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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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He has a massive job on his hands.
He needs to be ready for a massive rebuild and more importantly we need to have an identity and a way of playing. We play about 3 systems a game atm. I hope he eventually reverts back to the high press football we played at the beginning of his reign.
He needs to be ready for a massive rebuild and more importantly we need to have an identity and a way of playing. We play about 3 systems a game atm. I hope he eventually reverts back to the high press football we played at the beginning of his reign.
He's still a pretty huge unknown for us, which worries me. We were pretty lucky against PSG and in a few games earlier, e.g. against Spurs. It's looking like a very real possibility that we'll end the season with no CL and no real deep runs in any cups, and it worries me just how OGS is going to be in the transfer window.
I'm personally not a fan of hiring legends as managers. Don't get me wrong, OGS has been good for us and I'm not bashing him, but he is a very big unknown in the football world and this could all very easily go tits up, and we'll have ended up wasting another season or two.
I'm personally not a fan of hiring legends as managers. Don't get me wrong, OGS has been good for us and I'm not bashing him, but he is a very big unknown in the football world and this could all very easily go tits up, and we'll have ended up wasting another season or two.
But he gets credit for all the early wins?
Look, let's not panic. We've given him the job now, and we need to stick with it. It's not like there are many better candidates right now. We're an average squad and we need to see what OGS can do in the market.
Just hope some of the people who were parroting 'Ole's at the wheel' and demanding his appointment think before typing next time. Some of the comments on OGS have been an embarrassment - support doesn't equal blind loyalty.
Just hope some of the people who were parroting 'Ole's at the wheel' and demanding his appointment think before typing next time. Some of the comments on OGS have been an embarrassment - support doesn't equal blind loyalty.
Can't really blame the manager. 3 individual mistakes led to 2 goals and a red card.
I don't mind having a British core, I respect tradition. But let's not shoot ourselves in the foot, Lingard was absolute shit today and it was blind favoritism from Ole.
Yes totally agree with this. That's the way I saw it as well.
Let down by some key players, but in a funny way it's better to have this happen now than next season. Let's get a good transfer window and then pre-season and see how we get on.
We stopped thinking about top four a long time ago only for Ole to give us hope so let's not start getting down on him. Ship out the shit players, those who want to be elsewhere and those that are mentally weak and let's start afresh.
Coulda shoulda woulda. We didn’t and we’ve lost again.
Ole didn’t react to Wolves’ changes whereas Santo reacted to ours. Once they began taking up wider positions and isolating that muppet right back of ours they managed the game well after that.
They let us have the bell when we went down ten and had multiple counter opportunities (same way they beat us in the cup) they’ve got a semi final in a few days they had no reason to chase us.
Only Doherty, Moutinho and Neves would get into our team. So for Wolves to have produced these two wins in the last few weeks it points to the managers and tactics.
Although it’s not too much a slight on Ole because Santo is a top coach.
Truth hurts doesn't it.
The manager was not to blame for that result, tactically we were doing well and were creating chances. The team went to shit when we conceded. If two CB's and a RB are not our priority next season this team is not going anywhere.
Jesus give him a transfer window at least before you all start to slate him....
He has done well to have us in the mix for top four, but my concern is that I dont find his philosophy attractive or I don’t have an idea what it is. It seems the result we had earlier on when we would thump teams was a result of a new manager bounce, moreso than Ole’s management. Eitherway, I m willing to give him a full season regardless of how things turn out this season. Some of Ole result reminded me of Di Mateo and Ranieri performances. But, I am not ruling out that he can still be a success here.
He's running out of magic, when he started he had an inspired Pogba and Rashford scoring for fun. Now that Pogba is playing shit we are back to reality, there was no way we could keep up with the results that doesn't surprise me.
What botters me is the way we are performing, we've got better results than we deserve and we just gave him a 3 year contract.
Lastest Results:
Arsenal 2-0 Utd (we deserved better, a draw)
Wolves 2-1 Utd (we should had lost by a greater difference)
United 2-1 Watford (we should had lost that game)
Wolves 2-1Utd (deserved lost)
The way we are perfoming we should have got 1 draw and 3 defeats, Ole is a rookie manager with a lot to prove and the pressure is piling up, specially with Pogba underperforming I think Ole is not going to do something about it. Now that the hooneymoon is over I'm truly worried the players might eat up Ole, I know Guardiola and Zidana were rookies as well but Guardiola clearly had a revolutionary system to implement and Zidane was a bigger player than anyone on that Real Madrid squad, Ole is not on that level of recognition.
