Northern Ireland Thread
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In fairness, you'd be the one taking the riding not giving it. That's how us bhoys roll these days.
Know your place kiddo!
Here's a thing Nev, never understood this about you lot, you do realize being called a Fenian is a compliment dont you?
Here's a thing Nev, never understood this about you lot, you do realize being called a Fenian is a compliment dont you?
Aye, it's not something I was using seriously though.
Hope so. Would be much better 'politically' if it was a normal criminal matter rather than a hit attempt.
The bigots in the BNP have their say on the flag dispute, watch out DUP and UUP as Nick is about to launch his political campaign in the north 
I don't understand what the BNP manifesto would be in NI? Irish people go home??
I'd like to think Unionists would have more sense than to vote for them.
Loyalists have always had a thing for far-right racialist politics. They've been linked with groups like combat eighteen and the ku klux klan for years.
He talks a load of misinformed, ignorant and delusional nonsense in that clip also.
He talks a load of misinformed, ignorant and delusional nonsense in that clip also.
Loads of loyalists are closet homosexuals, too. With their steroids, muscles, shaved heads and tattoos.
The far-right is just one big bum orgy. allegedly
I seem to remmeber seeing him on the news at loyalist parades in the past, can they actually displace the UUP and DUP in terms of assembly seats? Any gains could be seen as to Sinn Fein's advantage as it would dilute the unionist vote and could see them as the norths biggest party.
It doesn't surprise me, at all.
Why are you in the least bit surprised?
Yep Johnny "Up the Bum" Adair with his Alexander the Great policies of bumming his subordinates to cultivate loyalty and trust
. Right Said Fred wouldn't look out of place with that lot.Call me old-fashioned but that kinda thing wouldn't exactly facilitate my loyalty and trust.
I've come to expect it but it really shines a whole new light on the nationalists bad, britain good idea that many in the UK grew up with. Another shocking incident that came out in state papers recently was Thatcher wanting to basically ethnically cleanse the north by move all catholics to the south, thus in her eyes removing the problem.
Gerry Adams new years address says he wants to secure a border poll in the new year. Extremely poor timing and a complete waste of time. The 26 counties are in the shitter, why would the people of the north want to join into that? Heck he'll have issues persauding catholics to vote for it and they dont even make up the majority!
Beardy weirdy twat.
More than 150 loyalists are to descend on Dublin to demand that the Irish government remove the Tricolour.
Angry protesters say they are offended by the flag and want it removed from the Houses of the Oireachtas, at the city’s Leinster House.
The cross-border protest follows weeks of anger, riots and protests right across Northern Ireland since the removal of the Union flag at Belfast City Hall on December 3.
On Saturday less than 100 protesters demonstrated outside Belfast City Hall amid a heavy police presence.
It passed without incident and there was no disruption to traffic.
The Dublin campaign is set to take place in early January and could be held under the banner of the new ‘People’s Forum’, a group being set up by grass-root loyalists.
The forum is to rival the government’s Unionist Forum, announced by First Minister Peter Robinson and UUP leader Mike Nesbitt last week. Victim’s campaigner William Frazer says those attending will also be voicing their opposition to the Taoiseach’s “interference” in the province.
“We are going to hold a small, peaceful protest in Dublin and it’s not solely about the flags issue.
“It’s also about the Irish government’s interference with inquiries here,” he said.
In November Irish Prime Minister Enda Kennedy said he will tell the UK government and European leaders there is a need for a public inquiry into the murder of Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane.
“Enda Kenny needs to keep his nose out of our affairs,” added Mr Frazer.
“We understand that people may be upset that we are coming down to ask that their country’s flag be removed, but perhaps they will understand what it has been like for us.”
Similar street protests have been taking place across Northern Ireland for almost a month.
They began on 3 December, when Belfast City Council voted to fly the flag on designated days rather than all year round.
Sinn Fein and the SDLP wanted to remove the flag completely but backed a compromise motion, proposed by the Alliance party.
The motion was passed by 29 votes to 21.
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...icolour-in-dublin-16255998.html#ixzz2Ge36yODI
Angry protesters say they are offended by the flag and want it removed from the Houses of the Oireachtas, at the city’s Leinster House.
The cross-border protest follows weeks of anger, riots and protests right across Northern Ireland since the removal of the Union flag at Belfast City Hall on December 3.
On Saturday less than 100 protesters demonstrated outside Belfast City Hall amid a heavy police presence.
It passed without incident and there was no disruption to traffic.
The Dublin campaign is set to take place in early January and could be held under the banner of the new ‘People’s Forum’, a group being set up by grass-root loyalists.
The forum is to rival the government’s Unionist Forum, announced by First Minister Peter Robinson and UUP leader Mike Nesbitt last week. Victim’s campaigner William Frazer says those attending will also be voicing their opposition to the Taoiseach’s “interference” in the province.
“We are going to hold a small, peaceful protest in Dublin and it’s not solely about the flags issue.
“It’s also about the Irish government’s interference with inquiries here,” he said.
