Sometimes when you are really upset or nervous you smile or chuckle.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Sometimes when you are really upset or nervous you smile or chuckle.
Quite a lot has been made of a smile but I dont really care for it so long as proper work is being done behind the scenes to make things right.
Two reasons. First he smiled when he didnt like the question. Second he wasnt paying attention when he was asked another (Was to busy watching replays). And third, he didnt seem to be in very good mood if you ask me. But then again, with a thin squad like that, he cant afford to put negative energy into the squad. He have to make them keep going. You have to be pretty thick going in with a hairdresser after that, even if the game was shit.
And if you ask me, making players afraid of you trying to look angry is a bit far fetched when your nickname is baby face. And last, he has already showed how ruthless he can be. Just ask the seven players who are not at the club anymore. And the next seven.
Having watched that show on Youtube, the utd stand, i understand why the CAF is what it is.
Solskjær is as normal as it gets.
Not 100% relevant - but my grandfather told me back in the day that the most he'd ever laughed (uncontrollably, in fact) was when he was chased by German soldiers across a marsh during WW2.
So, yeah.
But seriously, Christ on a tandem with Muhammad: this is ridiculous. He smiles too much?
Tbf I actually don't really get this need for managers to be angry or intimidating. Especially in modern football where the players know they are far more valuable than the manager, being an aggressive prick will only help you alienate your squad.
I don't agree with what RVP said but I think it's quite a big bite from Ole.
Feeling the pressure a bit?
Feeling the pressure a bit?
12.08.2019 (Van Persie visiting the Tv2 football studio in Norway 08 + months into Ole`s reign)
Quote Van persie `when everything goes good, Manchester United are like a beautiful animal. But, when things go wrong it becomes a beast`
Quote Van Persie `Ole Gunnar has given the fans a reason to smile again, after dry years. What is interesting is V.P adding this: Much of that reason lies in his ability to man management
01.01.2020
(Leading question from the anchor man who want`s to provide some juice to the popcorn supporters so that they don`t dry out) `Do you think there`s perhaps a slight lack of fear when it comes to the coach` - V.Persie `Probably, by the looks of it i thinks so`
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English media `Van Persie doesn`t hold back on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer` the mice officially became an elephant.
: Doesn`t hold back ? I think he hardly said anything. Ferdinand took over and it fell dead. Just this repeated `Probably, by the looks of it i thinks so` is that to not hold back ? Wow, then i hope english media should not question me out one day
Go back to eastenders all, nothing to see here. Van Persie will probably join with Ferdinand onto the Manchester United training ground one day before not to long. Ole and V.P will shake hands and they will blame it on the media.
- Instead of a verbal pundit approach. V.P could help out sharpen Greenwoods technique and let the feet do the talking.
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Quote Van persie `when everything goes good, Manchester United are like a beautiful animal. But, when things go wrong it becomes a beast`
Quote Van Persie `Ole Gunnar has given the fans a reason to smile again, after dry years. What is interesting is V.P adding this: Much of that reason lies in his ability to man management
01.01.2020
(Leading question from the anchor man who want`s to provide some juice to the popcorn supporters so that they don`t dry out) `Do you think there`s perhaps a slight lack of fear when it comes to the coach` - V.Persie `Probably, by the looks of it i thinks so`
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English media `Van Persie doesn`t hold back on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer` the mice officially became an elephant.
: Doesn`t hold back ? I think he hardly said anything. Ferdinand took over and it fell dead. Just this repeated `Probably, by the looks of it i thinks so` is that to not hold back ? Wow, then i hope english media should not question me out one day
Go back to eastenders all, nothing to see here. Van Persie will probably join with Ferdinand onto the Manchester United training ground one day before not to long. Ole and V.P will shake hands and they will blame it on the media.
- Instead of a verbal pundit approach. V.P could help out sharpen Greenwoods technique and let the feet do the talking.
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.. maybe. He probably changed his diet to much. From Norwegian to English. But hey, maybe you have some fashion tips for him ? You clearly have an opinion on the matter, and don`t forget your purse ..
It's not a purse it's a murse get it right, and fashion is not my forte , perhaps if it was a diet thing he should consider adding better macros to his diet? but even then that wont help him perhaps he needs to start spending more time in Norway?
I am sure Molde would be happy to take him back? That might just be the answer to reinvigorate him, he can also take Lingard with him.
I rarely read a long post but I did on this one because you mad some rather intriguing points. However this is what I think
a- the club has wasted alot of money in the past and honestly I don't think the Glazers can afford another rebuild. Player's fees had gone at the roof and while the Glazers are rich, they aren't that rich either.
b- Woodward is probably the only guy the Glazers trust which explains why he's got near absolute power.
c- the club is probably on sale. It explains the reluctance on spending too much (net spend), the lack of investment in the club's infrastructure (ex stadium roof) and the type of staff we're hiring (Ole, Mckenna, Carrick, the guy we brought in from Australia etc) which I doubt they are on big money irrespective of what the media might say. Ah and the rumours coming from Saudi. There's no smoke without fire.
d-- no one has yet met the asking price, which is fair enough. On one hand you've got the biggest brand name in football. On the other hand you've got a struggling club who doesn't generate enough profit to justify the ridiculous price the Glazers are asking for the club. This means there will be alot of posturing but very little investment to back it. No one want to force potential new owners to commit into projects they don't want to commit in however the Glazers wouldn't want to look desperate to sell. Things will be business as usual up till the very end.
e- We won't go for DOF mainly because that would mean that the Glazers would have to reveal their hand (ie their spending power) to people they don't really trust.
f- Ole is comfortable for the Glazers. He won't rock the boat cause he's too grateful to do that, he's a club legend which means that the top reds will be very patient with him and he's a genuinely good guy. Feck even Roy 'Wolverine' Keane finds it difficult to go hard on him. Which explains why he wasn't shown the door.
g- However Ole isn't perfect. First of all he's pretty mediocre as a manager. Secondly he doesn't really have that wow factor to attract players. Which explains why we're signing local players who tend to join us for prestige of playing for Manchester United, rather then because of external factors like winning trophies and being managed by a top manager.