What botters me is the way we are performing, we've got better results than we deserve and we just gave him a 3 year contract.
Lastest Results:
Arsenal 2-0 Utd (we deserved better, a draw)
Wolves 2-1 Utd (we should had lost by a greater difference)
United 2-1 Watford (we should had lost that game)
Wolves 2-1Utd (deserved lost)
The way we are perfoming we should have got 1 draw and 3 defeats, Ole is a rookie manager with a lot to prove and the pressure is piling up, specially with Pogba underperforming I think Ole is not going to do something about it. Now that the hooneymoon is over I'm truly worried the players might eat up Ole, I know Guardiola and Zidana were rookies as well but Guardiola clearly had a revolutionary system to implement and Zidane was a bigger player than anyone on that Real Madrid squad, Ole is not on that level of recognition.
Reality is this squad isn't good enough. I mean, I would literally swap man for man our midfield with wolves.
Doesn't matter who is in charge tbh. Yes Ole had a response from them, but let's be honest, alot of our squad is average as feck.
Doesn't matter who is in charge tbh. Yes Ole had a response from them, but let's be honest, alot of our squad is average as feck.
You say how club should have wait end of season and make a call = shitting on Ole, make sense. Dear God.
If the manager is being let down by key players. Then surely he should be pushing the board for a full revamp just like Zidane was at Madrid. Woodward and the clowns need to realise even if we have Pep we would win feck all with this lot. Big money needs to be spent and a lot of dross needs to be shown the door. More ruthless ness is needed at the club. Ole needs to show it in the summer. I thought Van Gaal and Mourinho would show it, but they kept the likes of Young and Jones.
But he seems to get credit for the goals that do go in - to the extent that all other candidates are tossed out the window. So surely he can take some blame for the losses?
You agreed he was the right man for the job a few days ago, now after one defeat you're getting all righteous about other people wanting him to get the job? Laughable really.
Lets start a new war. Instead of Jose licker vs Jose haters how about those who shouted Ole at the wheel against you sane ones?
What truth?
I’m disappointed we’ve lost, but because I’m fairly intelligent and know what I’m talking about I can assess the match rationally.
I’d suggest you try and do the same. Or masturbate into your Mourinho bedsheets. Your choice, I suppose.
Honestly, even though I've criticised the odd thing, I'm still fine with his appointment despite him not being my first choice. With that said, I totally get why some aren't so keen, which is fair, so I don't like how said posters are getting ranted at for having a reasonable opinion.
In the end we all just want what's best for United here so we should respect eachothers opinion.
He'll be our permanent manager for the upcoming season, and he'll have the support of all of us, but since he's the permanent manager it's pretty logical to start worrying about his in game management, which doesn't look that great. Him dealing with the red card was god awful.
That's not to excuse the terrible players or the trash attitude of the squad, but he's not blameless tonight.
That's not to excuse the terrible players or the trash attitude of the squad, but he's not blameless tonight.
Agreed. The big concern is if Woodward has got Ole in on the cheap to placate the fans with memories of '99, and he has no intention of addressing the glaring holes in our squad, the we'll be here again in a few years time asking if Ole's race is run when he's failed to get us back challenging for the top honours.
Lingard stays on for 75+min is horrible man management. He always keeps Lingard on despite his contribution being so poor.
Pep had the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and that guy called Messi.
Zidane had a brilliant team too.
Maybe the silver lining of a poor finish will be Ole realizes he can’t trust half this lot and starts a clear out.
Sure you can blame the manager when the team gets dominated or outclassed tactically. But I'm not sure what he can do about missed sitters and 3 individual mistakes that led directly to 2 goals and red card.
I'm still behind him. Just the way people got all giddy and tried to shout down anyone who tried to make a counter-point, that's the annoying thing.
Slightly concerning he thought that was a great performance. First 30 mins yeah but come on, we were wank.
We looked good when teams let us counter attack, now that they’ve figured that out we look terrible.
As much as I love Ole., there was no need to make the announcement, wait until the end of the season and then assess. We have looked like a Mourinho team since PSG. The worrying thing is it’s been a few games on the bounce now.
