Gaming No Man's Sky | 25th May New FREE Update: Leviathan
- Thread starter PlayerOne
- Start date
Hmm... It seems the leaked gameplay video that was hosted on pornhub has gone down too.
There was a leaked video on youtube a few days ago, didn't look that impressive. Hope it turns out to be great as the main idea(Exploring space and not just killing everything)sounds great.
Usually, sure.
I do not doubt Murray and co in their sincerity to create a marvellous experience. I guess they want to give people as much of a chance at going in fresh as possible. I may well be wrong, of course.
Meanwhile, here I am watching a bit of a twitch stream, just because I can't help myself. Every time I watch a stream, I see a different world, and what I see fills me with wonder and wanderlust.
The stream, in case anybody wants to watch: https://www.twitch.tv/subbzie/
Anyway, as for the people in here who just don't see this being interesting, it's not really made for you lot. I've yet to see a game made for everybody, so that's no slight
Last edited:
Usually, sure.
I do not doubt Murray and co in their sincerity to create a marvellous experience. I guess they want to give people as much of a chance at going in fresh as possible. I may well be wrong, of course.
Meanwhile, here I am watching a bit of a twitch stream, just because I can't help myself. Every time I watch a stream, I see a different world, and what I see fills me with wonder and wanderlust.
The stream, in case anybody wants to watch: https://www.twitch.tv/subbzie/
Anyway, as for the people in here who just don't see this being interesting, it's not really made for you lot. I've yet to see a game made for everybody, so that's no slight
But the issue is with a few tweaks or changes it really good be an epic game. I want to get into it in its current state but I am unable to (and posting on here to see if I get convinced otherwise).
For example, how do you see a "different world" every time? It is basically a proceduraly generated world that has been spat out using math functions. Knowing that no one put thought into making the world I'm discovering and it was just generated as a prodcut puts me off big time. I would rather discover one big world then a billion worlds that aren't hand crafted.
But that literally defeats the entire game concept, which is that there is an actual galaxy of star systems to explore. There is no realistic way of achieving this unless you generate procedurally. The idea that inspired the game was that you could jump in your ship, point it 90 degrees up and fly into space, then pick a star at random and discover what's there before anyone else has ever done so. The price of that pure freedom may well be that diversity isn't huge, don't know as I've not played it yet, but the freedom is the whole draw of the game.
No-one put any thought into the real world. It's just a massive pinball game of physics, that later graduates into chemistry, biology and then culture. Fair enough, no game could hope to do that mindlessly, but this one takes a great big stab at it.
Secondly, just one single planet in this game would take ENORMOUS amounts of time and resources to make. They wouldn't be able to make that without taking short cuts, let alone a solar system, or a galaxy, or a bleedin' universe. I'm pretty sure that the surface of ONE single planet in this game is a map larger than anything that's been painstakingly crafted by a conscious team of level designers.
Fair enough, there's no need for 18 quintillion, one quintillion would probably suffice, but at any rate it would not be possible to do without the help of procedural generation. With the central thought behind the game being that you're a speck of dust, free to roam and explore a galaxy in a universe, you cannot hope to even approach doing that through handcrafting. So, a choice has to be made.
You want a hand-crafted world, go right ahead and delve into another sandbox, but this kind of sandbox necessitates procedural generation.
Anyway, from what I've seen it's diverse enough. Worlds can be radioactive, they can be terminally cold or hot (as far as your lifeform goes), it can be posionous, and some are teeming with life whereas others are more barren (though it seems none are entirely without life). It's got plants, plants that can attack you, plants that can move around, animals that are docile grazers whereas others are carnivores and hunt other animals, or you for that matter. There are aliens, who can help you learn more and explore more, or that you could piss off (I'm assuming), and whose language is completely unknown to you to begin with. There's trading, there's an average galactic price for certain elements and items, and then there's the price you find in the area you're in, depending on what resources are plentiful there, and in addition the values go up and down depending on what kind of trading activities the gaming community themselves engage in. There's weather, like harsh wind and rain, there's a day/night cycle, and it's caused by the planet's rotation. I've been surprised to see things like stalagtites and stalagmites on one of the planets a streamer has shown, and I'm sure there are a number of other surprises to come. Certain things will be so rare to see that not all gamers can come across it, the odds just won't allow it.
That's just me ranting about SOME of the things that are in this game. I don't know how you could hope for more, and I don't know how you could hope for a hand-crafted version of a game like this. That's pie in the sky, to put it mildly.
edit: leave it to Ubik to pretty much summarise my sentiments without going off on a massive rant.
