I think ideally what the board want is Ole to survive the season and lead us to a 4th place showing. I think at that point, surprisingly, we may see the board sound out Pochettino or Ten Hag. While I share in the cynicism generally of the glazers, I do think they expect a title challenge and a trophy for Ole to continue. If he can’t lead us further than that then they’ll pull the trigger at the end of the season like they did with Van Gaal.
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Thats what i hope as well. Of all the potential replacements who have been named, Ten Haag is the one that excites me the most, by some distance as well.
So hopefully we have a decent season and get CL football, Ole gets replaced and everyone is happy
I argue do they have better teams. Biggest advantage of having top manager is that they make players better. Look at lots of players in those teams who play week after week. Would you take them in United? Stones, Jesus, Henderson, Keita, Jota, Kovacic, Christensen, Kovacic, Havertz etc etc...they look much better than they are because they play in excellent system with rigid patterns of play.
We’re forever stuck in an Ole boom bust cycle. Never ending torture.
With Conte going to Spurs he’s here until the summer there’s no other candidates for the job at this moment in time.
He needs to get the technical players into the team that starting 11 with our squad of players is a joke. It beat spurs but over 30 games that remain this season we won’t make top 4.
He needs to get the technical players into the team that starting 11 with our squad of players is a joke. It beat spurs but over 30 games that remain this season we won’t make top 4.
This. Bad spell, top manager available, he wins few games, top manager signs for other club, bad spell and so on.
When he survived this october he will survive anything. We ate stuck with him unless he miss top 4. Which he will not. With this squad, 99% of managers would get top4
Liverpool, City and Chelsea squad is not defintively better than United starting 11. They have better managers which raises the profile of their players to get them to perform at a much higher level. When people compare Solskjaer with rivals they need to stop using the analysis of players but rather the terminology of the word "levels". No different to how Mayweather outed his opponents it wasn't about their qualities they could be faster, stronger, taller but rather that Floyd was a higher level to who he fought.
Same regards with Ole he's not at the level required for United to challenge but the team is. We have a situation where the team is considerably better than the offerings of the manager.
Totally lost confidence in Solskjaer, after signing a world class defender, one of the best wide players for their age and one of the most prolific goalscorers in the history of football, the best thing Ole has done to accommodate balance is a 3-5-2 to be robust. Solskjaer, Carrick, McKenna and Phelan don't have the collective intelligence or vision to give the team a foundation or directive to play as a unit. This is why the team is inconsistent because the leaders are at odds with one another, what we see match day is the reflection of what's happening on the training ground and all it does is warrant more questions.
If we lose tomorrow I think he's gone. Even though perversely looking at the group we'll likely only be a point off the top I don't think they'll want to go into the City game with him in charge knowing the anger and furore there'll be if we lose. If we go in with a caretaker then even if we don't win the fans will be more understanding. If we win then there'll be no choice - they've put themselves in a position where we'll need to lose again in order to justify their decision to get rid - which is ridiculous but there we are.
Good article here on the Ole situation.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...hat-the-solskjaer-comedy-rumbles-on-1.4715399
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...hat-the-solskjaer-comedy-rumbles-on-1.4715399
There is zero chance he gets sacked before the City game.
He will be absolutely buzzing his biggest threat is going to be off the table tomorrow by the sounds of it
When you look how he got a job and everything what happened in these 3 years, he is the luckiest managers ever. His luck never ends
I don’t think City, Pool and Chelsea have better squad than us. We should definitely be in the competition for the title until the end.
A win against Tottenham was critical for Ole’s survival. He handled that challenge perfectly, but he also needs a win or a draw against City. Most of all because we need it to stay in the race, but also because it’s City and he have to prove last match wasn’t a bluff.
Ole still balance on the edge, but he will secure his job with a good performance against City, at least until we’re outside the fight for the title.
United as a minimum have to stay in the CL and PL race until April if Ole wants to stay in position. The game against Pool was a wake-up call for the board, and I hope they now are prepared if Ole fails to keep us in the race.
As long as we are in the race, it’s no reason to be hysterical. A win against City will change everything.
A win against Tottenham was critical for Ole’s survival. He handled that challenge perfectly, but he also needs a win or a draw against City. Most of all because we need it to stay in the race, but also because it’s City and he have to prove last match wasn’t a bluff.
Ole still balance on the edge, but he will secure his job with a good performance against City, at least until we’re outside the fight for the title.
United as a minimum have to stay in the CL and PL race until April if Ole wants to stay in position. The game against Pool was a wake-up call for the board, and I hope they now are prepared if Ole fails to keep us in the race.
As long as we are in the race, it’s no reason to be hysterical. A win against City will change everything.
