Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Spurs have won trophies. In fact we were the first British club ever to win a European trophy.

Of course we need to win more trophies, but then you'd just move the goal-posts and come up with some other supposed reason why Spurs are apparently just a middle-size club … just as you would if Spurs happened to win the CL this time around.

Well done for that, btw when was that? and that bold part proves you understand why spurs aren't a big club. Which is a bit of a shock as I've seen you twist words to move away from any argument vs spurs when you're loosing ....Well done you're improving (give yourself a clap or two). Just as spurs needs to do in the trophy department, in order for them to be considered a big club.

Yes at the moment spurs are a middle-size club (who are trying to become big) but once you lot start winning stuff then you'd move unlike my apparent goal post which will always remain the same, except in your head.
 
Ole needs a window to clear out the players he doesn't want and to also bring in players that will suit him and Manchester United.

How can he operate with some of the attitudes on display, it must be so hard to manage a character like Martial, he's playing football like a man who doesn't enjoy it. There are far too many players not of the level to play for Manchester United, I trust him to sort this issue out and clear the decks.

He needs time and trust, he's the first manager I've believed in since Sir Alex so I'm going to trust him to sort this mess out.

Martial and some others need to leave. Any player coming into the club and seeing that level of application as acceptable will only keep us where we are.
 
Well done for that, btw when was that? and that bold part proves you understand why spurs aren't a big club. Which is a bit of a shock as I've seen you twist words to move away from any argument vs spurs when you're loosing ....Well done you're improving (give yourself a clap or two). Just as spurs needs to do in the trophy department, in order for them to be considered a big club.

Yes at the moment spurs are a middle-size club (who are trying to become big) but once you lot start winning stuff then you'd move unlike my apparent goal post which will always remain the same, except in your head.

Whatever, sunshine. As I've said, the world is not simplistically dividable into only 6 or 7 big clubs, with the hundreds and hundreds of other clubs all being either middle-size or small.

If you can't understand or handle that, then too bad.
 
Whatever, sunshine. As I've said, the world is not simplistically dividable into only 6 or 7 big clubs, with the hundreds and hundreds of other clubs all being either middle-size or small.

If you can't understand or handle that, then too bad.

Surprise :lol: Surprise.
 
If you add Fergie's last few years football to all these years since he left, Its almost 10 years we have been carving for good football. Hope the next decade will be the opposite and we could be fortunate to witness some great football again. Clear the deck by showing door to all avg players, get rid of any top class players who doesnt want to be with us and then build again with exciting players.
 
Yeah, very weird. We were two down at halftime and i would expect him to make changes and try to change the game but it never came. Finally he subbed Dalot in. I'm very worried regarding the subs he makes.

I actually think it was fine, he knew the game had gone and I think he wanted to see how they reacted. Our team gives off a bit of an immature aura in that when we concede we generally have a bit of a sulk, I think he wanted to see how certain players reacted when they are being soundly beaten, away from home and getting a bit of a reality check. Would they still put in the effort or did they sit back and just wait for the whistle.
 
Never play Ashley young again and we'r already a better side, should be the first and easiest improvement to make. Unfortunately, Ole seems to be the only person on the planet, with any affiliation for the club, who cant see how ridiculously rubbish he is.
 
I hope when he said one or two additions are needed in his post match presser that he wasn't talking literally.
During Jose reign, when Jose said number, we signed that many players. First year he said four, we signed four. Next year he said 4, we signed 3 but tried to sign winger who we then signed in january. Last season Jose didn't say number because he moaned about new players. Or to say better, Ed refused to buy him players

So i believe that we really will buy "one or two".
 
The only thing I see as being the issue with Solskjaer’s style of play is the energy needed for it.

At the point of the PSG game(s) we were at breaking point, then all the injuries came in, the weakness of the squad exposed and nobody has every fully recovered from it.

What we need is the summer to rebuild fitness programs and rebuild the squad so we have a deeper pool to pick from and for all Players to completely rebuild their fitness levels as it crystal clear that under LVG and Mourinho far too little was done on this.
 
