Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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Can you get stats (assuming you're a member) on distance covered in our games so far (vs opponents) and sprints made?

Unfortunately, no. It’s a site catered to help members make better decisions for purpose of fantasy football so all the stats are on those lines such as detailed breakdown on passing, crossing, defending, goal threat, chances etc. Distance covered and sprint made aren’t particularly useful for it hence not there.
 
Unfortunately, no. It’s a site catered to help members make better decisions for purpose of fantasy football so all the stats are on those lines such as detailed breakdown on passing, crossing, defending, goal threat, chances etc. Distance covered and sprint made aren’t particularly useful for it hence not there.

Cheers anyway mate, I guess those stats are virtually impossible to get. Strange that it's not part of general media coverage.
 
Cheers anyway mate, I guess those stats are virtually impossible to get. Strange that it's not part of general media coverage.

They are not impossible, many sites provide lot of in-depth stats for free. I’ll message few people who deal with this stuff to see if they can be obtained and then get back to you.
 
Yeah he simply has to have the balls to demand money from the board for a CM and ST in January,shouldn't just be a martyr and accept the situation until the summer.


It's funny that fans were furious about Jose for saying the squad was not good enough. And now same fans says Ole is too nice to the players.. We as fans are so good at overrate our players.

If any manager would get this squad as top6 he would be doing a miracle.
 
Of course it wpuld. We would get someone in who'll coach our side better and evaluate what we need going forward in a system that makes sense. Currently our coach is living in his own dream world where our squad doesnt need major surgery.

I'm sure he knows this squad is not good enough. The owners and Ed have control of the money.
 
I'm sure he knows this squad is not good enough. The owners and Ed have control of the money.
He'd have gotten rid of more and wanted more players of a different class to what he wanted. Its nice and cute that his signings arent completely terrible but they are still not players of the level needed.
 
No manager is getting that midfield/attacking group to play good football. I'm kind of shocked that people are expecting Ole to do it. Neither Pep or Klopp challenged for anything before making major squad rebuilds.

Getting the right players is a huge part of the process. LVG and Jose made about 15 signings each. Ole has only made 3. There is no point in quickly sacking a manager because he can't make crap players into world beaters overnight. No manager in the world can do that.

Needs to be backed properly in the market.
 
Another frustrating results, another goal conceded because of an individual error, and another poor finishing upfront. The good? well, it is hard to find one but i will say the defensive part as we did not concede many chances even playing with no recognized fullbacks. I do not think Ole should be sacked just yet, but there are things he is doing that makes it hard to defend him when results dont go our way.

As a former player myself, i have always been told 'the coach knows best' but in this case i feel like it is not the case and i am sure many will agree with me. This team can do much better with players at their best position. For the few minutes in games where we pushed Pogba forward, we get better instantly and create chances.

What on earth does Pogba show at training that convince Ole he is better used at deep lying playmaker than at number 10 role? What about Rashford, why keep playing him at n9 when he is clearly not showing any hunger or runs to score goals and looks and plays like someone with zero confidence in his game? I will not even mention and start with Lingard.

Ole is not helping himself at the moment by playing some players out of position (Pogba, Pereira). Today i blame Ole and not Tuanzebe for the goal. You dont ask a young player to play out of position (not left footed), knowing the opposition will put him under pressure and target him, to try to keep the ball and play out from the back. Same thing happen with Young (experienced player but not proper full back) against Barcelona last year.

I blame Ole for poor perfomances from Pogba, even more so, since he used him so well in a 4-3-3. I blame Ole for poor perfomances from Pereira as we all know he is clearly not a winger. I blame Ole for still being stubborn and keep playing this 4-2-3-1 tactic that does not suit the team.

All that said, i still think he can succeed and that it is too early to sack him.
 
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I believe yesterday Ole did whatever he could with the players available. Except playing dumb Young instead of Dalot I don't think tactically we were off.

Some are saying pogba played too deep, he needs to play more up front. Pogba played box to box. He is the one who starts each move. His passing was good. The moment you play him up we will lose whatever creativity left in the team. There is no player who can bring the ball from back to front creatively. He has to play deep unless we find a capable #8.

Greenwood is physically not ready to play full 90 minutes against men.

