Gaming Nintendo Switch

I know of a few games not announced that I want, but the real kicker here for me is even with those the first year looks dead already for games.

No one can deny those new videos of Zelda, Mario, Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart look absolutely fantastic, but there's a worrying lack of anything else even remotely close.

As for online, Splatoon and MK8 are easily two of the best online games to play in years, but yeah for free. Paying for online just to occasionally play 2 games, one of which really is an online only game, is way too much.


I'll get it, but looks like once again same old Nintendo.
 
Redlambs said:
What, exactly, dies this mean? What do you mean "Switch doesn't support Frostbite"?
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From reading other forums it sounds like frostbite should work on the switch due to its capability for being scalable. However, its an EA engine and with that its speculated that its due to EAs lack of enthusiasm for not adapting it for use on the switch.

With regards to battery info see my previous post which is translated from Nintendo Japans website.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Was it on here or maybe twitter I read that skyrim is going to be an Xbox 360 port rather than the new remastered version?

I admire @Dir Wangem optimism, and because I'm a fool I will buy the thing on release day. But the reveal was worse than I could ever have anticipated. It was bad when I read about it this morning. Even worse since I got home this evening and watched a load of stuff about it. I can't believe how apparently out of touch they are
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What did you mean about the port? It is the remastered version, or somewhere in between actually.

The remaster itself is just a 360 port with new textures and a few updates, there's no new engine on any of them.
 
Jep said:
From reading other forums it sounds like frostbite should work on the switch due to its capability for being scalable. However, its an EA engine and with that its speculated that its due to EAs lack of enthusiasm for not adapting it for use on the switch.

With regards to battery info see my previous post which is translated from Nintendo Japans website.
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Yeah, I wanted him to explain it if he could.

It's all well and good reading sites likes Neogaf and the like, but people should always take that stuff with a huge pinch of salt.

Of course Frostbite will work on the switch. In fact it'll work rather well. The fact is EA (despite being scumbags are probably right here) are waiting and seeing before they fully support Switch. It's got nothing to do with the console itself or Nintendo.
 
Redlambs said:
As for online, Splatoon and MK8 are easily two of the best online games to play in years, but yeah for free. Paying for online just to occasionally play 2 games, one of which really is an online only game, is way too much.
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I think the other minus against the online fees for Nintendo is that the free nes/snes game each month is only playable for that month, which is abit rubbish in comparison to psn and xbl (unless its untrue and been misquoted/mis-interpreted in which case ignore this statement).
 
I'm actually fairly happy with the game situation, I'd have liked more than Zelda to start with, but it's enough until Mario Kart is out.

Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Xenoblade 2, I Am Setsuna, Octopath Traveller(by the Bravely Default crew), Shovel Knight, Dragon Quest XI, Bomberman, Rime, Street Fighter, DQ Heros, Fire Emblem Heroes, Fast RMX, Disgea 5, all are or at least look very interesting. Might even give Skyrim another crack since I've gotten a bit more into Western RPG's(EDIT: It might actually have been Oblivion that I didn't like, anyway...).
 
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Redlambs said:
Yeah, I wanted him to explain it if he could.

It's all well and good reading sites likes Neogaf and the like, but people should always take that stuff with a huge pinch of salt.

Of course Frostbite will work on the switch. In fact it'll work rather well. The fact is EA (despite being scumbags are probably right here) are waiting and seeing before they fully support Switch. It's got nothing to do with the console itself or Nintendo.
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Sorry :)

Fully agree. EAs going to EA.
 
Jep said:
I think the other minus against the online fees for Nintendo is that the free nes/snes game each month is only playable for that month, which is abit rubbish in comparison to psn and xbl (unless its untrue and been misquoted/mis-interpreted in which case ignore this statement).
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As far as I'm aware the plan is a month free and heavily discounted. Which is still not great.

Though again, pinch of salt.
 
Redlambs said:
What, exactly, dies this mean? What do you mean "Switch doesn't support Frostbite"?



I don't know where you are getting your information, but I suggest you find new places.
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Maybe I used the wrong words, technically it could but EA just don't give a shit to port a proper version of FIFA so we're left with a piece of shit version they'll probably try to sell at upwards of £50.


I read the battery information from Neogaf, they had quotes from either the treehouse yesterday or the initial reveal. The info is there, apparently Nintendo also gave an example on Zelda and said the switch would last around 3 hours playing that game.

Either way it's not good is it when they can't be assed to develope a proper version of FIFA.
 
