This loss is on De Gea. He has been bang average on the whole this season. Has games where his shot stopping is unbeatable, but his command, positioning and distribution aren't even average. Let him go before his stock falls.
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This loss is on De Gea. He has been bang average on the whole this season. Has games where his shot stopping is unbeatable, but his command, positioning and distribution aren't even average. Let him go before his stock falls.
The probably with Pogba is he is typically either a 8-10/10 or a 4-5/10 and the top end is maybe only 40% of games. He provides nothing in a lot of games.
Agreed limited wing back options, but Shaw and Dalot should be starting option most games. I'd prefer Darmain to Young, at least he can defend.
Instead of Pogba, yes you are right there are limited options, but Pogba has offered pretty much nothing in the last 4 games. So something else has to be tried. And no not Mata, he needs to be retired.
Twice in two weeks outthought and outfought by Wolves and Santo. Have to be concerned with that. Once Wolves got to grips with our formation and equalised they were comfortable.
Totally agree with you. There was always that possibility that our form drops off, we finish 6th in the league and get comfortably beaten by Barcelona. Hopefully neither of these things will happen, but to give him the contract now just never seemed right. I think it's also fair to say there was no chance he was going to sign with another club if we waited on making a decision.
Players missed sitters and made individual mistakes under Mourinho as well, didn't stop him getting slaughtered (and rightly so). It's an irrelevant point
Plus Darmian is injured as well, I think. But, I agree with your assessment here.
Pogba is still better than anyone else in that midfield. You have to play him and hope he can have a good match.
Took this team as far as he could but huge holes this team has are not starting to be obvious.
The one who's name shouldn't be mentioned said similar things.
The one who's name shouldn't be mentioned said similar things.
We need a huge summer.
Not just in transfers, but in our preparation too. We need to work our butts off this summer in our match prep for next season.
If Woodward/board aren't willing to spend though, they're complete buffoons.
Not just in transfers, but in our preparation too. We need to work our butts off this summer in our match prep for next season.
If Woodward/board aren't willing to spend though, they're complete buffoons.
Being very harsh here, I think. The team was set up well and should've killed the game off after 20 minutes. Both Lukaku and Lingard missed relative straightforward chances.
I'll go back to the point I've made in other threads. We simply don't have the players, especially, in defence that can be relied upon consistently. Smalling and Jones have never been good enough and it's a black mark on the state of the club that neither we shipped out years ago.
I'll go back to the point I've made in other threads. We simply don't have the players, especially, in defence that can be relied upon consistently. Smalling and Jones have never been good enough and it's a black mark on the state of the club that neither we shipped out years ago.
Looking on the bright side, if recent tough results show Ole the true state of our squad I think that’s a good thing - I’d almost rather that, and not get top 4, than somehow carry on riding the unicorn wave and not have the board realise they’ve got to back Ole.
He's done well to have us fighting for top 4. Nothing much has changed footballing wise but that's not unexpected, going forward he'll still have to be prove his footballing IQ chops.
Playing against 10 for 35mins helped every so slightly too.
They didn't "outthink" us.
fecking hell
It's incredibly frustrating!
Ole is fine...As I've said, whatever about his ability as a coach and tactician, he will without doubt install the correct mentality back into the club/players.
However, whether it's his decision or one that is made upstairs, if some of these players are kept beyond the summer, I genuinely fear for the next 10 years
Jesse Lingard is Lee Sharpe zero
The barometer for a United midfielder is Keane, Scholes, Robson...Pogba is not getting anywhere near that level
I really do fear
Really unsure how I feel. The window is massive, we need so much work, and if we don't get it, he's not a miracle worker.
Condescending shit? What like you did when you asked if I watched the game?
Is this your first day in the real world or something? If you going to be an arsehole expect people to be an arsehole back to you
It’s not an irrelevant point at all. And for your information I was what’s being called a Mourinho fan on here.
I still belive our team lacks serious quality regardless of who is in charge.
The last few years have shown that when we miss the top 4, that prompts a proper big spending spree.
It's certainly going to take something special, unless we can field our best 11 every week, and they can keep that early high intensity up from his first games.
If Ole does something with Pogba then my estimation of him would go up massively. He has already dropped Matic for being poor multiple games in a row, so has to do something with Pogba being ineffective. Either play him deeper with Mata through the middle, or drop him.
at the thread titleDon't think he was out thought tonight. We matched their shape and dominated early on. We should've been 3-0 up but one slip and we concede and the players aren't mentally strong enough to sort it out. Tactics wasn't a problem tonight.
