Boohoo then. Throw your toys out the pram because United didn't win a trophy and your mates are slagging you. This is a long term project and fact is Ole, a club legend, has improved year on year. Klopp lost this final to an inferior team a few years back too.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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What exactly does a new manager need to know? Does he need to know how many meals are served a week at Carrington? How many blades of grass make up the pitch? How many shirts are pressed a month?
Rather than a new manager, who knows man utd, coming in, I think we need the current modern day Manchester United to know what a winning manager is like.
Sadly, for many people on this forum there is always an excuse.
Bunch of cry babies, go support another club.
He has been managing since 2008, 2011 for top flight football. He has won 3 top flight trophies I that time. That is 3 trophies in 10 years. So you're right, we won't know how he will react from this - but we can assume, going off his history in a far inferior level of competition, that he won't react too well, given you know, he doesn't win all that often.
It's been 8 years since his last trophy.
Villareal are now a good side? They're a bang average side. We keep losing important one-off games. If it was just one or two, I'd brush it aside. Almost every important one-off game under Ole, we have blown and lost. That is problematic.
If there's a better manager out there, then sacking the manager is the solution. Just look at Chelsea.
Look at Bayern under Kovac. 1000% some on here would have stuck with Kovac.
almost third of a billion spent and 2 and a half years at United.. Immediate impact
The perfect final response when all your arguments are destroyed and you have nothing else to say. Surprised it took you that long to throw this last card.
Tbh by the looks of some of the stuff you are writing it wouldn't surprise me if you already do.
"People don't agree with me, so I'll just call them all cry babies and tell them to support another club"
You must feel so proud.
Anyone claiming we didn't have anyone to come off bench is just lying. We had all the people we need for Villarreal level. But the manager just didn't dare to try. Just sat on his a** all game
Ah yeah. World class managers can lose games because they’re one-off and anything happens in football but if Ole loses a game he’s back to being a useless PE teacher. Where did that Seville side finish in la liga that year by the way? Oh yeah. Seventh.
Glad none of the sentiment in here is reflected at games by match going fans anyway.
Back Ole. Glazers out.
Back Ole. Glazers out.
I get all that but was this season really an improvement on the last? And if so, is that just because last season was so poor? The Europa league is a failure when you start off in the proper one, so we’ve improved a place in the league but have done worse in the domestic cups.
Seville are an inferior team to Villarreal? What you been smoking ? Most would say klopp got to the final with an inferior team to United
What’s that got to do with his ability as a manager?
It's actually true. Childish stance to take.We don't need another £200m, but we need better coaching and better scouting. Fans at top clubs need to understand that throwing money at issues isn't going to make you dominate all the while. Look at how Iago Aspas, Alberto Moreno, and Francis Coquelin got a second chance in Spain. Look at how Lindgard is getting another chance at West Ham.
Because the 'ESL clubs' in EPL are so rich, there is a cut-throat culture that if you don't succeed in the first season, you are out. Spurs fans want Reguillon back to Spain. Liverpool fans wanted Thiago back to Munich before March.
Yes, we don't have a good bench and start chopping and changing isn't the way to go if you want a sustainable club - especially since this club is in perpetual debt by the Glazers.
Sevilla were an inferior team to Liverpool...
Yeah which involves not winning any trophies or challenging for any major ones any time soon. That realisation will dawn, just a tad late on some.
Okay, how about the bit where he called a man who has won more leagues as a manager than burley did as a player a serial loser? Better? 3rd last year. 2nd this year. Give him the squad to challenge and let’s see what happens.
Well yeah, a managers resume to that date has an affect on the amount of leeway he gets. This isn’t a novel concept
As incompetent as the decision makers at the club are, glad it's not some of you calling the shots.
I'm sure Kane has made decision after watching this.
Why wouled fans call the shots? What na odd thing to say. Sounds like something an incompetent person would say.As incompetent as the decision makers at the club are, glad it's not some of you calling the shots.
Glazers and Ole are a match made in heaven. Makes so much sense to them to keep him and cut corners. They don't care about winning, and sadly a large proportion of United fans - neither.
And what’s Ole’s resume at United during the two full seasons he’s been here like in relation to the quality of squad he’s had at his disposal?
Again, nothing to do with Ole’s ability as a manager. Steer this thing in another 100 direction if that makes you happy though.
he was being sarcastic
Well depends on the club, a lot are fan owned you know. What is an incompetent person? Someone unable to wipe their arse?
The trophies Ole as a manager has won are nothing to do with his ability as a manager? Odd.
As shite as ever in the first half and after we'd gone level in the second half reverted back to our standard form instead of kicking on. No identity to our play, no purpose and no tactical input worth squat from the manager. Some on here are delusional enough to believe we can end the season like this and then blow everyone away next season by signing Sancho.
His squad is plenty enough to beat Villarreal whose team consists of a bunch of rejects, most of whom are 30+. VDB would be their star if he played for them.
In your words, jog on, and please come back with better excuses.
sorry if he was being sarcastic. I don't read sarcasm well in texts.
THAT IS ONE feckING GAME - I said two seasons. What is his resume like over two seasons.
The game was lost by bad game management today.
My God, the way people go on about our squad, you'd think he's managing Newcastle or Burnley.
He has done a decent job all things considered. He hasn't done amazing nor poorly.
So many people here were mocking Jose's proclamation then of "finishing 2nd with this team is my biggest achievement" and they're parroting similar lines for Ole now.
They appoint people to run the club. You should know that.Well depends on the club, a lot are fan owned you know. What is an incompetent person? Someone unable to wipe their arse?
No, someone like you who wouldn't know his arse from his mouth given they release the same nonsense.
I think that Ole didn't sub De Gea when penalty shoot-out was close because he didn't want to embarrass De Gea, maybe wanting him to have a redemption, maybe an act of trust. Maybe he didn't want to make De Gea angry. Louis Van Gaal subbed Cilessen out in the 2014 World Cup, right before the penalty shoot-out, and Cilessen was fuming, extremely angry at that.
Not disagreeing with the criticisms against Solskjaer, but it's incredible that such an average manager has such an amazing record against Guardiola. I don't think that even prime Mourinho came close to beat Guardiola as consistently as Solskjaer does (I checked now, Mourinho played 15 games against Guardiola in 2009-2012, but won only 3, though admitedly those three were massive ones). His record against Guardiola is only matched by Klopp, if I'm not mistaken.
In the last 16 european finals between an english club and an spanish one, the spanish team won! If I'm not mistaken, I think that the 2001 Uefa Cup final, Alavés vs. Liverpool, and the 2001 UCL final, Valencia vs. Bayern were the last times that a spanish team ever lost an european final against anyone.
Not disagreeing with the criticisms against Solskjaer, but it's incredible that such an average manager has such an amazing record against Guardiola. I don't think that even prime Mourinho came close to beat Guardiola as consistently as Solskjaer does (I checked now, Mourinho played 15 games against Guardiola in 2009-2012, but won only 3, though admitedly those three were massive ones). His record against Guardiola is only matched by Klopp, if I'm not mistaken.
In the last 16 european finals between an english club and an spanish one, the spanish team won! If I'm not mistaken, I think that the 2001 Uefa Cup final, Alavés vs. Liverpool, and the 2001 UCL final, Valencia vs. Bayern were the last times that a spanish team ever lost an european final against anyone.
Yes. Me asking an appraisal is exactly the same. Has a worse team finished above him in the league? I mean he’s useless so you’d think they would have done right?
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