We chose the wrong time to lose form. We just need an easy game to build up some momentum but given Barcelona is next that doesn’t look like it’ll come anytime soon.
He rightly received plaudits for our performances early on, so he is also at least partly to blame for the loss in form. You can’t have it one way. Especially as when Mourinho was here the consensus was the team is far better than they were playing - performances similar to recently.
We do need an overhaul though, too many players not good enough. Why Young is playing as a RB rather than Dalot is beyond me. Dalot is the far more attaching and technical threat. Which is what top teams need in their fullback positions.
Upsetting that CL football looks almost impossible now, but it is what it is. We move forward from here. I expect us to have difficulty holding onto some of the few actual useful players in our squad without CL football. Hopefully we replace them well, not holding my breath though.
As much as I love Ole., there was no need to make the announcement, wait until the end of the season and then assess. We have looked like a Mourinho team since PSG. The worrying thing is it’s been a few games on the bounce now.
We chose the wrong time to lose form. We just need an easy game to build up some momentum but given Barcelona is next that doesn’t look like it’ll come anytime soon.
He rightly received plaudits for our performances early on, so he is also at least partly to blame for the loss in form. You can’t have it one way. Especially as when Mourinho was here the consensus was the team is far better than they were playing - performances similar to recently.
We do need an overhaul though, too many players not good enough. Why Young is playing as a RB rather than Dalot is beyond me. Dalot is the far more attaching and technical threat. Which is what top teams need in their fullback positions.
Upsetting that CL football looks almost impossible now, but it is what it is. We move forward from here. I expect us to have difficulty holding onto some of the few actual useful players in our squad without CL football. Hopefully we replace them well, not holding my breath though.
what?I think it is actually a bit of a myth that we have played well under Solskjaer.
We were poor in all these games: Wolves, Watford, Wolves (FA Cup), Southampton, PSG (Yes, it was a great result but it was not a good performance), PSG (First leg - diabolical), Newcastle, Burnley, Leicester.
I feel a lot of poor performances have been disguised by the results. This is why I felt this appointment is premature as I believed results would start to reflect the performances, which they have started to do now.
People hark back to the games against Cardiff and Huddersfield, but they are relegation fodder. You don't get much credit for smashing those teams no matter what.
We were poor in all these games: Wolves, Watford, Wolves (FA Cup), Southampton, PSG (Yes, it was a great result but it was not a good performance), PSG (First leg - diabolical), Newcastle, Burnley, Leicester.
I feel a lot of poor performances have been disguised by the results. This is why I felt this appointment is premature as I believed results would start to reflect the performances, which they have started to do now.
People hark back to the games against Cardiff and Huddersfield, but they are relegation fodder. You don't get much credit for smashing those teams no matter what.
Ok let’s assume we finish 6th our performances continue deteriorating like they have done for the last 6 games or so. Do you not think we would have been in far better place to make a judgment on ole becoming the permanent manager at that point.
Like it or not it’s the cheap option that the glazers grabbed when 95% of fans were behind it, they knew things could change by the end of the season, so they took their opportunity early.
Ole is a huge risk and should only have been given the job upon achievement at the end of the season, this may well have cost us a contract we promised to someone else (a manager with a proven track record) but it would have been on the back of an actual achievement by ole not on the premise of something that might happen.
So in essence we should have gone for a permanent manager no matter what and at worst let them down should Ole exceed expectations at the end of the season. Basic business but apparently not for Ed.
Love Ole. Think/know he's the right man for the job. But he's working with a sub-standard squad that isn't his.
It's one thing to close a 10 point gap. It's another thing to keep that going with this team. Even then, should have been two or three up early on. But most of the players aren't good enough. OGS knows this.
It's one thing to close a 10 point gap. It's another thing to keep that going with this team. Even then, should have been two or three up early on. But most of the players aren't good enough. OGS knows this.
BUt what if we get completely outclassed for 90 (or 180) minutes and then just happen to put away a bobble by a keeper and get a 94th minute penalty? It's fine to credit him for that?
The Jones sub had us attacking and looking fairly dangerous, even with ten men. He couldn't account for Smalling switching off causing us to concede a second from a fairly innocuous cross.
You could argue that Boly, Jimenez and Jota should be added to that list.
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