole's camp about the changes he's implemented and the way he's behaving. The part about Ferguson not driving him from the backseat is likely to dispel the myth that he is just doing what SAF wants, which is fair.

Solskjaer said in press conference that SAF visited training only twice. Don't think anyone seriously believes SAF is behind all this.
 
Appears to be a direct briefing from Ole's camp about the changes he's implemented and the way he's behaving. The part about Ferguson not driving him from the backseat is likely to dispel the myth that he is just doing what SAF wants, which is fair.

Ole's camp?

I don't even think Ole has a camp.
 
Do you not feel judging him against the top 2 teams in the country (and maybe Europe) who are clearly a level above everyone else a bit harsh?

First it was Cardiff and Huddersfield, then Tottenham and Arsenal, then it was PSG and now it's Liverpool and City. There's an insane amount of goalpost moving going on in this thread.

Naa mate I'm in the Ole camp. My post was about making it official. I'm actually enjoying watching United play and its plain as day the Galactico strategy and high profile managerial appointments isnt the way to go foward.