Gomes is physically more developed than greenwood but I have doubts over his tactical ability to play in the modifield. I do not rate him a good enough player at least as of today.
 
Nepotism will be the death of this club.

Keane, Neville, Scholes defending Solsjaer because he’s an ex-player. Ole himself picking Rashford and Lingard constantly even when they are shit. Foreign players like Pogba get blamed for everything even when it’s not their fault. Manchester United will never be able to move forward as long as they keep living in the past.
 
Nepotism will be the death of this club.

Keane, Neville, Scholes defending Solsjaer because he’s an ex-player. Ole himself picking Rashford and Lingard constantly even when they are shit. Foreign players like Pogba get blamed for everything even when it’s not their fault. Manchester United will never be able to move forward as long as they keep living in the past.

This. I really don't understand why they're afraid of letting go the DNA shite thingy. It's okay to promote youth but not all the youth are be able to play in this level. Look Pereira,Lingard etc. Liverpool also have glorified history but they trust Klopp (foreign manager ) without any attached to the club.
 
Nepotism will be the death of this club.

Keane, Neville, Scholes defending Solsjaer because he’s an ex-player. Ole himself picking Rashford and Lingard constantly even when they are shit. Foreign players like Pogba get blamed for everything even when it’s not their fault. Manchester United will never be able to move forward as long as they keep living in the past.

You just read what you want to and built the narrative.

Who is blaming foreign players? Whether it's fans or manager? I don't know why people keep repeating this, Rashford gets criticism more than any player and Lingard is treated like a piece of trash, Smalling is shipped off even though there is a good argument that he is our second best CB.

Words like Nepotism, park the bus has lost all the meaning in the recent times, apart from Beckham if there was one player who talked against Glazer, it was Solskjaer. He wasn't friend of Woodward or any management team. HE was hired as caretaker manager as he was available at that time, his results was good so Woodward hired him as permanent manager. If it was Nepotism then Giggs, Scholes, Neville would be managing this club.

I don't see anyone saying it's nepotism when ex players are involved in management and running the club at various top clubs. Of course we have taken the crap version of it and we should make the decision now. People talk how good it as at Bayern, Ajax where ex players play such a big roles but when ManUtd try to copy that, it's Nepotism.
 
Nepotism will be the death of this club.

Keane, Neville, Scholes defending Solsjaer because he’s an ex-player. Ole himself picking Rashford and Lingard constantly even when they are shit. Foreign players like Pogba get blamed for everything even when it’s not their fault. Manchester United will never be able to move forward as long as they keep living in the past.
Spot on. It's a cabal.
 
Ole is the luckiest guy on earth. 10th place, no signs of improvement and we never ever look like scoring from open play. Still people want to keep him. In no other top club would this be possible.
 
You just read what you want to and built the narrative.

Who is blaming foreign players? Whether it's fans or manager? I don't know why people keep repeating this, Rashford gets criticism more than any player and Lingard is treated like a piece of trash, Smalling is shipped off even though there is a good argument that he is our second best CB.

Words like Nepotism, park the bus has lost all the meaning in the recent times, apart from Beckham if there was one player who talked against Glazer, it was Solskjaer. He wasn't friend of Woodward or any management team. HE was hired as caretaker manager as he was available at that time, his results was good so Woodward hired him as permanent manager. If it was Nepotism then Giggs, Scholes, Neville would be managing this club.

I don't see anyone saying it's nepotism when ex players are involved in management and running the club at various top clubs. Of course we have taken the crap version of it and we should make the decision now. People talk how good it as at Bayern, Ajax where ex players play such a big roles but when ManUtd try to copy that, it's Nepotism.

Nobody at Bayern is totally sold on Kovac. Get your facts right.
Ole is turning us into a joke. Just because he is an ex player for us doesn't mean he has what it takes to make it here. He obviously hasn't but people are blind to it because it's Ole.
 
Nobody at Bayern is totally sold on Kovac. Get your facts right.
Ole is turning us into a joke. Just because he is an ex player for us doesn't mean he has what it takes to make it here. He obviously hasn't but people are blind to it because it's Ole.

Read the post properly before replying.
 