Right. I just wished we could colonize the planets or 'leave our mark' on them. From what I have read any stations you make do not exist once you leave.
The developer says that he and his team will be polishing and adding features even after release. Who knows, you may get your wish
I do the abstract, you do the full piece
I guess I don't see it the way you do. All I see is the same thing being repetead over and over with little depth. Don't take this the wrong way because I am sure it is an amazing game -- people are going crazy for it -- to me, it kind of epitomizes modern games. There is so much focus on vastness, tech used, 'size' and little on the depth and gameplay aspect of it. Pokemon go is a comparision. Amazing concept, but terrible gameplay. At the end of the day you're just catching pokemon and the way I see this game right now you're visiting planets. Could just be me though.
Like I said, I just don't think it's for you if that's how you see it. I'm a space nerd who wants nothing more in life than to experience that for myself. To me, and a number of other people, this will be something akin to a meditative experience. That, and we might just appreciate different aspects of games in general.
The universe and life in it is very self-similar. As above, so below, and there are a few mathematical formulas that we see propagated again and again, like for example the fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio.
The accusation you level at the game could easily be levelled at the universe itself. Someone on the subreddit was worried about it all feeling meaningless, with the great expanse and so many things to do, but not necessarily a clear motivation for doing them. I call that high praise, for if the game invokes that kind of existentialist thought, it has clearly managed to mimic the real universe better than one could have hoped.
Just to be clear, my tone isn't antagonised or anything, I'm cool with people not finding this game as fantastic as I do.
I was randomly just watching the Great White Silence and a question occurred to me surrounding this, I'm pretty sure I've heard the answer from Murray in a video a while back but couldn't remember precisely - are there climate differences on each planet, e.g. temperate, tropical and polar? I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no and they decided to make them uniform for the sake of simplicity, but like I said, my memory may be on the blink.
And on a related note (that I don't remember seeing anything about) - do we know if planets can be tidally locked to their star? The ability to circumnavigate a planet's perpetual twilight zone would be
I was randomly just watching the Great White Silence and a question occurred to me surrounding this, I'm pretty sure I've heard the answer from Murray in a video a while back but couldn't remember precisely - are there climate differences on each planet, e.g. temperate, tropical and polar? I'm pretty sure the answer to this is no and they decided to make them uniform for the sake of simplicity, but like I said, my memory may be on the blink.
And on a related note (that I don't remember seeing anything about) - do we know if planets can be tidally locked to their star? The ability to circumnavigate a planet's perpetual twilight zone would be
Just one biome, no seasons.
And yeah, supposedly there are planets/moons which are tidally locked.
In other news, there are review copies of the game out, as opposed to what was speculated earlier.
It's ON Man's Sky?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Open_Critic/status/760494661907513345
That guy that has claimed to get to the center of the universe in 40 hours probably just got to the center in his Galaxy. I'm guessing getting to the center brings you to a completely new galaxy. Just a guess though.
I'm getting excited for this and would normally get this on the launch day but it's just so expensive. With Deus Ex coming out two weeks later I might wait a bit before I get this. Then again it's holiday period, there haven't been too many games and this looks like a proper pick up and play hit (which I don't mind, Witcher 3 Blood and Wine is the only storyline based game I want to devote myself to right now).
Also:
What I don't like already is that there will be no civilizations out there, like planets with buildings, cities and stuff. I think it'd be exciting if they were out there.
Seen it, but someone else in this thread might get a fresh kick out of it
Ugh... A week. I'm having a real hard time
I'm getting it, but really do not know if I will like it or not
Would it not be better if you could meet other players?
Will there be co-ordinates that we can share so others visit your planet?
Would it not be better if you could meet other players?
Will there be co-ordinates that we can share so others visit your planet?
Make it like Journey's multiplayer.
Encountering another player in Journey was kind of special. Doing the same thing here could be cool. But there is weapons and stuff in this so any encounter would inevitably result in "pew pew" in a matter of seconds.
The reason I hadn't paid any attention to this prior to about 6 months ago was because I thought it would be a standard MMO, which I hate.
Would be fair enough if they had an opt-in multiplayer though, given the amount of planets that'll never be visited it should be easy enough to cordon off a section of the galaxy where players can interact. As long as I can carry on doing my Man With No Name act on my own
Would be fair enough if they had an opt-in multiplayer though, given the amount of planets that'll never be visited it should be easy enough to cordon off a section of the galaxy where players can interact. As long as I can carry on doing my Man With No Name act on my own
Hoping that it ends up being as addictive as Elite was on the Commodore 64 etc back in the early 80's.
for some reason i had no idea there were other spaceships and factions and shit. my brain must have melted. looking forward to this.