They could have planned during the season itself.
I don't think there's any direction with the club at the moment.
Ole did well, fell into their lap and they decided to make him the manager.
Worrying how bad we've become again. This squad needs stupidly huge investment to get them back to the top. I'm not sure he'll get what he needs.
I fear that his strange relying on absolutely average players like Lingard and Jones will hinder his tenure, even this early. Absolutely criminal to let Lingard waste a slot for 90 minuted and being absolutely shit, and putting Jones to steady the ship. Wtf Ole
To those who demanded Solskjaer be given the job after five games and shouted down anyone who disagreed - how do you feel now guys?
Well then if you were defending Mourinho then you should have learnt your lesson by now, players miss 'sitters' all the time it shouldn't define how a game goes or be used as an excuse
Who is available?
We sacked Jose in December that should have give us plenty of time to prepare a plan a, plan b.... plan bloody Z. Come on get real we’re the biggest club in the world and we’re going into another season where we already know the outcome.
I don't think United's squad is top 4 quality, so don't expect Solskjaer to keep performing miracles with these players.
He needs backing in the summer and then we can start to criticize his performance game after game. At the moment it's all momentum based and some players he may not necessarily rate have to play due to the lack of options.
Just have patience.
Just have patience.
Fine. It has nothing todo with him. He got today right. Its not his fault that Fred and Young shit the bed
If we had taken our chances we should have won.
having said that some of the performances were poor. Pogba was god damn awful. Ashley Young was terrible. Lingarrd was not great.
Badly need a new RB who is calm and controlled on the ball unlike Young. RW as well.
Seriously questioning Pogba as well. His workrate is terrible. The Wolves midfield outworked him tonight like they did in the FA cup.
having said that some of the performances were poor. Pogba was god damn awful. Ashley Young was terrible. Lingarrd was not great.
Badly need a new RB who is calm and controlled on the ball unlike Young. RW as well.
Seriously questioning Pogba as well. His workrate is terrible. The Wolves midfield outworked him tonight like they did in the FA cup.
It’s a valid point to ask if you watched the game. It did not seem that way from your comments. Maybe we live in different universes
We lack quality regardless of the manager
IMO the tactics was good and we should have won the game
Individual errors (sending off and Fred for the goal) ruins the game
And we lacked composure to take our chances
Bit shits subs, but I'm not sure what do you want him to do. It's the individual mistakes that costed us tonight. Our squad depth is just non existent but that's not really up to him is it.
Let's not forget he's dragged us from 6th and out of it to being in a position to qualify for the Champions league.
The real targets should be the players, they've lost form and the likes of Young, Fred and the usually reliable De Gea fecked up this evening.
The real targets should be the players, they've lost form and the likes of Young, Fred and the usually reliable De Gea fecked up this evening.
Pretty much this. Most are worried that our recent past will come back to haunt us.
As I’ve just said we sacked Jose in December. That gave us plenty of time to put plenty of contingency plans in place but not Ed!! No no he knows better. How many more shocking decisions does this man have to make?
We've always had a British core but let's hope it doesn't turn into a British bias. Rashford, Lingard , Jones and Young can be gash on their bad days and need to be pulled off or even benched
Are we? You have no idea what's going to happen in the summer. The line from the club is that we're looking to bring in a technical director and we've a number of transfer targets in mind.
We've undoubtedly spoken to a number of potential candidates, and it just so happens that Solskjaer has emerged as the prime choice.
I just don't get the logic you're using here. We've made an appointment in plenty of time, but somehow that's a worse decision than leaving it until the season's over, and then desperately trying to hire someone before too much of the pre-season and summer window have passed us by.
We're in a situation now where we can begin negotiations for new signings and selling deadwood in time for the transfer window opening, rather than either doing nothing until we hire someone, or sign players that a new manager might not want.
The nonsense posts have started already it seems.
Ole has been really good since he's come in to try and sort out this rabble, but he'll still be blamed for everything that goes wrong.
How many managers do we need to go through before we can all agree that the players aren't good enough?
Ole has been really good since he's come in to try and sort out this rabble, but he'll still be blamed for everything that goes wrong.
How many managers do we need to go through before we can all agree that the players aren't good enough?
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