Dalot has never been all that great, but he found a patch of consistency and reliability that our other FB’s haven’t. He’s been the best of a bad bunch. If we get a quality LB/LWB he may find himself as backup to Maz.
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- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
- 1
Upgrade on AWB in every department.. even tackling.
He's a lot better than Dalot as well, could soon emerge as one of the best players in the PL. Might not get the goals/assist to match TAA but he's so good for the general play.
Mazraoui has done it again, the way he acclamatizes to a higher level is superb.
He's a lot better than Dalot as well, could soon emerge as one of the best players in the PL. Might not get the goals/assist to match TAA but he's so good for the general play.
Mazraoui has done it again, the way he acclamatizes to a higher level is superb.
this lad has been a proper signing for us this season...quality defensively and much better going forward than AWB or even Dalot
Is it just me or is his tackling quite underrated?
Might be a bold take but his tackling feels better than AWB's, in that he usually wins the ball and doesn't just get a toe on it for the sake of it and end up redirecting it to another oppo player whilst now being on the ground.
Seems to time them well too and has that long leggedness.
Might be a bold take but his tackling feels better than AWB's, in that he usually wins the ball and doesn't just get a toe on it for the sake of it and end up redirecting it to another oppo player whilst now being on the ground.
Seems to time them well too and has that long leggedness.
Probably our best player this season. Great signing.
Definitely our best signing this year, and one of the best since the post Ferguson era
Thank you, Ten Hag...(i'm just stirring 
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On topic though, yeah been a great signing (thus far). Long may it continue.
)On topic though, yeah been a great signing (thus far). Long may it continue.
Quite funny so many AWB fans were lamenting losing him and his tackling ability, whilst others knew we had to get rid and when we did, we got an upgrade in every sense plus the tackling.
I'm sure his form will tamper off but so far so very good.
I'm sure his form will tamper off but so far so very good.
I said it plenty of times last season and 2 seasons back. we’re good if Dalot is a backup. We’re fecked if he’s a regular starter. His biggest asset is being healthy and that’s just not enough.
He’s the modern equivalent of Silvestre. Has everything on paper to be great, until he actually plays and you realise he’s always going to have a brain fart every game which is disastrous for a defender.
No surprise Maz was signed and looked far better than him on both sides.
His tackling isn't as eye candy as AWB's, but he combine tackling while closely harassing the opponent (in non-sexual way); thus it is more effective. AWB and Dalot's style is more of shadowing before trying to nick the ball.
At least, that's as far as I remember.
Upgrading AWB means you need to get one of the best FB out there. We stumble one, but it's not like player like Maz is easy to find or always available on reasonable cost.
West Ham fans currently seem less than convinced on that point. Some recents posts from the AWB/Coufal threads on a West Ham forum:
I have some sympathy for AWB as Lopetegui is doing a poor job, and signing him to play the sort of role Lopetegui wants his fullbacks to play never made sense. And there are some (though much fewer) posts in his defence too.
But the complaints about his attitude, ability on the ball and weaknesses in his defensive game outside of tackles all echo the complaints that were repeated on here many times over. I just don't think he's all that good.
And excellent though Mazraoui has been, I suspect he isn't that rare in being a fullback who could provide an upgrade on AWB. The fact that we made that clear upgrade for nearly no net cost is (providing he stays fit) what makes it such a particularly good transfer.
In what world? Wan-Bissaka is as average as they come.
There were a ton of people who wanted him to stay. Will always baffle me.
Same here. Some have a weird fondness for a few of our underwhelming/average players of the past. McTominay being another one.
Isn't AWB playing as LB with West Ham? Also he's really good if you just want a defensive FB and don't do anything else.
Yes, i still think it's hard to get fullback like Maz that equally good on defence and attack. I don't see many teams have FB like him. Even in SAF successful era, he'd be considered as a starter. If Maz continue his current form, he's contender for United POTY.
Admittedly, I don't watch much football outside United and some CL games. So you could be right.
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AWB is really good if he's up against a dribbler that he can just focus on 1v1. Probably one of the best in the history of the game.
But even defensively he has quite a few weaknesses which we saw many times over the years, and West Ham fans are already complaining about the same things going by the quotes above. Positioning, being lazy getting back, ruining our offside line, covering crosses at the back post. He improved some of those a bit over the years (most notably the back post crosses) but it's still not something he's actually good at. Just not the huge weakness which it was in his first few years here.