Looks like the perfect game to get addicted to hash again. Been smoking only sporadically for 6 months. Must resist... Damn.
One thing that confused me:
So...eh? Don't quite get how it works. Schrodinger's Cat's Sky? And how does the offline stuff happen, you only need to be connected if you want to upload your discoveries and stuff?
If you want discoveries to be registered, if you want any significant fecking around on your planet to be noticeable to others, and if you want to have a chance at randomly coming across another player. As for the game world it's as they say, it's not loaded as you boot up the game, it's rendered around you in real time based off a seed number and the procedural generation mechanics as established by the game developers.
Or at least that's how I understand it, as a dude with no clue about video game development or programming.
http://www.hitbox.tv/BigTiggles
This dude's been streaming for hours and hours the last couple of days... currently sating the curiosity of the commenters by charging towards the nearest sun... boy, it's taking some time!
He says he'll stream every day until release, and then start a new game. So if anybody wants to see prolonged gameplay, that link should be useful.
This dude's been streaming for hours and hours the last couple of days... currently sating the curiosity of the commenters by charging towards the nearest sun... boy, it's taking some time!
He says he'll stream every day until release, and then start a new game. So if anybody wants to see prolonged gameplay, that link should be useful.
I was watching that last night too, really enjoyed what I saw & it just increased my hype for this game. If anyone wants to see the screenshots he took they're all here on his Twitter timeline:
https://twitter.com/big_tiggles
Anyone who's interested in this should check out his streams, he says he's not interested in going to the centre of the galaxy/universe for the time being so there shouldn't be any spoilers with that. He's just exploring, making his own little adventures as they happen and really just doing what most people will expect to do in the game, and it's been everything I've wanted the game to be so far. He's also not afraid to call out the chat in his stream for bullshit claims about the game and was also calling out that other leaker on his claims in the game.
https://twitter.com/big_tiggles
Anyone who's interested in this should check out his streams, he says he's not interested in going to the centre of the galaxy/universe for the time being so there shouldn't be any spoilers with that. He's just exploring, making his own little adventures as they happen and really just doing what most people will expect to do in the game, and it's been everything I've wanted the game to be so far. He's also not afraid to call out the chat in his stream for bullshit claims about the game and was also calling out that other leaker on his claims in the game.
Last edited:
This guy gets it.
Agree massively. The best thing about vast spaces in a game is the depth that's supposed to come with it.
This game would be incredible if there was a lot of interaction with other people and there was actually stuff to do and explore other than look at pretty things that probably repeat quite a lot.
Also although the amount of planets is almost infinite, there's a certain pattern to them and they'll all appear very similar after a certain amount of time. I've gone from wanting this a lot, through not wanting this at all, to presently considering getting this at launch to serve as a pick-up-and-play game I'd occasionally play to relax. I understand that the basic concept of it is to explore and it's going to be fun doing that but it'd be awesome if there'd actually been more purpose to it. Perhaps even having a smaller world out there would be beneficial as we'd be able to come across other people playing, right now you're not going to meet anyone out there.
Kudos to them for coming up with such brave idea and pulling through with this, not sure it'll be very good but it's definitely something fresh.
This thing is through and the whole "life also has repetition" thing doesn't hold up. Life and the universe is effectively infinitely more complex. So much so that you have religions and people worshiping God because they are convinced someone had a hand in it. Don't want to go on a tangent... but my point is comparing a few functions that generate planets to life is a non argument to me.
Strip the fact about how vast the game is and it boils down to nothing. You shoot at rocks and kill aggressive aliens? Call me old fashioned but a game needs at least some sort of a purpose that hooks you (not driving towards the sun...)
Have the developers mentioned anything about future content updates/DLC/expansions? Or if it's moddable?
They've just finished the first Update which adds new features, balancing and content. Sean Murray described future support for the game as "a constantly iterated and growing feature set.", I think they also stated that all future content would be free but would be in the form of smaller feature addition rather than massive DLC expansions. On mods I think he said they'd rather provide a modding tool rather than just letting modders run amok with the code as small changes can have massive ramifications due to the procedural generation of the games universe.
So will there be like cities on one of these quintillion planets? Bit weird that there's clearly a few spacefaring species but we've not seen any of their homeplanets.