FFS he assembled this team, he spent 470m euros on this squad. He should go and feck himself with his 2000 years old tactics, his negativity and his fecking miserable face.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I don't really have a choice but to back him. I support Man Utd, thus in turn I want him to do well.
I'll try and spell it out as simply as possible, though I suspect you're being willfully ignorant and we're approaching a kind of 'Cult of Ole' mindset here, rather than a proper conversation...
I want him to be a good enough manager to lead Utd back to the top.
I don't think he is a good enough manager to lead Utd back to the top.
These two statements are not mutually exclusive, so take a minute before wading in again.
Most fans would have the same stance as you with regards to his ability and its absolutely fair to think that he is not good enough.
But calling for him to be sacked at this point like you want is not going to help the club in anyway and that's where the "Cult of Ole" disagree with you.
Ole troubles started when everyone started to get injured. I remember 10 injuries at once. That might be due to the fitness of the players and Oles playstyle, and I think also the latest losses and bad performances is due to that fact. So, naysayers, shouldn't Ole have a fit squad with the correct properties for his playstyle before you cast tour allmighty judgement? That means the next season in my opinion, including summer and winter transfer window. It is impossible to do what he wants in less time, he propably needs 2 seasons since the changes are going to be massive both squadwise and regarding fitness/playstyle/tactics.
Who do you think is good enough that we could have got?
That's not my job, and it opens the door for more digression rather than discussing Ole as manager.
I will say, as I've said before, that I firmly believe most PL managers in the top 10 are better coaches than Solskjaer... and I question whether or not Ole is actually a PL level manager at all.
Hence my belief that the board should correct the decision in the Summer.
As long as he only plays as a 10 then sure but as a RW.... Feck off.
Only United can buy a top no.10 and play him at RW
, maybe we're thinking of converting him to RB?It's a shame that all his talk about being ruthless and having a survival of the fittest policy was just hot air. It actually got my hopes up for a bit.
Guess contract extensions are his decisions.
New Arsenal innit
Aside from mostly being underwhelming, not really sure how he fits in this whole new high-pressing style we all think Ole wants to play next season.
It could indicate not many players coming in and that we will prioritize other positions which is somewhat understandable. If that's the case, hope it is a short contract.
It could indicate not many players coming in and that we will prioritize other positions which is somewhat understandable. If that's the case, hope it is a short contract.
At home when we have majority of the ball, playing Mata on the right isn’t that much of a problem, so long as he has a number 10 and RB to link with. Play without a 10 and he’s going to struggle.
Mine too! We are turning into a jobs for the boys club under Solskjaer. I cringe when he refers to Rashford as “Rashers”. Reminds me of when Steve McLaren would call Steven Gerrard “Stevie G” as England manager in interviews - shudder!
Ole: Ruthless clearout
Also Ole: Mata and Rojo are welcome here next year
Also Ole: Mata and Rojo are welcome here next year
"Ruthless approach - 10 in 10 out" indeed. Except we also give mediocre players new contract.
Not sure what the squad Ole inherited and Jose inherited has anything to do with the topic in discussion. Did he get even a single transfer window to fix the issues? Solskjaer got benefit of the doubt because of his start and also the fact that he was appointed mid season and didn't sign a single player.
Van Gaal won only 3 games in first 11, losing 4 (including the hammering against MK Dons, Leicester City and losing to Swansea at home) and drew 4 games.
In first 10 league games we made just 13 points. He still deserved benefit of doubt (even though he has preseason and signed many players) as he just started. He wasn't judged based on that initial bad run.
Jose in his first season went on a run, 11 games (league games), won 2, lost 3, drew 6. He also one more patch when we didn't win a game in 5 league games. He wasn't judged on that as it was his first season.
Every manager needs time and also signings. Right now Ole got nothing. Other 2 managers were judged only in their second season when they got enough time and the team they wanted.
I guess we can put the survival of the fittest and the best to bed now
These kinds of interviews are not helping him garner more support from the fans.