Castia said:
Maybe I used the wrong words, technically it could but EA just don't give a shit to port a proper version of FIFA so we're left with a piece of shit version they'll probably try to sell at upwards of £50.


I read the battery information from Neogaf, they had quotes from either the treehouse yesterday or the initial reveal. The info is there, apparently Nintendo also gave an example on Zelda and said the switch would last around 3 hours playing that game.

Either way it's not good is it when they can't be assed to develope a proper version of FIFA.
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For a start, considering what the machine is doing during those hours, 3 is more than decent. You also get people moaning about power, but think about it, how can you have both anyway?

Secondly you said Switch doesn't support Frostbite and "thanks Nintendo". As you now know, it's the other way round so EA should be the subject of your Ire.

Lastly, Frostbite is hardly revolutionary anyway, it's really not a huge deal. I'd be more worried about the game being another cookie cutter fifa game or actually good.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Same as every Nintendo hardware release. Including wii u

We won't really know until xmas this year if this thing is gonna sink or swim
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Nintendo really are very shit at this whole manufacturing game aren't they?

I'm still waiting for the NES mini to be back in stock, despite the fact that the bastard thing was released months ago.

I've never known a company to consistently under estimate demand like Nintendo.
 
Redlambs said:
I know of a few games not announced that I want, but the real kicker here for me is even with those the first year looks dead already for games.

No one can deny those new videos of Zelda, Mario, Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart look absolutely fantastic, but there's a worrying lack of anything else even remotely close.

As for online, Splatoon and MK8 are easily two of the best online games to play in years, but yeah for free. Paying for online just to occasionally play 2 games, one of which really is an online only game, is way too much.


I'll get it, but looks like once again same old Nintendo.
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It's gutting mate. The WiiU was the first Nintendo console that I didn't buy and I'm hoping that they port across all of the top games onto the switch.

I really hope that the Switch gets the remastered Wind Waker as I absolutely love that one. A remastered Skyward swords would also be cool.

I think it was Olly in this thread that was talking about how great a Mario All Stars 2 on Switch would be. Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2 all remastered would be worth buying the console for alone.

I really hope they don't drop the ball with Switch, but it is increasingly looking like they haven't learnt any lessons from the WiiU :(.
 
Garethw said:
It's gutting mate. The WiiU was the first Nintendo console that I didn't buy and I'm hoping that they port across all of the top games onto the switch.

I really hope that the Switch gets the remastered Wind Waker as I absolutely love that one. A remastered Skyward swords would also be cool.

I think it was Olly in this thread that was talking about how great a Mario All Stars 2 on Switch would be. Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2 all remastered would be worth buying the console for alone.

I really hope they don't drop the ball with Switch, but it is increasingly looking like they haven't learnt any lessons from the WiiU :(.
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Agreed. They've got me right where they want me though. I can't miss the new Mario Kart/Smash Bros. games plus the possibly of new F-Zero is too much to resist.

I'd take a much smaller library of Nintendo games over anything anyone else can offer, so I'm in regardless.
 
Garethw said:
It's gutting mate. The WiiU was the first Nintendo console that I didn't buy and I'm hoping that they port across all of the top games onto the switch.

I really hope that the Switch gets the remastered Wind Waker as I absolutely love that one. A remastered Skyward swords would also be cool.

I think it was Olly in this thread that was talking about how great a Mario All Stars 2 on Switch would be. Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2 all remastered would be worth buying the console for alone.

I really hope they don't drop the ball with Switch, but it is increasingly looking like they haven't learnt any lessons from the WiiU :(.
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The Wii-U is a fantastic console. Contrary to popular belief, the power is fine (just look at how smooth the games generally run, neither the 360 or PS3 could pull off Mario Kart as well for example), and the screen really does work well when implemented properly. Plus, Splatoon.

However I've got about 15 games for it after what, 4 years? That's the kicker, and if Switch is the same then it becomes a question of what's the point?

The shitter is, if sales are weak in the first year because we are all waiting to see, then the games won't come. As I said before, it's a vicious circle.
 
12OunceEpilogue said:
Agreed. They've got me right where they want me though. I can't miss the new Mario Kart/Smash Bros. games plus the possibly of new F-Zero is too much to resist.

I'd take a much smaller library of Nintendo games over anything anyone else can offer, so I'm in regardless.
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That's the thing, the quality is so far beyond most others it's ridiculous at times. Especially online parts, how incredibly well balanced are the likes of Mario Kart and Splatoon? And easy to play for all levels of ability.

