I know it’s been an endless source of mirth on here (thanks @GlastonSpur!) but the Spurs one is hardly copy-paste. I’ve not been, but it looks pretty impressive inside and out. And it looks like it’s been deliberately designed to avoid the awfulness of the likes of Emirates or Wembley.
Old Trafford revamp/could be torn down and rebuilt according to Glazer plans
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Pre-fabricate steel sections of a tunnel. Knock down South stand. Place steel sections ready where South stand was. Close and remove line, dig down, trains can take a gradient that would take the line below ground level, build tunnel. The line would only be closed for weeks, possibly even just days. Then, with the trains running, build the foundations for a new stand, with a footprint smaller than the actual stand of course, and then build the stand. All with the trains running. I don't suppose it would get planning permission without compulsory purchase of the houses on the other side of the line though. I think Liverpool got that in the end for their expansion, but it took them years to get it.
https://www.heavyliftnews.com/osprey-lifting-on-6-projects-for-network-rail-in-uk/
This is the sort of thing they can do, replace bridges in a weekend if necessary. A massive shopping centre and station development was built over the top of the tracks in Birmingham, that's over one of the busiest stations in Europe, all while the trains were still running, mostly anyway.
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Trusting the Glazers to build a 'better' stadium after knocking down OT gives me anxiety.
If a standard generic bowl makes financial sense, what motivation would the Glazers have to build anything other than that?
If a standard generic bowl makes financial sense, what motivation would the Glazers have to build anything other than that?
Had they done this a season or so ago, Ole would have got an invincible season out of it.
There's still a place for Southern cheese. Fill up the cheese room with Stinking Bishop, have zero ventilation, heat the room constantly to 30 degrees for five years. Whenever a player starts taking the piss have Ten Hag chuck them in for a few minutes until they fix their attitude.
You’re obviously not familiar with the way Network Rail operates. Nor the level of cost involved on even the simplest project. Elf ‘n’ Safety, innit?
Every stadium will get torn down at some point. Might as well be now. It's decades behind as it is.
Still, I like the idea of building a new one elsewhere on the land and using the current one for something else. It will still be there and we won't have to move for the time being. Cheaper, too. Everybody's happy.
All of that being said, nothing of this will ever happen. The Glazers building a new stadium? Real knee-slapper.
Still, I like the idea of building a new one elsewhere on the land and using the current one for something else. It will still be there and we won't have to move for the time being. Cheaper, too. Everybody's happy.
All of that being said, nothing of this will ever happen. The Glazers building a new stadium? Real knee-slapper.
Would love me some Rangers hockey inbtetween matchdays
I don't think they'll be going anywhere near the train tracks by the South stand, too much cost for very little gain. They'll build out towards car park W3 and the Freightliner depot.
The same way other stadiums have done so.
Would it be worth it? We'd have done it by now.
Aah, the stench of fresh bullshit.
Maxwells House™ New Trafford
Probably not.
Though I’m pretty certain it would be possible to increase the size of the Main Stand without doing anything as drastic as you suggest. Maybe not to the same height as the rest of the ground, but worth it nonetheless; particularly if (as is generally agreed would be a Good Thing) the whole of the roof is replaced.
I dare say the cost/benefit of knocking the whole thing down and starting again would be more feasible, sadly.
100% they’d just copy and paste Spurs stadium given the NFL capabilities. The best we could hope for is essentially some aesthetics which honour OT which they’d refer to as a legacy stadium no doubt.
Lies
HS2 is costing £307m per mile. And hardly any of it is in a built up area. The cost of doing anything to the CLC line adjoining OT would be even greater.
Absolutely a fair perspective to have and I think many posters feel the same.
They could get to test out the max potential of acoustics for once
So if they built across the road would they be able to avoid the railway line altogether.
So it's a lick of paint or a bulldoze.
Which road?
There’s plenty of room to build a new stadium without impinging on any existing road, railway or canal. Though having steam trains and prettily painted canal boats running through the new ground might be rather fun…
Yup
Edit: cost wise I’m sure that’s the case. Though improving the existing stadium, with a modest increase in capacity, should be entirely practicable. Good value for the Glazers? Probably not.
Through the middle of the pitch would be a laugh.
A lick of paint and an excuse to sell naming rights.
The Dulux Stadium. Which could easily be changed to another sponsor with two letters if required.
Got to keep it churnin'
What I thought was obvious was that I answered a question on how it might be done rather than how much it would cost, but happy to clarify that for you anyway.
Those miserable gits at FIFA would probably say there’s a rule against it
Fair enough!
And they will, wholesale.
Out of the fecking way, Glazers!
And don't even talk to me about the railway line being a hindrance to expanding the South Stand when Ajax built their entire stadium with a main road running right under it. Just do it without razing anything else from the stadium. Liverpool, Chelsea and Borussia Dortmund found ways to keep their stadiums intact, expand if necessary, and renovate whatever needs to be renovated. Whoever adheres to that idea of tearing down the stadium and rebuilding a new one on top it is extremely short-sighted.
And don't even talk to me about the railway line being a hindrance to expanding the South Stand when Ajax built their entire stadium with a main road running right under it. Just do it without razing anything else from the stadium. Liverpool, Chelsea and Borussia Dortmund found ways to keep their stadiums intact, expand if necessary, and renovate whatever needs to be renovated. Whoever adheres to that idea of tearing down the stadium and rebuilding a new one on top it is extremely short-sighted.
I don't like the thought of it being knocked down. Too much history.
Can't we do what Liverpool did and use the existing stadium then revamp certain sections of it?
Can't we do what Liverpool did and use the existing stadium then revamp certain sections of it?