Nicolas Otamendi | City Player
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25mil PLUS a defender they just spent 32mil on, is that right? Yes just a loan but obviously Mangala will be sold off next summer. Hopefully Otemendi works out as well as Mangala.
if Van Gaal has decided to bet on the current squad then I think that is a good decision, was a very expensive CB, but for me would be bad if now they decide to bid for De Vrij or another CB not so good.
Why would Mangala accept being loaned out now, says a lot about him.
I'm guess that means we're in for Stones, hopefully with Evans going the other way.
Agreed. Otamendi is good but it is a lot money for him, and for a player who has only hit the heights he has only in the last year or so.
Would also prefer us to buy the right player than a rushed centre back as you say also. But I think van Gaal has echoed that before, he will only sign players who will improve us. I suppose it is open to suggestion as to what he sees as an improvement!
Nah, Ramos doesn´t want to be a slave or train with the reserves...Personally I'm assuming this is a sign that Ramos is in the bag.
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That would be good, United should bet on more british players.
Nah, Ramos doesn´t want to be a slave or train with the reserves...
Sure a few extra million will ease the pain for him.
Interesting there's still been no announcement on his new 'deal', thought that was supposed to announced last week.
Re Otamendi he was never an option given LvG insists on a left footer, and the fact Smalling is finally proving he is actually pretty good, must admit I had my doubts in that score.
Completely forgot evans plays for us
It is not to disappoint you but I think the new contract will be signed shortly .Do you think that Blind can be a good CB?, I hope the experiment will turn out well for you but I would not trust for having won two games. Anyway City is doing a great team , imagine that attack if they sign De BruyneSure a few extra million will ease the pain for him.
Interesting there's still been no announcement on his new 'deal', thought that was supposed to announced last week.
Re Otamendi he was never an option given LvG insists on a left footer, and the fact Smalling is finally proving he is actually pretty good, must admit I had my doubts in that score.
City are a worry for sure, shame Spain doesn't have a oil rich club to get up the nose of Barca or Madrid, it's certainly a strange watch seeing a fairly mediocre club taken to where these guys have been.
Blind imo will never make it as a top class CB, not a chance, too slow and little, he started we in the DM role last season but was found out soon enough, for me he should be the LB cover and emergency CB/DM, we just better hope Rojo can be the player we need but I have my doubts, I have to be glad of a great midfield shield and DDG for one more season.
Absolutely sickening that city walks away with him when we desperately need a CB.
They aren't exactly walking away with him, they are forking out a lot on him.
I don't want this to happen if Mangala is involved. He's starting to look settled now and is showing signs of the defender we hoped we had signed. Hopefully these are just rumours but seems to be gathering a fair amount of momentum.
And losing a CB that looks to have acclimatized to the league. I also dont believe that we NEED a CB. if we got a worldie or a young up and coming talent then fine. Otamendi as much as i think he did fantastic last season, is neither.
Mangala is as dodgy as they come, its expensive for City but ultimately they'll be a lot stronger for it. Valencia getting a decent deal I guess, at that level Mangala might be okay.
Thats the thing. It is madness, but they dont have to care about the financial aspect now that FFP is pretty much worthless. He will be a great player for them and a year from now nobody will care how much he cost and what Mangala does/where he ends up.
So if Mangala decides he doesnt fancy Valencia is the deal off? Or would City stump up the 50m to get him? FFP gone crazy if KDB arrives as well, but some excellent signings just hope it doesnt work out.
I'd just sooner see Mangala stay, personally I'm happy with our CB choices currently at the club. I can see the benefit of having another excellent CB to choose from given Kompanys injury habits, but if Mangala leaves then we are in exactly the same position. I'm hoping that the deal is just a fix for the lack of payment Valencia were able to give for Negredo after having to contractually sign him, and we'll walk away with a good deal, but the rumours aren't great.