I dont get Ole lovers. If you forget about his past as a player and concentrate on his management record at Utd how on earth can anyone defend him. No one is asking him to challenge for titles and win silverware - yet. All we want is to win some games against teams that have shtter players than us and at least be around 6th in the table. Lack of signings is not an excuse and build for the future is not an excuse. He still needs to win games and show a bit of progress. A tiny bit will do. Thats all.
 
I dont get Ole lovers. If you forget about his past as a player and concentrate on his management record at Utd how on earth can anyone defend him. No one is asking him to challenge for titles and win silverware - yet. All we want is to win some games against teams that have shtter players than us and at least be around 6th in the table. Lack of signings is not an excuse and build for the future is not an excuse. He still needs to win games and show a bit of progress. A tiny bit will do. Thats all.

Nobody knows. The fact our squad is shit is now an excuse for being incompetent as a manager it seems. Helps if you are an ex player for that club too. He could get us relegated and people would still defend him.
 
Nepotism will be the death of this club.

Keane, Neville, Scholes defending Solsjaer because he’s an ex-player. Ole himself picking Rashford and Lingard constantly even when they are shit. Foreign players like Pogba get blamed for everything even when it’s not their fault. Manchester United will never be able to move forward as long as they keep living in the past.

Or maybe, just maybe they realize the club is in a massive rebuild and needs time before we can challenge again. Neither of those three sugarcoat things when it comes to Man Utd, and if they had to chose between Ole or the club we all know they would chose the club.

Also, say Ole get sacked tomorrow, who do we realistically replace him with?
 
We are not talking about your contribution to the forum, at least read properly or move on. It's not hard to read the post.

Someone's in a bit of a mood. And just to add: Of course it's nepotism. Just because Ole was critical of Woodward before he joined doesn't change that one single bit.
 
Someone's in a bit of a mood. And just to add: Of course it's nepotism. Just because Ole was critical of Woodward before he joined doesn't change that one single bit.

No, someone is just incapable of reading posts. Most of the problems are when people butt in without reading complete posts.
 
Ole is, in his own way, becoming as gloomy as Mourinho. He does not inspire anyone. Look at his demeanour, listen to his comments, watch his press conferences, interviews etc. He rarely seems confident, about anything.

A team reflects their manager. Always.

Ole, in my opinion, is in way, way, way above his head. You can see it. He is an average manager, has little managerial instinct, and wants time to learn on the job. So he keeps 'asking' players, fans, the press, for time.

We are getting worst under Ole Gunner Solksjaer. He knows it. We're awful. No game style at all. It's a manager learning what to do.

He says that they are '.. good players... He is happy with his squad... He has faith in his forwards...'

All nonsense. Was like watching a kid's team.
 
If we struggle against a terrible defence like Arsenal's, I am absolutely dreading what happens against Liverpool. People saying they will lift their game, I thought they would last night. If they do lift their game I think it will actually make me angrier as where was that against the other teams.
 
Ole is, in his own way, becoming as gloomy as Mourinho. He does not inspire anyone. Look at his demeanour, listen to his comments, watch his press conferences, interviews etc. He rarely seems confident, about anything.

A team reflects their manager. Always.

Ole, in my opinion, is in way, way, way above his head. You can see it. He is an average manager, has little managerial instinct, and wants time to learn on the job. So he keeps 'asking' players, fans, the press, for time.

We are getting worst under Ole Gunner Solksjaer. He knows it. We're awful. No game style at all. It's a manager learning what to do.

He says that they are '.. good players... He is happy with his squad... He has faith in his forwards...'

All nonsense. Was like watching a kid's team.

He’s ridiculously generic in his comments. Which came across well when he was a caretaker. Doesn’t quite wash when you’re lingering in 10th place as manager of one of the biggest clubs in the world.
 
I see zero pattern of play in this team. The tactics seem to be run yourself into the ground and see what happens. It's under 11s stuff.

I love ole, but the reality is he's on thin ice now and I don't see anything that suggests we are moving forwards.
Think the tactic is get the ball to Daniel. It definitely should be don't get the ball to Ashley.
 
If we struggle against a terrible defence like Arsenal's, I am absolutely dreading what happens against Liverpool. People saying they will lift their game, I thought they would last night. If they do lift their game I think it will actually make me angrier as where was that against the other teams.

