You’re correct but the results in the last 15 games are trending south, but at this time nobody cares about the results, just progress. The sad part is that there is no progress, in fact the opposite.
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You’re correct but the results in the last 15 games are trending south, but at this time nobody cares about the results, just progress. The sad part is that there is no progress, in fact the opposite.
It's a group of players put together by a novice manager and a demonstrably incompetent recruitment team. The fact that the resultant squad is utterly useless was sadly rather predictable.
DoF should have been installed years ago to mitigate some of the current board's ineptitude.
The things that are happening, I could have told you would happen before the season started. The manager is naive and nowhere near good enough.
Well maybe some players need to step forward and show some of this millions of pounds a month the market values them at when playing the likes of wolves and palace.
This is pathetic tbf..
It was ONLY with Herrera next to Pogba and McTominay that we looked like a functional team. As soon as he was injured following the PSG games we tanked, and have continued to be crap since he left. We might as well have kept Lukaku if we're going to play slow-pokes like Mata and Matic, he's much more mobile than either of those two!
I still think Pereira is our best bet to play in midfield with Pogba and McTominay, he's capable of cutting a defense open occasionally, and has the legs to defend. Or Fred.
I still think Pereira is our best bet to play in midfield with Pogba and McTominay, he's capable of cutting a defense open occasionally, and has the legs to defend. Or Fred.
Legit horrific.
We need to get rid of Phelan for good as well too. Our football under SAF started to deteoriate once he took over from Quieroz.
I'm tired of the past. We need to MOVE ON. Not recreate SAF. THERE IS NO RECREATING SAF.
Carrick and McKenna can go as well. They were part of Jose's disastrous 3rd season.
The entire coaching staff(Ole included) should be sacked ASAP.
That's an abominable stat.
Add 0 away wins in 9 and relegation form which has been over 20 games and it gets worse. We lose to Arsenal next and I think he be gone sooner rather than later
That can't be true ? If it's true it means it means the players don't have much respect for him. More importantly, it's coming from one of our worst players.
But the holier than thou brigade would have attacked any such opinion.
Yes the board is severely in-competent and we have no chance until that situation is resolved
The problem is an indecisive board, we should be looking to sack him if he loses against Arsenal at home. In fact I am of the opinion that once a manager proves that he isn't the right man and won't achieve the set objectives sacking him right there is the right decision, for example Van Gaal shouldn't have survived past Christmas same with Moyes and Mourinho should have been sacked much earlier. Gives the club a fair crack at salvaging the season.
That can't be true ? If it's true it means it means the players don't have much respect for him. More importantly, it's coming from one of our worst players.
I really doubt he would say something like that. For sure when you see the text written for you and look at the video, you can see how it could have been said, but I just can't believe either that he would say that.
It'll never be confirmed for sure. Though it looks like Woodward was talking to him and not someone else.
Post-match on MOTD tonight:
“We could have won that game”
That is next level delusional sh**.
What was he watching?!? He looks dead behind the eyes and hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing.
The Ole supporters can make all the excuses they want, but when a manager overseeing and watching today’s game claims we could have won, then serious questions need to be asked.
The sooner he is gone, the better.
“We could have won that game”
That is next level delusional sh**.
What was he watching?!? He looks dead behind the eyes and hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing.
The Ole supporters can make all the excuses they want, but when a manager overseeing and watching today’s game claims we could have won, then serious questions need to be asked.
The sooner he is gone, the better.
It did come down to who scored first (sadly)
If Rashford hadn’t bodged his chance up when it was 0-0 we would have probably won, the downside to this argument is though we aren’t good enough to come back anymore which used to be uniteds strength and a physiological strength to win games before they had even started. That has gone years before Ole unfortunately.
Beautifully put - sums up my take on it totally.
For me its interesting to hear Roy Keane talking about how horrible our players are, and Rio defending Ole. And I think Roy has a point in that it truly looks like our players dont really grasp what club they are playing for. Only a lad like Dan James or AWB are giving their all. The rest dont ever backtrack, dont put pressure, dont seem to care. And this was the same under Mourinho, and nobody can argue that Mourinho is not an elite manager. We fans need to stop hopping on the manager-out-train and start giving this players the stick they deserve. The least they could do is play like they care.
We haven’t scored more than 1 goal in a game since the first fecking match. This is getting ridiculous.
Be nice if the journos stopped pussy footing around questioning Ole. Can hear it already they want to set both barrels on him for his BS and for the pathetic, abject results, but are just holding back.
You claim to want to play attacking football with high energy and youth. Why are you continually playing Matic, Mata and Rashford up front, when they can't even do the basics? Could Garner play any worse than Matic? Is that even possible? Could Gomes actually be worse than Mata? Seems unlikely. And we already know Greenwood's footballing IQ is easily double Rashford's.
Would it hurt to make a substitution earlier than the 72nd fecking minute in a game we're chasing? Would it hurt to maybe look at a tactical setup that doesnt 100% rely on scoring on a counter? Why are you so inept at setting up a team to even look like they want to move the ball forward?
You claim to want to play attacking football with high energy and youth. Why are you continually playing Matic, Mata and Rashford up front, when they can't even do the basics? Could Garner play any worse than Matic? Is that even possible? Could Gomes actually be worse than Mata? Seems unlikely. And we already know Greenwood's footballing IQ is easily double Rashford's.