Spurs have won trophies. In fact we were the first British club ever to win a European trophy.

Of course we need to win more trophies, but then you'd just move the goal-posts and come up with some other supposed reason why Spurs are apparently just a middle-size club … just as you would if Spurs happened to win the CL this time around.

You need to win some trophies, that you don't need to be from a different generation to remember.
One league cup in a decade is it?
 
We'll live to regret it, but what's new

We will. All I’ve seen is people say shit like “what makes you think Poch would do a better with this squad”?.. well firstly there is no evidence to say he wouldn’t but secondly look at this squad he has built without a massive budget.. I’d be much more confident with him rebuilding our squad than I am with Ole in charge.
 
We will. All I’ve seen is people say shit like “what makes you think Poch would do a better with this squad”?.. well firstly there is no evidence to say he wouldn’t but secondly look at this squad he has built without a massive budget.. I’d be much more confident with him rebuilding our squad than I am with Ole in charge.
Yeah, losing against Citeh. Really impressive... ;)
 
Yeah, very weird. We were two down at halftime and i would expect him to make changes and try to change the game but it never came. Finally he subbed Dalot in. I'm very worried regarding the subs he makes.
Ironic, given his role as a sub.
 
The only thing I see as being the issue with Solskjaer’s style of play is the energy needed for it.

At the point of the PSG game(s) we were at breaking point, then all the injuries came in, the weakness of the squad exposed and nobody has every fully recovered from it.

What we need is the summer to rebuild fitness programs and rebuild the squad so we have a deeper pool to pick from and for all Players to completely rebuild their fitness levels as it crystal clear that under LVG and Mourinho far too little was done on this.

The only hope I have for Ole is that his style of play in the initial games looked promising. It would certainly work in the league if we had better players who could do it consistently. Which is why I'm willing to give him a chance. But if he goes for 20% possession approach even after a busy summer, I'll call for his head -- though I don't think he will do that.

Our attack is appalling. Many of our attackers are stealing a living, which is why I somewhat sympathize with Ole. All defensive mistakes can be remedied if you have proven goalscorers at the other end, but our attackers are neither intelligent nor clinical.
 
I'm not judging him, I'm questioning the hiring process. If we did our due diligence and Ole came out top of a list of highly-qualified candidates, then great. He's earned the job. If he got the job because SAF recommended him and we stopped looking elsewhere, then it makes me wonder. Ole may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread but the club is run like Fred Karno's circus.
Sorry I didn't mean it as in you was judging. I think time with tell whether Ole is the right man, this summer if he's fully back and we obtain the targets he wants will be a key indicator.
 
The only hope I have for Ole is that his style of play in the initial games looked promising. It would certainly work in the league if we had better players who could do it consistently. Which is why I'm willing to give him a chance. But if he goes for 20% possession approach even after a busy summer, I'll call for his head -- though I don't think he will do that.

Our attack is appalling. Many of our attackers are stealing a living, which is why I somewhat sympathize with Ole. All defensive mistakes can be remedied if you have proven goalscorers at the other end, but our attackers are neither intelligent nor clinical.

It’s not necessarily that our attack is appalling (though I’d drive Lukaku and Alexis anywhere that would have them) because Rashford, Martial, Lingard were all scoring in the early games, then all of them got injured. All muscle related (though I think Rashford’s was his ankle that he kept playing on) and none have got back to their pre-injury levels.
 
Absolutely unbelievable and unacceptable the way some of you have turned on Ole already.

Poch wouldn't have had us where we are today, we'd still be miles off top 4 and would have gone out to PSG. He's done a decent enough job at Spurs, but has been lucky that United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have all had moments of self destruction over the past few seasons, meaning he's grabbed top 4 due to the failures of others rather than his own success. He had a chance to win the league title and finished 3rd in a 2 horse race.

In the 2 games vs Barcelona, we've been undone by silly errors, with De Gea looking like he's not even the best 'keeper at United these days and causing panic amongst his back line every time he has the ball.