They sat in against us pretty much though. It's a sure fire way to get a result against United. Zero creativity against packed defences.
 
The last bit won't happen and I'm not so sure I agree it's not possible to succeed if you get the right manager. Pretty much how Liverpool lucked out with Klopp.
It might work if Ed and Co. do not interfere and back the manager in every way. You just know they won't be able to resist sticking their noses in. Our budget is getting tighter and tighter.
 
They sat in against us pretty much though. It's a sure fire way to get a result against United. Zero creativity against packed defences.
Yes and if Arsenal have worked that out. Newcastle will do the same. I am not sure Liverpool will, but their front line is so good, much better than ours. Hell's bells even their fullbacks are a threat.
 
Manchester United legend Roy Keane says former team-mate Ole Gunnar Solskjaer should "100%" be given more time as manager.

"I think he has been brilliant, a good honest guy. It is hard work at the moment, but there are six or seven young players learning their way," said Keane on Sky Sports.

"We’re all very impatient, we want success yesterday, but you have to give the man time. He is frustrated, under pressure, but dealing with it. He’s a classy guy but no doubt he will be disappointed at not winning enough games.

"They have given him the job, support him in a couple of transfer windows. Are there more tough days ahead? You bet your life, but you need to stick with it. There was a lack of quality from both teams tonight. Their lack of goals, the lack of opportunities they’re creating.

"Give these boys time. But on tonight's performance, none of them [neither Manchester United nor Arsenal] will be in the top four.

From the BBC
Just because someone is classy does not make then a great manager. He really needs help in the January transfer window. If he doesn't get that then I worry where we will end up.
 
It’s kind of funny how the posters so vehemently defending Ole keep referring to themselves as “real fans” while other posters who cast their doubts are glory-hunters. They’re so attached to sentiment and can’t seem to entertain the idea that maybe he’s just not good enough. This isn’t an attack on Ole. He never should have been put in this position in the first place but our genius board decided to give him the job anyway. I wish I could say he can turn this around, but I just can’t see it happening. We’re such a shit show right now.

I just have to get one thing off my chest. The people comparing Ole and Klopp really are a special breed.
That does make me chuckle a bit, Klopp did have a little bit of a track record as a manager. I think Dortmund are on a rather better level than Molde.
 
Why can't he try Pogba on the left, Matic - Fred - McT in the middle, James on the right and striker upfront. It's clear that Pereira and Jlingz are offering next to feckall offensively, so might as play to Pogba's strengths and shore up the middle of the park with three bruising if unspectacular midfielders.
 
The attachment dictates that you treat the bloke with some sort of respect. People that can’t manage that are wankers. Suggesting that he is similar in motive to Mourinho certainly walks that line.
No. Definitely think he wants to do the right thing for United, but he is either completely out of his depth or is not getting the support he wants. He is not SAF and he does not strike fear into the board.
 
Thought so.. its a bit difficult know with the some of the posts in here. Yep 6 transfer windows at least because he loves the club.
Think people need to separate his capabilities as a player and as a manager. He is a legend as a player, that does not mean that will transfer as a manager. There are plenty of club legends who could not hack it as top level managers.
 
No. Definitely think he wants to do the right thing for United, but he is either completely out of his depth or is not getting the support he wants. He is not SAF and he does not strike fear into the board.

Speaking of support on the football side, his coaching staff clearly aren't up to it either, so even if he was good enough, no manager can do a decent job if he's surrounded by people who don't know what they're doing.
 
Why can't he try Pogba on the left, Matic - Fred - McT in the middle, James on the right and striker upfront. It's clear that Pereira and Jlingz are offering next to feckall offensively, so might as play to Pogba's strengths and shore up the middle of the park with three bruising if unspectacular midfielders.

We are now 1980's Man Utd so why not!
 
Ole is back to being a caretaker in all but name. Inept though they are, the board will know this cant go on and will be sorting out a succession plan, although may be at the end of the season depending on who is lined up.
One thing is for sure, the next manager will succeed. Thats because standards and expectations have dropped so ridiculously low, almost any manager could exceed them. 16 months ago 2nd place and cup final wasnt good enough, now top 4 isnt even being discussed.
 
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