When will any fecker at this club realize that we need quality? Hell they can't let go really. Nobody wants our players but we give them som much importance that goes into their heads.
When will any fecker at this club realize that we need quality? Hell they can't let go really. Nobody wants our players but we give them som much importance that goes into their heads.
Come on people, when listing the players that need to go, so many come before mata. Hes still a good player, shouldbt be starting but will be useful with so many games next season, a good professional and can definitely offer something different from bench.
A 1 year extension makes perfect sense.
A 1 year extension makes perfect sense.
I suppose when we have no choice, we just put whatever spin we can on it to comfort ourselves.
Absolutely appalling to keep holding on to players who are past it. If we don't spend well and upgrade our squad this summer, our fans need to organize protests against Woodward and the Glazers.
Great. Let's keep everybody.
If Ole clears out 4 players every window (summer) the next 3 years then he has the backing of the board and he knows what he is on about.
You’re the dream Utd fan for the Glazers. Happy to accept shite. Mata is looking more and more a busted flush, his influence lessens season after season, and next year I expect it to be even worse. We’re willingly keeping so much average dross at the club, it’s no wonder we are where we are.
"Nowhere to hide"
feck off mate
feck off mate
Mata really should be moved on.
It may not be his fault.
I don't remember hearing Ole saying Mata is going to be a first choice player just that he wants him to stay ?
if we are to refresh our squad with younger more hungry players keeping an experienced head around isn't a bad thing in my eyes and think everyone forgets that Mata has been playing out of position.
Give him time Ole will be good for us.
if we are to refresh our squad with younger more hungry players keeping an experienced head around isn't a bad thing in my eyes and think everyone forgets that Mata has been playing out of position.
Give him time Ole will be good for us.
Mata wants parity with Sanchez wages
I didnt and its only a joke
"Nowhere to hide"
feck off mate
He should stick to the clubs of his level like Molde or Cardiff (actually he was out of depth at the latter)
Was the interview on MUTV? I think they have a mantra to say everythings rosy. When he is directly asked the question, that is probably a stock answer. He couldnt say, no hes not what I need and needs moving on.
we offered Mata a contract.
I agree and I also think that Mata is the type of guy that would be good to have around for the younger players, he seems extremely professional and comes across quite grounded. There are definitely a few more that need to be managed out before him.
I kind of feel the same about Herrera, I know he’s probably asking for more than the club are prepared to pay but it’s a shame they can’t come to some sort middle ground because like Mata I imagine they have quite a positive attitude within the club, I don’t think you can underestimate how important players like these are....cue people telling me they’re a pair of cnuts and they’re the reason we’re in this mess.
Everyone please calm sown about Mata. It's only a 1 year extension. Clearly he'll start infrequently, as has been shown since Ole started.
I suspect Ole wants him to stay for his behind the scenes influence - especially on the younger players. It's more strategic than anything else. Also he's good image wise for the club. I have no problem with him staying under these circumstances.
I suspect Ole wants him to stay for his behind the scenes influence - especially on the younger players. It's more strategic than anything else. Also he's good image wise for the club. I have no problem with him staying under these circumstances.
Yes he wants a longer one though, 2 years definite than the 1 year + 1 year if the club wants it thats offered.
Still is he even worth it? How can we ever push the survival of the fittest and the best thing if we keep giving contracts to tripe like Mata, Young and Jones?
Mata is hardly our biggest problem, if we are losing Valencia and Herrera, and then can shift Rojo, Darmian, and Sanchez, plus quite possibly one of the big name players, then that's a lot of players we need to replace, and a lot of business we need to do.
Mata is limited, but a good egg, and probably a great guy to have around the place, and for the odd game here and there, I could even see him as coach here when he retires.
There's plenty to bash Ole about atm, and I've done it, but not sure this one.
Mata is limited, but a good egg, and probably a great guy to have around the place, and for the odd game here and there, I could even see him as coach here when he retires.
There's plenty to bash Ole about atm, and I've done it, but not sure this one.
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