Would it hurt to make a substitution earlier than the 72nd fecking minute in a game we're chasing? Would it hurt to maybe look at a tactical setup that doesnt 100% rely on scoring on a counter? Why are you so inept at setting up a team to even look like they want to move the ball forward?
Again i agree, we cant magically get more put of shit players who have failed several managers.
However, in relation to todays match, where you say pereira and lingard are both shit - yeah, probabaly. But why play pereira rw when he isnt a rw player? Ole couldnt make a better alternative appear you are right so we needed to play a different way today - perhaps a diamond or with a kind of 4321 pyramid. Something that mitigated the lack of wide options available. Sticking square pegs in round holes and hoping mata and matic and mctominay were going to be able to get forward to support the outballs to james and rashford was just plain stupid. And btw i’m a fan of Ole but just think he needs to learn to abandon the philosophy and try and get a result in games like today.
And who's fault is that if not the managers? Enough with the excuses. He was named manager last February. He had a full summer transfer window and 6 months of planning. He chose who to sign who to sell and how to spend his available transfer money. The team he ended up with is not capable of top 4. And he is obviously not capable of managing a top 4 team.
Too late then ship was already sinking. Ole shot himself in the foot with his team selection this afternoon.
Not creative. No plan B. Tactically naive. Nostalgia should not cover the gaping holes in his ability to manage a top team.
He looks very old and hagridden for a 46-year old man who was known for his babyface.
It's the manager and scouting team's responsibility to identify the targets, but it's ultimately Woodward's duty to actually sign them.
It took us all summer to sign Maguire. Mourinho wanted Maguire last year (and at a cheaper reported price) and Woodward failed to deliver. That's ultimately incompetence from the board, and I sincerely doubt Ole was satisfied with the team he had at the end of the transfer window, knowing how vulnerable it was to even one injury as well as its lack of depth. I'm not so certain Ole is the manager to get us to the highest level, but sacking him without a clear vision for the team, and the will to implement it, will just leave us in the vicious cycle we've been in for the past six years.
No need to be worried, I have heard that United are looking for a DOF ( search is on for 4 years) . Once we get that everything should be fine
Yep and if it's fletch or Rio even better because they know the club
These next 3 league matches will be vital for him. Anything less than 4 points and he's probably getting the sack. I wanted him to succeed, but sometimes it doesn't work out.
Agreed but... Jose with the Glazers and DeadWoody ... was ultimately going nowhere.
Who would come here that’s worth a shit, with the current setup?
He could drop all 9 points next 3 league matches and he won't get sacked.Earliest he gets sacked is after January.
More than anything, Ole fecked up by thinking he can get away with letting so many players go without proper replacement. People can talk all they want about money spent and clearing dead wood, but what purpose does it serve if you end up with a weaker squad?
Ole might think he'll be given time to build the squad but he won't. The current players will get him sacked by Christmas max, and it's his fault.
Ole might think he'll be given time to build the squad but he won't. The current players will get him sacked by Christmas max, and it's his fault.
You could bring Pep in and have him shafted by the Glazer Gang. Same outcome
Not going to mince my words and just come out and say Ole should have never got the job on a permanent basis, is he really any better than other interim premier league managers like Di Matteo, Shakespeare or Sherwood. He has also definitely gone more defensive since getting the job on a permanent basis and that is just disastrous
Can anyone name any decent games we have had since Ole got appointed permanently because I am really struggling to think of any, yes we got the result against Chelsea but we could easily have gone behind in that game had Abraham not hit the post
I also get the impression that the players are walking all over him and because his CV is pretty poor there is very little respect for him. I am not saying they should be scared to death like they were with Jose but he seems to really lack authority by the looks of it.
We really need to appoint a more forward thinking manager who is also tactically astute in both winning and losing situations, look I am not saying that is easy to find but we need to find one before we drift completely off the face of the earth.
Can anyone name any decent games we have had since Ole got appointed permanently because I am really struggling to think of any, yes we got the result against Chelsea but we could easily have gone behind in that game had Abraham not hit the post
I also get the impression that the players are walking all over him and because his CV is pretty poor there is very little respect for him. I am not saying they should be scared to death like they were with Jose but he seems to really lack authority by the looks of it.
We really need to appoint a more forward thinking manager who is also tactically astute in both winning and losing situations, look I am not saying that is easy to find but we need to find one before we drift completely off the face of the earth.
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How else would they speak about him? In the first person? Other than that, very good post.
Let's get it right, we came 2nd in Jose's last full season,it may an inconvenient truth for your Ole defence, but it still the truth.
We didn't get Klopp because that joker Woody from Toy Story sold the club as an adult version of Disneyland, he just basically laughed in our faces and don't blame him one bit for doing that because after all we are a Mickey Mouse organisation.
Pep unfortunately did not understand what Fergie was trying to ask him in that infamous dinner meeting in New York way back in 2012 and then that let City in to get the Barca backroom boys into City and get their feet under the table in preparation for Pep to be eventually appointed as manager.
I would have loved to have heard the verdict of Jose and Roy
Agreed
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