This is not a "form" thing with Mazraoui. He really is this good. Just always been plagued with injuries but if he is fit, he will give you a good game 9 times out of 10.
Can he possibly play RCB in the new system or adapt to RWB. At this point he seems like a misfit in the system but could be too early to say
He's much slower and has made more defensive mistakes than AWB used to make in a short time
Still a good player and a great signing for the price, he has won lots of tackles, but AWB has more key passes despite Maz having 1 assist and him having 0. Maz averages 6 more passes and 2% more accuracy compared to West Ham AWB
AWB has more dribble attempts and more successful dribbles per 90
AWB himself has had less one on one defending to do and his defensive numbers have gone down, while Maz's have gone up taking over our fullback duties
We have a better defensive record than West Ham despite our struggles, I think its safe to say that the keeper and defenders are better than West Ham's and Maz has been a bit better than AWB this season
Yep, a lot of fullbacks feel perfectly at home in one of the wide centerback positions in a 3-man central defense.
César Azpilicueta (a nominal fullback), for example, did really well alongside Thiago Silva and Antonio Rüdiger.
I suppose it all boils down to a couple of things...
- Would Amorim and the technical team be willing to adapt Mazraoui to the wide centerback role, instead of procuring someone who is a wide centerback in terms of pedigree? The likes of Inácio, Reis, St. Juste and Quaresma aren't much taller than Mazraoui, but some coaches become obsessed with physical profiles in the Premier League. That alone can prove to be a stumbling block (even if the technical and tactical capabilities are there), but I guess we'll have to see.
- Would Mazraoui be willing to adapt to the wide centerback role? I don't see why not, when he's versatile to begin with, very spatially intelligent, and has played wherever the team needed him (on the right or left flank, in the midfield and even as a No. 10). All things considered that doesn't appear to be a prominent issue.
Why are some advocating him to play at RCB? Did you not watch the man at Ajax? He was a menace offensively, always in the opposition box causing chaos and scored a few too. Playing wingback would be perfect for him, his on the ball ability and football IQ would be perfect there. I'm sure we will see him there for most of the season. Back 3 will be a mix of Shaw/Martinez at LCB, DeLigt/Maguire/Evans CB and Yoro/Lindelof at RCB and I'm sure we will see some youth defenders play there before we adapt fullbacks to play there. Amorim has never been shy to play the youth when injury crisis occur.
Anyone who has watched Wan-Bissaka over the years knows what they’re getting. Their supporters were warned.
I could always understand his limitations going forward; he was never going to be able to start whipping in balls like an Alexander-Arnold.
But the fact that we’re still talking about positioning and marking shows just how little his game has developed since we first brought him to the club.
Mazraoui replacing him was great business.
I would like to see him as a wide CB but I think he can play anywhere. He's that good. I believe he would also make a very good Fabinho type defensive midfielder.
He has all of tools to be very good there in my opinion. He can also get into attacking positions and dovetail with the wingback.
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ANyway, not a hill to die on. I wanted AWB gone also.
Back to Maz. He's really a good FB. Aggressive and skillful, with good positioning awareness. Don't think even Yoro can be better in his role now.
Wasted in that position.
Wasn't the most comfortable game from him. Once Yoro is fit I'm sure he'll move to wing back.
Thought he was our best player with Onana, Amad. He should be RWB henceforth. Amad right 10.
Another great game. Him and Amad look very good on that right side
Like that he went after Delap all the time after that push. Atleast shows some fight. We desperately missed him out wide.
Once Yoro is back we need to play Maz at LWB and put Dalot on the bench.
Sublime performance, he best represents the quality United need throughout the entire first team.
Not a promising / prospect by age but very competent in terms of performance.
If United sign 3 or even 4 more "Mazaroui's" throughout the first team, the team comfortably competes for top four.
Not a promising / prospect by age but very competent in terms of performance.
If United sign 3 or even 4 more "Mazaroui's" throughout the first team, the team comfortably competes for top four.
Him, Onana and Amad passed the first test with flying colors. Especially, when you compare them with most teammates.
Indeed. Our African contingent have been our best players this season.
Not a centre-back despite doing a job, United missed him further on the pitch.
He was very good the entire game, not sure where you’re getting he wasn’t comfortable from?