It astounds me that this early in the season we hear talk of writing the season off and reassess things in the summer. Let's be proactive for a change everyone knows the ending to this story. On a side note will be interested to see how he manages to get Sancho into the team if he sticks to last week's formation . We may not win anything of importance but I'd say being in the "fourth place trophy and the most expensive bench cup" would be considered a decent return on the 100's of millions invested.
We know ole wont be elading us on a title challenge this season so waiting to get a good manager in is just a waste of time
He'll drop out of the top 4 eventually, then he'll have to be sacked. Hopefully our board will come to their senses and do it before he has a chance to do that though.
He will be here for a while yet, while we are top 4 he will be going nowhere. Hopefully we can go on a run of results, get through the next couple of games and things won’t look so dark.
Hopefully we stick with 352 and get a little more success going forward.
Hopefully we stick with 352 and get a little more success going forward.
There is no chance he gets sacked before the break. I honestly thought the club were waiting for the break to sack him with a pre agreement with conte but that was giving them too much credit.
If we lose our next two I expect the clubs pr team to go in hyperdrive over the break. Reality is they bottled sacking him after Liverpool and have now lost the best alternative as they fear a repeat of Jose - a manager who will openly question them.
Look, that's not my assessment but it's clearly the clubs.
Agree with you but Tuchel isn't one of the three best mangers in the world. Conte, Simeone and Zidane are ahead of him. Before Tuchel joined Spurs, everyone felt City and Liverpool had the two untouchables and then Tuchel goes and beats them both to the CL. No issue with the rest.
He's not going anywhere for a good few months now I reckon. They've backed him and rode the storm so now there's actually no big name who is available. We're just delaying the inevitable before making another poor hiring as is our way.
plastic filth comparing him to Hitler on twitter now.
He's not on the bloody edge with our joke of a board and general sentimental approach, oh yeah and also the small fact that there is now NO ONE available to take the job in the middle of this season
So easy to wash your hands of this club right now with the complete lack of ambition from all sides
We were playing a struggling Spurs side who scored less then a goal per game this season. So I am not sure we will be any better in few weeks.
Managers will easily out thought this new genius formation Ole invented.
Our coaching team is second class and the players know it.
Let’s be honest, we are abysmal this season and even against Spurs we scored from an half a chance as there is no many players who scores what Ronaldo scored and the 2 other goals were errors when this horrible Spurs side chased the game.
Let’s see the United way against City !
What or who is this?
Conte
Yeah will be some party in the Solskjaer household tonight with that news
Ole is so lucky.
I agree that Liverpool and City have better 11's and better managers.
But what manager that is available could challenge City and Pool with a worse 11?
None. Ole coming 2nd was a bit of a fluke but also not something a shit manager could pull off
I am pretty sure we would never get spanked by Liverpool at home with Conte…but that option is gone now.
What worries me the most is that after 3 years there is no patterns of play, there’s not a goal you could tell is typical from that team or manager. That was the case of a lot of goals we scored under SAF, you could tell it was the United identity. As it is the case for Pep or Klopp.
So we could say that we are no better then the some of our parts.
I think we finished 3rd and second purely because of the quality of the players.
And that’s why Ole doesn’t trust most of the squad. He relies on individual talent so the players can’t be replaced like they were a cog in a system, while Pep or SAF always rest some players and have a high turnover without big consequences.
Yeah but no worries because looks like he's more important to the club than our big players which is a sad state of affairs
It is when the rivals were so far gone. Poch finishes second with Spurs people complain about his mentality. Ole does the same he deserves credit another ridiculous double standard. The real amalgamation of Solskjaer finishing second is that United were top of the league and the manager said in an interview the team couldn't win the league despite being first. Last season was a missed opportunity, more than anything everyone was off the mark including City. I doubt we will see in the near future another campaign where so many top clubs were woeful.
Make of it what you will but Solskjaer is doing nothing but coasting in his career in management. He's going to have another undefined season with no real progression. Unless a miracle comes along the way.
I don’t see it at all. Hitler was a master tactician.
Heartbreakingly what we are left to accept these days
Yeah, I was gutted about that. We crumbled as soon as we went first and had a bad run.
What shocks me when I think about it is that Ole was speaking about how United is about trophies and all when he arrived but as soon as we were in the mix, he downplayed our chances. He doesn’t have the nerves to be our manager.
It’s easy to talk when there’s nothing at stake.
Ole would be rock bottom.
He wouldn’t get another top league job outside of Scandinavia. We’re the running joke of European football.
This idea of this is hilarious
Does anyone else cringe like hell when our accounts on social media call him “The boss” maybe its just because it doesn’t feel like he’s good enough to be called that but i just have this irrational cringe feeling
This idea of this is hilarious
Yeah all of our MUTV clowns are on the guestlist along with Neville, Mitten and any old players and managers too, think I heard that some of the top reds and hardcore matchgoers might be getting last minute invites too
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