In November Irish Prime Minister Enda Kennedy said he will tell the UK government and European leaders there is a need for a public inquiry into the murder of Belfast solicitor Pat Finucane.
“Enda Kenny needs to keep his nose out of our affairs,” added Mr Frazer.
“We understand that people may be upset that we are coming down to ask that their country’s flag be removed, but perhaps they will understand what it has been like for us.”
Similar street protests have been taking place across Northern Ireland for almost a month.
They began on 3 December, when Belfast City Council voted to fly the flag on designated days rather than all year round.
Sinn Fein and the SDLP wanted to remove the flag completely but backed a compromise motion, proposed by the Alliance party.
The motion was passed by 29 votes to 21.
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...icolour-in-dublin-16255998.html#ixzz2Ge36yODI
That mentalist Willie Frazer again..
They've two hopes of getting near Leinster House.
Pointless exercise, it'll turn out as successful as their love ulster march a few years back.
That was successful for them, they caused havoc in retrospect.
Retards,
I can see their little minds burning away there, thinking of an analogical counter move, all with their little rangers thinking caps on. When all of a sudden Johnty almost spills his cider as he exclaims.
" 've gat it! we go down ta 'public and tell 'em ta take away THAR fleg!"
I would makes sense too, if they lived in the same city as that building, our country for that matter and it was a remotely similar contentious issue.
I can see their little minds burning away there, thinking of an analogical counter move, all with their little rangers thinking caps on. When all of a sudden Johnty almost spills his cider as he exclaims.
" 've gat it! we go down ta 'public and tell 'em ta take away THAR fleg!"
I would makes sense too, if they lived in the same city as that building, our country for that matter and it was a remotely similar contentious issue.
For feck sake.
They're trying to create some kind of 'oppressed protestant' narrative and are hoping that when they go down there they'll get attacked and it'll make headlines everywhere. Billy Hutchinson said a week ago that he had a 'cunning' plan that would hopefully ensure the union flag would be flying again. It says it all that this is his idea of cunning. The balloon.
Blackadder-esque cunning.
I'm kind of tired of being associated with these idiots by a creed, I don't have and a political belief I barely share.
I'm a Unionist right, in the sense that I don't want to be part of a united Ireland, If we, as a nation, got something out of it then I'd think about it.
Apart from that I disagree with the entire rhetoric and political buffoonery that is the Unionist splinter group clusterfeckaton. Who am I supposed to vote for to make them go away ?
I'm kind of tired of being associated with these idiots by a creed, I don't have and a political belief I barely share.
I'm a Unionist right, in the sense that I don't want to be part of a united Ireland, If we, as a nation, got something out of it then I'd think about it.
Apart from that I disagree with the entire rhetoric and political buffoonery that is the Unionist splinter group clusterfeckaton. Who am I supposed to vote for to make them go away ?
I think it was Peter Robinson who said a while back that Unionism now needs the support of Catholic votes to maintain the union. With incidents such as this and the flag protests as a whole they're only serving to alienate and push those votes away. If I was a Catholic in NI I'd see the flag being taking down as a fair move for equality. The whole solution to this situation is obvious yet its one that Unionism would be unwilling to discuss, the flying of both the Union flag and the Tricolour side by side every day over city hall.
Alliance, I think.
Why fly a foreign flag? They'd be as well sticking a German one up then, or a Japanese one.
I've always liked the Mexican flag, we should give that a pop.
The alliance party? As someone looking from the outside in Im surprised they dont have a wider support base.
Most of the alliance vote comes from traditionally unionist areas. With the way unionists have went on (classing them as traitors and what not) I can't decide if alliance will do better next time, out of a sympathy vote, or do worse for not supporting the flag. We'll have to wait and see I guess.
How much does it cost to start your own party? I reckon it couldn't be that hard to get a couple thousand votes, push for the legalising of cannabis ( It'll never happen but it will keep the students and druggies happy), longer opening hours for pubs and clubs (Again, students) and have it so there's no political agenda either way as far as Loyalism or Republicanism goes.
Could be onto a winner here. I'd vote for me.
Could be onto a winner here. I'd vote for me.
They'll do worse. All the furore here has probably guarenteed Long won't get in again and Robinson will get his seat back.
I am from the same place as you yet the Union Jack is a flag I consider foreign and doesn't represent my nationality at all. The Tricolour would represent me, I feel. You would reject both flags flying on the City Hall? Why? Why do you not want equality, TN? Do you not like us?
In fairness TN thats part of the problem imo, "foreign flag" attitude. You have to recognise a large part of your population take that as their flag. Besides the Jack isnt even NI's flag you have your own with the great symbol of nationalism taking centre stage on it. You may not like to see the Tricolour being flown but its a compromise, you cant ignore a large part of your population and only cater to the majority. Lets be honest with population swings there will be a catholic majority in ~30 years, if you offer small compromises and concessions now it will benefit you in the long run.
Most likely. I think most unionists took the removal of the flag to heart, even non-extremist types were agitated by it.
I don't support flying a tricolour over stormont or the like either. I believe that it is my flag, but to fly it over a building that administers british rule in Ireland would be wrong, in my opinion.