Red in STL
Turnover not takeover
That's your take on what I said??Pretty elitist view. Do you think there's no point in cheering for Brighton, Wolves or Palace then? They certainly play/watch each game aiming/hoping for a win. But in regards to the full season, there's plenty who's goals are much lower than winning the competitions. That goes double for fans - 90% of the teams don't really ever win trophies. While footballers are highly ambitious by profession, fans watch to be entertained. I still remember the win of TSV Vestenbergsgreuth against Bayern in the mid 90s. Did they go on to win the competition? Certainly not, but I still remember their win 30 years ago, though couldn't tell you who actually went on to win the cup back then.
Ask any Spurs or Newcastle fan whether they would rather win the league cup or the FA cup or finish 4th and qualify for the CL
Brighton and Palace played us in FA Cup finals and almost won
It's not elitist to prefer to win a trophy rather than win nothing and finish 4th