Up until 18 months ago, PL clubs were still employing Frank Lampard. Wayne Rooney recently got the Plymouth job despite taking Birmingham from promotion contenders to relegation candidates. I'm sure Championship clubs aren't turning their nose up at the idea of hiring a manager who got back-to-back top 4 finishes in the PL.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | Managerial Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
Only a few crazies thought he'd have us winning the title up against a peak City and Liverpool. You weren't a nostradamus for being 'proved right' on that front.
In order to know Solskjaer wasn't good enough - not just to win a title - one did not need to be nostradamus. Just open one's eyes.
Oles idea of tactic was passion, verticality, pace, intensity and directness. Not that those are wrong but at this point in time, every team was shaped like that. Then came Barcelona with their tiki taka showing that you can combine such football with collective principles to get even better. From then on, more and more teams employed pressing and zonal principles, positional play. We went from Fergie to "be hard to beat" Moyes, LVGs version of possession football which had zero penetration as long as he didn't have a great individualist on form, to destructive Mourinho. Only to arrive at Ole... Who then wasted even more time chasing a form of football that isn't the meta anymore.
You shouldn't act as if you can speak for anybody. And just fyi - your Atletico example isn't really good as the success isn't soooo great and even them went on to become more proactive than before. If all you care about is results, thats fine. Go for it. You can save yourself the time to watch the games then and you can talk about us being great when we won 3:1 and we were shit when we lost 0:1. Each to their own. But lets not act as if you would set the marks here and anybody else is "just not getting it".
Thats actually true. I was also under the impression that a half decent coach must have been able to get more out of this squad. Either I've been wrong or we don't have a half decent manager right now. But after all - all this doesn't really make Ole a better coach because we wasted time moving sideways.
I am sure Pep and his players are still really distraught when we beat them to "close the distance" to 11 or 12 points behind them when around Christmas we were pretty even with them... Oles City knack is a bit overplayed, whenever Pep really needed a result, he got it. Granted, Ole had us playing very intense against them, those were games we really looked up for it. But in the grand scheme of things it was more a case of "just another game for City" while it was "our world cup final". Something we made fun of Liverpool back in the day...
I'll save us the time and state that this post is exactly in line with the rest of your posts and hope we agree to disagree.
I like that way of interpreting the whole thing. It would have been the smart thing to just politely avoid that question but in this day and age and with journalists crazy for something to get some sauciness out of, it is just fine.
Follow your own advice. My post had absolutely nothing to do with "irrational hatred towards a half-decent manager" but with being shocked that so many fans seemingly learned absolutely nothing from the misery. I am sure, you are capable of seeing the difference arent you? I am sure you would have been able to understand that from my first post as well. It starts getting a bit tiresome always getting accused of some form of hate."Some of my favourite post-Fergie memories were under Ole"
"2nd and 3rd in back to back seasons was decent"
"I enjoyed those wins at the Etihad with Dan James and Lingard starting"
The meltdown in some of these responses are genuinely hilarious
"Ole in-ers are a cult!"
"These posts make me want to delete my account"
Get a grip lads. There's disliking a managerial reign and then there's just irrational hatred towards a half-decent manager. The frothing at the mouth from certain posters comes across as weirdly resentful as if Ole shagged your missus or something.
The answer has to be no. If we need an interim manager right now we're likely better off going with Ruud than with Ole.
In an era where a lot of people online and on the caf think that 'football is boring now' and there are no more superstars due to the likes of Pep coaching the mavericks out of players, I thought it was refreshing to see Ole encourage his forwards to use their individual brilliance instead of coaching repetitive patterns of play. Sure, it wasn't the way to win a PL title but top 3 finishes in each of his full seasons was evidence of his tactics being successful enough to warrant some credit.
I apologise for accusing you of irritational hate. Just on the bolded part - 'misery' isn't a word I would use to describe Ole's tenure. As a fan, I felt happier under Ole than any other manager. Far from miserable. There were a couple of miserable results in his last month at United but overall the good memories far outweigh the bad memories.
ETH and Ole are both rubbish managers at United. I think equally rubbish.