Shooting police officers isn't serious to be fair.
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Shooting police officers isn't serious to be fair.
In respect of dealing wih dissident republicans as was claimed above.
You can paint it up however you want, but they both boil down to a bunch of idiots acting like idiots. You think us normal law abiding protestants should be able to put a stop to what is happening, I merely pointed out that idiots will be idiots as and when they choose to be. Normal law abiding nationalists have no control over the clowns that riot in the Ardoyne, what do you expect from us normal law abiding protestants with regards to the clowns acting up now?
You're pretty fecking shit at strawmen as well, PJ. Stop being a dickhead and trying to dress people up as this and that.
That's not what i've said. Christ you're tedious. The question was asked, what are the prods doing to stop this? I've asked, what should we do? What can we do? What is ever done to stop wankers acting like wankers?
Nothing, being the answer. Across the divide people in our communities bring us all down, all we can do is rise above them and show that we're not the same. I don't support what has happened this past couple of weeks, nowhere have I said I have, but tell me, what exactly do you expect me to do about it? And what have/will you do when members of your community act like wankers?
Who tells them and what has it done to stop them? Have you told a dissident republican that they are not wanted?
Well unless I have missed something, any dissident attack that I can remember has been roundly and completely condemned by the normal working nationalist community. Feel free to provide evidence to the contrary though.
On the other hand when you have Unionist leaders and councilors saying things to the effect of “This must all stop” but then going on to allude that it’s all Sinn Feins fault in the first place, well it doesn’t really help does it?
It sends out the wrong message, leaves that lingering feeling of injustice with the loyalists population and they are then going on the rampage on the back of that.
Deal with the issue head on, get these thugs off the street, and deal with the politics through the proper channels.
When haven't I?
Stupid crimes like shooting at police officers? You ask others to condemn violence and call something like that stupid while excusing their behaviour as they are 'wound' up. You are a very bad joke.
They weren't referring to politicians. They were referring to normal people like ourselves.
Oh, so you just wanted to gloss over what TN was referring to?
And petrol bombs. Don't forget the petrol bombs.
What have you said or done to dissident republicans to get them to change their ways?
Without getting too drawn into this I'd have to say I don't think what happens in the Ardoyne is comparable to what's happening all over the six counties at the minute. I also don't think there's all that much ordinary protestants can do about this now. When people like Billy Hutchinson take over this is what happens.
It's certainly more widespread at the moment but scum causing trouble are scum causing trouble regardless of where it happens and how long it lasts.
Is there any bother tonight?
I'm meant to be travelling up in 3 weeks to a Socialist event, that would be involved in a peaceful, Republican political party. It's in Belfast City Center, is it safe?
Hard to tell Jake. We've no idea how long this will last.
Sad thing about all this is when you see pictures of the protesters it's not all hooded thugs, it's people who should know better. Middle aged women and people out with their kids. They've allowed themselves to be drawn into something they should be well clear of. Just go home for god sake, it's nearly Christmas, out on the streets protesting is no place for children in prams. They should be looking forward to Santa coming, not seeing their first riots.
Would be safe enough Jakey now whether your event happens is a different matter.
Here's a map showing where the planned protests are due to happen and when. It seems to be updated daily too. Only a handful of protests today by the looks of it but it might be particularly useful on Friday as the protests are reported to be planned for "province wide" between 5pm and 7pm.
Protests Map
Protests Map
Who needs democracy or an economy huh? As long as some cnuting building had a fecking shitty flag hanging from it.
Democratic decisions cause trouble in Northern Ireland all too often unfortunately.
Policeman shot at in Bangor
Yep not in the least bit surprised
Jesus. Is he ok?
Reports saying that the off duty Policeman was shot at but not injured thankfully. BBC say two men have been arrested.
pair of cnuts.
Rose on the third day and then ascended to heaven, hasn't been since but I assume he's alright.
Smart fecker. Seriously though, hope the guy's OK. Off duty cop shot in Bangor sounds strange though. Like, unless it's republicans, why would loyalists be targeting an off duty cop?
Can't get my head around that one.
Sounds like a strange one alright.
Could be completely unrelated to anything if that's the case. Let's hope it wasn't sectarian and it was a 'personal' reason.
That stood out to me as a good quote from their 'security source'. Of course the fecking Ombudsman are going to investigate an office firing his weapon. It's not the bloody wild west.
if indeed he was correct to shoot then it'll be no problem for him.Out of curiosity, is anyone from the Catholic community who aren't dissident gunmen doing anything to stop dissident gunmen trying to shoot off duty Catholic policemen?
You're doing nothing then? Interesting.
Did the Nationalist community react in the right way when Ronan Kerr was shot in Omagh? There was a huge amount of solidarity with the family and with the Police that time. The murder was roundly condemned by every single catholic public figure who spoke or was asked about it. Nationalist politicians couldn't have been clearer about where they stand in regards to this.
What do you want us to do?
I wasn't aware that only politicians could act. You see, the question was asked what we as normal law abiding Protestant people were doing to stop people within our community acting like hooligans. I said there wasn't much we as people could do. I was wrong with that, apparently. So now I'm asking the same question.
Your last sentence is the right answer by the way, it just wasn't the right answer until today.
Hmmm, I don't know TN. I'd need to read back over the thread to see where the normal Sammy Soap of the street was being criticised. I know that I have been heavily critical of the Protestant leadership and rightly so, as they have been stoking the fires of this and not condemning it loudly enough at all. I wouldn't expect you to go out and tackle a fleg head anymore than you would expect me to tackle a gunman.
That said, I don't see too many 'peace marches' being organised or large scale condemnation which I would expect.
You have selective hearing anyway, for example, you haven't read properly a single post I've made on the subject. Proper order.
Edit: Not you, Irwin, you just posted in between.
Edit: Not you, Irwin, you just posted in between.
Well clearly your reading is no less selective.
It's been said many many times about many many people, but you two really should just feck and get it over with.