We need a big push for top 4. If we don't make it, that blame firmly lies with Jose, not Ole, who has worked miracles to get us to where we are, but has ultimately been undone by a 'keeper who has lost the only part of his game that was exceptional and a set of forwards who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

Klopp started badly at Liverpool and has only really come good this season, we need to show some backbone as a club now, back Ole and give him the time he needs to fix the mess left by 3 bad managerial choices. If we don't do this, we'll become the club we laughed at for nearly 30 years as they stumbled from one manager to another.


Best post for weeks(or from when we started to loose a few games)
 
Blimey, many turning on Ole already it seems.

I don't remember many people speaking out against him when he was pulling off the impossible a month or two back, clawing our way back into contention for fourth. I seem to remember this being deemed near enough impossible when he first took over as interim.

It would be sad enough to see were he some random manager, but he's an absolute undeniable legend of our club, boggles my mind.

Each to their own I guess but I'd rather go down in flames with Ole than watch another minute of that black-hole of integrity Jose moping around our dugout.

And for what it's worth I think Ole'll do well if given the correct backing. I'd take a qualified DOF and Phelan by his side also, were it up to me.

Cheer up ya lunes.
 
Hopefully once we back Ole in the market he can reward us with an effective watchable playing style or the decision to take him over Poch will sting.
 
Hopefully once we back Ole in the market he can reward us with an effective watchable playing style or the decision to take him over Poch will sting.

:lol: at you thinking Pochettino could get this current United side playing at that (spurs/city) level.
 
Best post for weeks(or from when we started to loose a few games)

Nothing but a hypothetical subjective opinion, Poch is a better manager than Solskjaer that is a proven fact.

Solskjaer is far more of a risk, if it pays off or not that remains to be seen.
 
:lol: at you thinking Pochettino could get this current United side playing at that (spurs/city) level.

He wouldn’t but look at some of the dross he has at Spurs who he has turned in to stars.. not to many the way he has built this squad in to what it is, I doubt Ole will do anything similar with us despite having a shit load more money.
 
He wouldn’t but look at some of the dross he has at Spurs who he has turned in to stars.. not to many the way he has built this squad in to what it is, I doubt Ole will do anything similar with us despite having a shit load more money.

How long has he been manager at spurs v Ole at united?
 
He wouldn’t but look at some of the dross he has at Spurs who he has turned in to stars.. not to many the way he has built this squad in to what it is, I doubt Ole will do anything similar with us despite having a shit load more money.

This is why he's suited to this club at our current moment more so than Ole. Ole has no credentials when it comes to building a squad to challenge for the league, we can only go off his transfer dealings when at Cardiff his signings were absolutely shocking.

It doesn't determine if Ole will be a success or failure in the market but it's more of a risk for us to invest 400 million or whatever over two seasons than it would have been to hire Poch.
 
How long has he been manager at spurs v Ole at united?

Not the point I’m making. The point is Poch has proved over time he can build a squad to challenge despite not having the level of funds around him. There is nothing to suggest Ole can and will do something that good, I hope he can but I’m not convinced.
 
:lol: at you thinking Spurs squad is better than ours.

Actually it's. Ajax squad is also better. The only thing that makes People believe our squad is better than teams who play x10 football is that our players are heavily overpaid and massively overrated.

Son alone is better than our entire attack but he'll never get the same salary or overrating our "top class" forwards Rash, Martial and Lukaku will get.

Time to realize our squad isn't achieving and it's far worse than teams we underrate.
 
Actually it's. Ajax squad is also better. The only thing that makes People believe our squad is better than teams who play x10 football is that our players are heavily overpaid and massively overrated.

Son alone is better than our entire attack but he'll never get the same salary or overrating our "top class" forwards Rash, Martial and Lukaku will get.

Time to realize our squad isn't achieving and it's far worse than teams we underrate.
BS. Poch just makes them look much better than they actually are. Credit to the manager, Spurs squad is surely no better than ours.
 
BS. Poch just makes them look much better than they actually are. Credit to the manager, Spurs squad is surely no better than ours.

We can gather as many managers as we can to manage our crop, they'll still look shite, because they're shite.

I'll take Son over our entire attack.
 
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