It's all about finding the fine balance between ranting and raving and cajoling. It takes a certain type of character to make it at the very top as a manager which is one of the reasons why I don't think Ole will make it here.
Ole didn`t look that bothered to me . It just came across as him dismissing an ex Gooner that played a small part in Uniteds history.
Fergie failed to hold on to Pogba too, I guess he couldn’t sell him on what was going on at United?
You don’t know the reasoning behind Haaland’s decisions, stop fecking assuming whatever helps bolster your argument, it’s poor form.
RvP is likely to throw another barb back. He's definitely got a nasty streak through him, RvP does.
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Pogba wanted to play. Sir Alex preferred anyone but him in CM (bringing Scholes out of retirement, playing Giggs in CM, Cleverley, Rafael in midfield). It was only natural for him to leave. I very much doubt that this is the issue with Haaland.
Ole might wish he had just said RVP is allowed his opinion. The press/TV will just stoke the fire at every opportunity.
You mean meltdown?
Yep. The bottom line, surely, is the football media's desperate need for controversy. They're unscrupulous and sly in this: if you're a manager, they're the equivalent of having a (false) friend constantly saying "You wanna hear what ------- says about you behind your back." These 'journalists' will do or say anything in order to coax an overreaction.Domestic Tadpole said:
Exactly, when the hacks smell blood -- its over.
No its not. It is a very integrated step with talent from Norway these days. One step at the time, and going from one level to the next you can achieve. Haaland turned down Juventus before going to Red Bull. And he now turned down Man Utd for going to Dortmund. Both him and Odegard have their site set on the top, and they know exactly how to. Playing is of much importance for these guys and money is of none.
Jake Humphries will definitely prod away. Can't stand him.
Sam Luckhurst immediately springs to mind.
He sticks the knife into everybody. Some of the players are on his radar.
There is nothing in his leadership that makes me comfortable.
Cheers, man.
I hope you're right about the club being on sale. It would explain a lot of things that otherwise would have to be attributed to sheer incompetence. I don't know how i would feel about a potential Saudi takeover (if the club becomes very depended on the owner's pocket, i will not be OK with it) but your explanation puts the Glazers and Woodward's actions in a perspective that isn't all doom and gloom. If that's the case, your fourth point makes a lot of sense too.
Imho, the main issue is the wage bill and its contrast to our performances and our position on the table. They realize the problem but they don't know how to fix it. They trusted LvG and Mourinho only to get burned and now they don't want Di Marias, Schweinsteigers/Sanchezes, Morgans and Mkhitaryans. And that's one of the reasons why Solskjaer became so alluring to them to the point when they rushed to give him the permanent job. Buy young, go British (or PL proven). Fine, but you can't go into the season without quality, experience and depth. And offering your two most promising youngsters such lucrative deals before they show they deserve them and giving renewals left, right and centre is not going to make things any better. The money is there but they don't know how to use it properly. They can't spend as the Sheiks do or as Roman in his heyday did but there is money available.
Fully agree on your second point about Woody. Besides his role in the Glazer takeover, i believe he earned a lot of credit with them when he put the condition on Moyes' 6-year contract that the Scot would get one year's compensation and leave if he doesn't qualify for the CL (assuming what the press tells us has merit).
Regarding Solskjaer, i believe we begin from different starting lines but we end at the same conclusion: That he won't rock the boat and that his management will not make the team slightly worse in the short-term just to bounce back but send it on a downward spiral from which it will be very difficult to recover instead.
You might not notice but Dortmund are in the CL while we're in the Europa league (and if we're lucky we'll be there next season as well). We're the step down not them.
Now one can understand him turning Juventus down. The club has never bought a Norwegian player in their history, they got 3 strikers who can walk into any team and they just allowed Mandzukic to leave cause he wasn't getting games. With United is different. We do need a striker, Ole was his former manager and his father's team mate....yet, he preferred Dortmund to us.
Haaland has been managing his career well, not jumping on the biggest name and contract put in front of him. United are very unsettled right now and in a far tougher league, for a 19 year old who needs leeway for development it makes perfect sense to spring for Dortmund. To insist it’s down to Ole’s failings shows how unwilling you are to consider possibilities other than Ole sucks.
Doesn't like Lindelof either.
Louis van Gaal did well. Not in normal sense but pressers were way more entertaining than his football
Here you even fecking contradict yourself. United are a step down, but Ole alone should be enough to entice him?
It's a step down in terms of club status at the moment but as you said, young players tend to look past that and move to clubs that they can trust. You expect Ole to be the person Haaland would trust.
I have already made a detail post about him in the Haaland thread. Have been following him since he was 16. You can either take on board what i am saying, or you dont.. Man Utd is a bigger club in a superior league. He will come to premier league, but not yet. Bundesliga is his next stepping stone and his next level..
Edit: He was 17 when we saw him. Sorry..
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Maybe he thinks there will be a change of manager.
The “ex gooner” played more than a “small part” in our history, he was the driving Force behind out last title win. He hardly had a Michael Owen sequel cameo role at the club.
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You’re deluded if you think that would trump every other consideration, especially for a 19 year old. Especially considering it’s not set in stone that Ole will even be here next season.
To me it looked rehearsed, and that medieval thing was just a line he forgot but decided to throw in anyway while leaving haha.
He's cracking up, He's cracking up, Ole's cracking up
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