People often forget you buy Nintendo machines for Nintendo games first and foremost and are rarely let down. However, at those prices it really needs to be backed up with at least some variation otherwise I'll end up with the same few games that mirror the Wii-U collection. Which would be pretty sad on my shelf :(
 
Redlambs said:
That's the thing, the quality is so far beyond most others it's ridiculous at times. Especially online parts, how incredibly well balanced are the likes of Mario Kart and Splatoon? And easy to play for all levels of ability.

People often forget you buy Nintendo machines for Nintendo games first and foremost and are rarely let down. However, at those prices it really needs to be backed up with at least some variation otherwise I'll end up with the same few games that mirror the Wii-U collection. Which would be pretty sad on my shelf :(
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Yeah; Super Mario Switch, Mario Kart Switch, Super Smash Bros. Switch, Zelda Switch, Splatoon Switch, Some Terrible Sports Game Bullshit That Came Bundled With Your Console Switch, maybe F-Zero.

That lot would keep me out of mischief for a couple of years (perhaps cheekily supplemented with the odd XBox game) but I can fully understand why people are put off buying pretty much the same half dozen games every generation.
 
Garethw said:
It's gutting mate. The WiiU was the first Nintendo console that I didn't buy and I'm hoping that they port across all of the top games onto the switch.

I really hope that the Switch gets the remastered Wind Waker as I absolutely love that one. A remastered Skyward swords would also be cool.

I think it was Olly in this thread that was talking about how great a Mario All Stars 2 on Switch would be. Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2 all remastered would be worth buying the console for alone.

I really hope they don't drop the ball with Switch, but it is increasingly looking like they haven't learnt any lessons from the WiiU :(.
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Jesus, forgetting new games, they could just port/remaster the crap out of everything from the 64 on, and have the most amazing catalogue on a modern machine that you can handily play on tv at home, out and about, and in both cases is ridiculously easy for multiplayer with the joy-con nubs. :drool:

If they were on the ball, they could basically kill the Shield(and the at deaths door Vita), and phase out their own 2-3DS along with the WiiU, and have a freaking massive userbase.
 
Earthquake said:
Jesus, forgetting new games, they could just port/remaster the crap out of everything from the 64 on, and have the most amazing catalogue on a modern machine that you can handily play on tv at home, out and about, and in both cases is ridiculously easy for multiplayer with the joy-con nubs. :drool:

If they were on the ball, they could basically kill the Shield(and the at deaths door Vita), and phase out their own 2-3DS along with the WiiU, and have a freaking massive userbase.
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Christ, imagine gamers of today having to play Mario64 remastered, especially without the internet for help?

That would be hilarious :lol:
 
Tommy said:
$90 for a second dock which is, as far as we know, a charging station & HDMI pass-thru.

:wenger:
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To be fair, accessories prices tend to have a ridiculous RRP, and then come down in price drastically in sales.
 
Earthquake said:
Jesus, forgetting new games, they could just port/remaster the crap out of everything from the 64 on, and have the most amazing catalogue on a modern machine that you can handily play on tv at home, out and about, and in both cases is ridiculously easy for multiplayer with the joy-con nubs. :drool:

If they were on the ball, they could basically kill the Shield(and the at deaths door Vita), and phase out their own 2-3DS along with the WiiU, and have a freaking massive userbase.
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That would be awesome mate! Too good to be true though. I mean it took them four fecking years to get double dragon 2 onto the virtual console.
 
Redlambs said:
What did you mean about the port? It is the remastered version, or somewhere in between actually.

The remaster itself is just a 360 port with new textures and a few updates, there's no new engine on any of them.
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I tried to find post, but it must have been on twittter

But it was something along the lines of skyrim being the last gen version rather than the new remastered
 
@Redlambs why does it take so long for them to populate the virtual console on their machines?

I agree some might be 3rd party or have licenses. But those aside, is it not very easy to port them?

For some reason I really expected them to reveal a fully up and running VC yesterday with games from NES-GC

A portable/console were you could have every Zelda and Mario ever in one spot, surely would make them sell...
 
I did pre-order it yesterday morning but cancelled when I got home. Not sure if i'll bother with it, might just get a Wii U for now.
 
If I did get this console, it would only be fire Mario Kart and Smash Bros. Not sure if it's worth purchasing a whole console for two games.
 
Dan said:
I did pre-order it yesterday morning but cancelled when I got home. Not sure if i'll bother with it, might just get a Wii U for now.
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Yeah getting a wii u does seem like a good idea. Do you need the stupid controller?
 
