Nobody is questioning your loyalty. Fergie's logic of what he wants to do with the squad may be completely different than what the "we need a midfielder" brigade, are thinking. Therefore if we buy one then great. If not, then he obviously thinks he already has the players he needs to proceed.
Nuri Sahin
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Nobody is questioning your loyalty. Fergie's logic of what he wants to do with the squad may be completely different than what the "we need a midfielder" brigade, are thinking. Therefore if we buy one then great. If not, then he obviously thinks he already has the players he needs to proceed.
Yes we do. Keano is doing nothing at the moment, and Robbo is already at the club.
David May might even fancy a game in midfield.
Fair enough.
Must be me getting ready for the new season.
If he isn't buying does that mean petrucci and Powell will be in the first team?
Carrick one of United key players and perhaps one of its most underrated.
He will need to rest from time to time so just need to rejig the formation / tactics when he's not playing.
I feel like a Jewish kid at Christmas.
Marca reporting Fergie's interested, but only in " keeping him for as long as he wants".
http://www.marca.com/2012/08/02/en/football/real_madrid/1343939963.html
FLORENTINO PREFERS TO LOAN HIM OUT FOR A SEASON
Ferguson wants Sahin on a permanent basis
J. IGNACIO GARCÍA-OCHOA. MADRID 08/02/2012
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Nuri Sahin is set to leave Real Madrid in the next few days, but his destination is yet unknown. Most of the interest in the Turk has come from the Premier League, the player's favoured destination, but finalising the deal won't be easy.
The latest team to show its interest in Sahin is Manchester United, a club that interests the player, but whose offer clashes with Real Madrid's interests. Madrid wants to loan Sahin out for a season or, as a worst case scenario sell him with a buy-back option. However, United doesn't think along these lines. Ferguson wants the player and won't consider anything other than signing him and keeping him for as long as he wants.
Florentino Pérez was one of the main advocates of the Turk's transfer to Real Madrid and he doesn't want to part with the player because he has high hopes for him. Mourinho also values Sahin's strengths, but after being out for the whole of last season, he thinks it better for the player to find his form at another club.
Another two Premier League clubs want Sahin. One is Arsenal, the club best placed to sign him. Personal terms between Sahin and Wenger's team have almost been finalised, but the clubs have yet to agree the terms of the transfer. Tottenham is also interested in Sahin, but Real Madrid wanted to include him in the deal for Modric, whilst the Londoners want to keep the two deals separate.
http://www.marca.com/2012/08/02/en/football/real_madrid/1343939963.html
FLORENTINO PREFERS TO LOAN HIM OUT FOR A SEASON
Ferguson wants Sahin on a permanent basis
J. IGNACIO GARCÍA-OCHOA. MADRID 08/02/2012
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Nuri Sahin is set to leave Real Madrid in the next few days, but his destination is yet unknown. Most of the interest in the Turk has come from the Premier League, the player's favoured destination, but finalising the deal won't be easy.
The latest team to show its interest in Sahin is Manchester United, a club that interests the player, but whose offer clashes with Real Madrid's interests. Madrid wants to loan Sahin out for a season or, as a worst case scenario sell him with a buy-back option. However, United doesn't think along these lines. Ferguson wants the player and won't consider anything other than signing him and keeping him for as long as he wants.
Florentino Pérez was one of the main advocates of the Turk's transfer to Real Madrid and he doesn't want to part with the player because he has high hopes for him. Mourinho also values Sahin's strengths, but after being out for the whole of last season, he thinks it better for the player to find his form at another club.
Another two Premier League clubs want Sahin. One is Arsenal, the club best placed to sign him. Personal terms between Sahin and Wenger's team have almost been finalised, but the clubs have yet to agree the terms of the transfer. Tottenham is also interested in Sahin, but Real Madrid wanted to include him in the deal for Modric, whilst the Londoners want to keep the two deals separate.
Can't Madrid just throw us a fecking bone or something? We've given them Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Beckham and Heinze, yet they can't even let us buy Sahin? Wankers.
That's if we're even in for him, mind. Could just be a load of bollocks as usual.
That's if we're even in for him, mind. Could just be a load of bollocks as usual.
Why are Arsenal in for Sahin? They have plenty in the centre mid already
No sign of this story on their regular Spanish site. Are they just fishing for page views?
