That‘s right. I used to like Barcelona a lot, being Dutch and supporting Ajax etc, but my eyes have been opened. I think they are a goatfecking mess of a club, and in fact my opinion has plummeted of the whole of Catalunia.
Official: FC Barcelona charged with Corruption over payments to former referees chief | UEFA open investigation
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I’m not saying the lack of quality is down to the punishments, I’m saying fans still associate Juve with cheating all these years later.
They are getting plenty of Karma. Knocked out of CL, knocked out of EL
I'm not talking about City alone as team
City plays in the EPL, PL officials allowed City to financially cheat for many years since Mancini... nobody cares about that, and still watched EPL football despite the UAE cheats being allowed.
The user i quoted is talking as if people will stop watching Barca games cause they cheated buying referees in La Liga, and that's obviously bs.
I have only seen extracts of it.
You may find it here https://www.fiscalia.gob.ec/consulta-de-noticias-del-delito/ but I am not sure.
Bartomeu might end up as the most corrupt person to ever hold office in a big football club. Edging out giants of the "money-under-the-table" legends like Silvio Berlusconi, Sepp Blatter, Platini and Luciano Moggi
And that's mostly online, which represents a minority of football fans compared to the real world.
As time passes most people forget, if it's remembered it's mostly online.
Well, I wouldn't signal him alone. Bertomeu definitely increased Negreira's payments but he also was the one to stop them (although it was just because Negreira stopped being the ref VP).
The previous Barca presidents Rosell, Laporta, Gaspart also paid Negreira.
(No proof of Nuñez yet but according to the prosecution he was involved)
The only thing he did that other Barca presidents didn't was to pay the reporters and media 7.2M€. In the Neymar affair Rosell was also involved, etc.
Platini is only related to the Qatar stuff with Sarkozy, as corrupt he was, he is far from the other people you mentioned.
Joao Havelange and Julio Grondona were 100 times worse than Platini ever was.
So can we have our two champions League wins now!
So I think it's safe to say the Arsenal Van Persie red card in the CL run Vs Barca was because the ref was paid off.
If I had to make a call I’d say that barcas cheating is worse.In a fair world we’d be seeing the end of both Barca and City soon.
At least the actual games city play are above board even if they are playing it with players they shouldn’t have been able to afford.
Barca are playing with a marked deck every single time…….
Haha. Guess they must have not paid off the ref for that leg.
Either way all of Barca's trophies should be Stripped for the period.
There really is no other right thing to do.
Also Peps career couldn't have more of an aestrik on it if he tried at this point. Between his playing career and now two of the teams he has managed.
Though to this point there is no punishment so it does encourage cheating
Take away their CL trophies. Would mean we're just one off Pool.
Our reaction is gonna be interesting. I think Flo will try as much as possible to steer it in the direction of blaming the Nuñistas while keeping Laporta out of it, probably try and spin it as the current barcelona being clean and fine and hanky-dory and should not be punished for the actions of those crooks they elected in the past and they alone should pay
Don't think he'll get his way though. The socios are gonna be baying for Barcelona's blood far more than they care about saving the Superleague. To them, this just confirms what they've known all along - Barcelona cheated - and they won't accept the club doing anything less than demanding their pound of flesh
Don't think he'll get his way though. The socios are gonna be baying for Barcelona's blood far more than they care about saving the Superleague. To them, this just confirms what they've known all along - Barcelona cheated - and they won't accept the club doing anything less than demanding their pound of flesh
Sorry for the question but exactly which institution would declare those trophies illegitimate in case Barcelona are proven guilty?
Because it is my understanding that, at least domestically, there can be no sporting punishment because infringements are subject to a three-year statute of limitations.
Because it is my understanding that, at least domestically, there can be no sporting punishment because infringements are subject to a three-year statute of limitations.
Also this spans a long period of time. Was Laporta not the president during the first Pep era, which falls into this?
It’s honestly strange how you’ve taken this club will be defending Barca stance when nothing of note has come out saying that will be Madrids approach.
The Caf
Yup
Uh? My post specifically says I expect the club to come down hard on them?
My suspicions:
Chelsea vs Barca (That referee)
Barca vs Arsenal (Van Persie's red card)
Man Utd vs Real Madrid (Nani's red card)
Barca vs AC Milan (that Penalty for Barca).
And the xG Official Twitter Account.
Yes,I remember very well Arsenal were clearly dominating that game only to see the red card change the tide in favour of Barca.
My observation over the years is that,the Spanish clubs are favoured in playing against other teams especially English clubs.
Bayern Munich also suffered from similar unfairness when they met Real Madrid some years ago.
Can't count them out obviously. xGRef is a new stat being worked on
Cleats to the chest is no bueno my friend. Clear red card. Even Keane agrees for fck safe!
What? Paying refs?
Oh yeah feel so bad for them…I think it's called sarcasm (aka a joke)....What? Paying refs?
I never get this argument when Barca fans used it when they were pulling millions of levers and also now. I don't get how can you separate the president and what they did for the club from Barcelona as the club themselves.
look at what happened to Serie A when they sent Juventus in Serie B.
Financial decline since then.
If they're smart and they find Barca guilty they'll strip them of whatever they won in the period under scrutiny (if possible) and give them a big points deduction this season + next so that they won't be able to play international games for 3 years. That's if UEFA doesn't give them a ban
I don't either but Flo can employ a team of world class bullshitters if he needs to
How things have swung around, back in the late 2000's and late 2010's barca were the darlings of Europe and real madrid seen as a unpopular arrogant club and now it is the other way round
I’m all for getting the 2015 CL in case… the one going 1-1 at mid second half with Alves fouling Pogba in the box to prevent him getting the ball and them scoring on the counter. I would also gladly accept the 1998 CL in case, just to keep neutrality, the one Madrid robbed us with a Mijatovic offside goal.
Sorry if it’s been mentioned already, but with all the Jones about us getting 2 more Champions Leagues, I thought it was just the Spanish refs they where paying, where they also paying UEFA reffs?
I hated the decision, thought a yellow was much more appropriate but totally get why he got a red. I dont remember the game that well, maybe he was being a prick and giving us nothing for 90mins and it'd look more suspicious in that context but it doesn't really stick out for me.
Rafael's 2nd yellow against Bayern pissed me off way more (also not particularly suspicious on its own)
And in the end it turns out, that Mourinhos paranoia was no paranoia yet, back then. He should sue them for making him the man he is today.
The same way MU fans separate what a Qatar regime represents for Manchester United. Hypocrisy and a lack of a spine.
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good point