Olly said:
Super Mario World was included with the SNES in the US. Not sure about other than that though.
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Randall Flagg said:
Mario 64 on n64. One of the all time greats
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Fair enough, but we're still looking at 20(+) years and 4 generations since it was seemingly the norm.


Randall Flagg said:
For some reason I really expected them to reveal a fully up and running VC yesterday with games from NES-GC

A portable/console were you could have every Zelda and Mario ever in one spot, surely would make them sell...
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Agreed. The VC could be a goldmine for them. The nostalgia is strong in Nintendo. We fans keep buying the same games over and over, after all. If they were to charge 10-15 USD for the average VC game and the VC has most of the games I want, then I'd easily use about half my gaming budget on those games. The Switch will probably only offer 5 or so games that I will buy(depending on how many Fifa games there'll be). But the VC can easily seduce me into buying 20 games across the SNES, N64 and GC.
 
Redlambs said:
Yeah, I wanted him to explain it if he could.

It's all well and good reading sites likes Neogaf and the like, but people should always take that stuff with a huge pinch of salt.

Of course Frostbite will work on the switch. In fact it'll work rather well. The fact is EA (despite being scumbags are probably right here) are waiting and seeing before they fully support Switch. It's got nothing to do with the console itself or Nintendo.
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We're talking about an engine that doesn't manage to run at native resolutions on much more powerful hardware. The PS4 version of BF1 runs at 1000p~ dropping to 900p during load, and the X1 version runs at 900p dipping to 720p at times... And that's with serious visual concessions already in place.

Put a last gen console in a tablet form factor & whatever Frostbite game (if any) comes out on the Switch is either gonna be the PC equivalent of running everything on low, or possibly run at sub 720p.

I know Nintendo aren't & haven't been known for the power of their hardware since the GC era, but Frostbite not working well on the Switch is a pretty safe bet. Yes, it's a scalable engine, but even the most scalable engines have limits.
 
Jep said:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1333776
Have a look here. Also that charge time might be whilst the unit is sleeping.

Think this will have an initial rush and then die. Fifa is rumoured to be an older version with updated player rosters and not just a ps360 port. Also you need a phone app for online chat.
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So someone using google translate. All rumours. Unless you want the latest most cutting edge tech, buy a xbox or ps for fifa. I dont think most people care if fifia is not the latest version (especially for the first release) to be able to play it on the go

I think the switch is going to be huge for nintendo. Not as big as the wii, but around the 3ds level.
 
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I wonder if the WiiU pro controller will work with the switch? They are selling for under £30.
 
Tommy said:
We're talking about an engine that doesn't manage to run at native resolutions on much more powerful hardware. The PS4 version of BF1 runs at 1000p~ dropping to 900p during load, and the X1 version runs at 900p dipping to 720p at times... And that's with serious visual concessions already in place.

Put a last gen console in a tablet form factor & whatever Frostbite game (if any) comes out on the Switch is either gonna be the PC equivalent of running everything on low, or possibly run at sub 720p.

I know Nintendo aren't & haven't been known for the power of their hardware since the GC era, but Frostbite not working well on the Switch is a pretty safe bet. Yes, it's a scalable engine, but even the most scalable engines have limits.
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Yes, which is why I said it's hardly cutting edge anyway. However, relatively it would run fine on the Switch but obviously needs work, which is why they are waiting.

Again though, as you rightly say, the engine isn't that great so it not being used on the switch is hardly worth worrying about.


On a side note I have preordered the Switch with Zelda, but I'm seriously considering cancelling it and just getting Zelda on the Wii-U. I'm hoping there's even more games I don't know about to come, because right off the bat I'm only interested in Zelda and Mario Kart, I don't care about Bomberman and a load of Indie titles I've already played. The first few months have like 2 or 3 games at most I'd want to play, and even Mario Kart isn't that much of a big draw since I've played 8 to death already.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Well the PS3 controller doesn't work with the PS4 and likewise with Xbox 360 and one

So it's no biggie that

It would be nice if they were a few quid cheaper though
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The Wii allowed you to plug in a GameCube controller though. The PS3 controller didn't have the touchpad that is used frequently with PS4 games so I have no issue with them not being compatible with each other.

But you just know that the WiiU and Switch pro controllers are going to be nearly identical. If the bloody things weren't so over priced it wouldn't even be a topic of discussion :lol:
 
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