Looks like Song is away. Wilshire is fecked, and Ramsey has been pretty poor for a while.
Love to see him here but if the stuff about Fergie is true then it's the right call as this loan/buy back bullshit is just that.
The thing I don't get is wasn't he going to be a makeweight in the Modric deal and not a loan? So Real seem willing to let him go if it suits them, maybe they just need the right offer.
The thing I don't get is wasn't he going to be a makeweight in the Modric deal and not a loan? So Real seem willing to let him go if it suits them, maybe they just need the right offer.
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In short, we are not arsed whether you go.
Someone will have a gem of a player at a bargain price next season.
Someone will have a gem of a player at a bargain price next season.
And it won't be us.
it vertainly wont. I'll bet he goes for buttons.Eh? How did you work any of that out from Mourinho's quotes?
He's giving the distinct impression he won't get in the way of a permanent transfer this summer. Bearing in mind the (alleged) interest of at least three English clubs and however many other clubs on the continent why on earth would Madrid sell him at a bargain price?
He did not get that from Mou's quote, hence he put it on a new line.
Or so it seems to me.
Or so it seems to me.
It was clearly supposed to be an interpretation of Mourinho quote. That's why he started with "In short..." and used the word "we".
Anyway, look at the time of the previous post.
Be happy.
Maybe a gentleman agreement to get RVP
He is a very talented player and was instrumental in Dortmund winning the Bundesliga 2 seasons ago. I think he'd be available for around £10mil which is peanuts compared to what some other players are going around for. I'd be very frustrated if he ended up somewhere else other than us.
Ok so he is certainly available. I think if we really are interested, Fergie would give Jose a tinkle as they seem to be on good terms. I suspect though, that we're not in for Sahin. He'd be a great option for us though IMO.
I would be amazed why we would not be though?
We persist with using park / rafael as make shift midfielders, this kid is a brilliant player; fergie does confuse me sometimes.
We are short in quality numbers, and a top young player comes available, we should definitely be interested.
Especially with Kagawa here now, thats even more reason he would want to come over.
He'd really fit the bill - young, creative, probably not very expensive. Even if he doesn't make it here for some reason we could probably sell him for a similar amount in a couple of years. It's a really low risk transfer.
We won't be in for him though.
We won't be in for him though.
This transfer makes too much sense for us to actually pursue it.
The one glaring reason I thought Fergie's reluctance to buy a central midfielder was to allow our reserve prospects develop and grow into the first team....but now Pogba and Morrison have departed, I can't see what the reasoning is behind the lack of investment. Frustrating is the not the word! I guess we'll be sitting here again crying out loud one year from now.
This. Value? Quality? Central midfield? Available?
We'll sign another winger and maybe a young full back.
i should have spaced the two lines.
That was my prediction that he will go for 8-12m next season.
We should get a translator so we're able to ask Kagawa's opinion on this one. He played with him for half a season. Should know a thing or too.
If Arsenal sell Song, what do people think they're looking for for him? I'd love us to sign him, could also help out when we have our defensive injury crisis. To me he looked like the most improved player last season, never knew he could be creative as well as a powerhouse.
Could be a decent option if we improve his tactical awareness and positioning at times. I'd rather we pursue a top quality one first and perhaps look at more of a backup player like Song if we have money left over.
I think he's definitely on the path to top quality. I couldn't resist doing a special thread for this fantasy of mine,
at the prospect..He didn't play much for Real Madrid last season but this is a nice compilation package for when he did.
If he's actually for sale with no buy back bullshit then I can't see why we wouldn't be interested, he's class and young enough to become world class.
How about because we never go for players in his situation? Coming off a bad season where he was out of favour after injury. We havent done it before, so we're unlikely to suddenly do it and make Sahin the exception even though he could be a really good player for us.
There's obviously a reason why we stick to buying players after they've done well at their previous club and are coming in with momentum
jose had questions about his 'energy' and work-rate...perhaps fergie feels that if sahin isn't enough of a grafter for JM, then he's not enough of a grafter for us either.
Yeah... like micheal owen was in favour and never injured
This kid has had 1 bad injury in his career, and has taken a little while to get going again. He is the ideal backup / replacement to carrick, nobody else out there would fit in as well as he would IMO.
If only Rodgers had worked with him in the past, we might have been in for him.
You've become a lot more interesting post-Dalglish/Rafa, B19.