Only Otamendi isnt dodgy, thats why you seem willing to let Mangala go plus a lot of money for him. Otamendi has adjusted to a top league and has been one of the top performers in his position, Mangala hasnt
The Mangala loan makes little sense. Wouldn't they want a quality backup CB and not have to rely on Demechelis?
Yeah, a bit odd if they go into the season with 3 CB's or do they have a proper youth player for that position?
Agreed something strange here. We do have Denayer who has been promoted from the Academy. Makes more sense to loan him out. Mangala is a beast and I would be gutted to see him go.
Demichelis is a good back up though.
Regards the price, Valencia still allegedly owe City over £20m for Negredo which will be considered in the deal.
This has Mendes written all over it. It's debatable whether Mangala even has a say in it, but I doubt he'd complain. He's going to a top league who'll likely play in the CL. I think there was a tweet saying City will pay his wages too?
Demechelis was their best CB last year, wasn't he? Kompany was very hit and miss.
Do you need Denayer around to fill a HG slot in your squad?
Yeah Demichelis has been our best defender for the past two seasons now. As for Denayer he doesn't count as HG until he's had another year at the club.
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I think if he'd had come to United, he'd likely be replacing Smalling, rather than partnering him, so I'm not too fussed. Having said that, wish he wasn't going to City.
A lot of ifs and buts, but if he settles quickly and Kompany can rediscover his form from a couple of seasons back, they've got an absolutely quality CB pairing.
A lot of ifs and buts, but if he settles quickly and Kompany can rediscover his form from a couple of seasons back, they've got an absolutely quality CB pairing.
City can be an important stepping stone to becoming a top centre back. See Boateng, and maybe Nastasic and Savic.
Don't blame Mangala.
People need a bit of patience with CBs sometimes - you would have thought City might have learnt that after Boateng. I think Mangala will come good.
People need a bit of patience with CBs sometimes - you would have thought City might have learnt that after Boateng. I think Mangala will come good.
Some here seems never include protection of back 4 in talk about team defending,like lets get best LB CB CB RB in the world and we are set as best defend,no we are fecking not!
Lets take Chelsea as example,last night people could see few issues,i will mention 2,first Jose set them up in formation with 2 holding MFs in Matic and Cesc/Ramires,so you have one on each side,for me Matic(just like Carrick) always looked worse in that formation,because next to him isnt another Matic,his partner, like last night went AWOL in his duties,as result CBs pairing behind suffered.Players like Carrick and Matic will always look better imo in midfield 3 with point back, where they can only focus on their task and not to think about their part and part of their partner if they fail like Cesc/Ramires last night.
Second, Ivanovic case,in 2 weeks in a row he got roasted,last night sometimes where because his own shortcomings but in others i didnt notice any help from his partner on that side,nor you could see covering from holding MF on that side,so after some time Jose changed sides of his holdings and Matic went on right to help out,he failed because he needed to cover AWOL partner too.Kolarov and Sterling were doing what they wanted against Ivanovic.
All in all i believe if defensive unit of the team works,players like Blind or Romero and their weaknesses would be less exposed.
Lets take Chelsea as example,last night people could see few issues,i will mention 2,first Jose set them up in formation with 2 holding MFs in Matic and Cesc/Ramires,so you have one on each side,for me Matic(just like Carrick) always looked worse in that formation,because next to him isnt another Matic,his partner, like last night went AWOL in his duties,as result CBs pairing behind suffered.Players like Carrick and Matic will always look better imo in midfield 3 with point back, where they can only focus on their task and not to think about their part and part of their partner if they fail like Cesc/Ramires last night.
Second, Ivanovic case,in 2 weeks in a row he got roasted,last night sometimes where because his own shortcomings but in others i didnt notice any help from his partner on that side,nor you could see covering from holding MF on that side,so after some time Jose changed sides of his holdings and Matic went on right to help out,he failed because he needed to cover AWOL partner too.Kolarov and Sterling were doing what they wanted against Ivanovic.
All in all i believe if defensive unit of the team works,players like Blind or Romero and their weaknesses would be less exposed.
at the title changeLoaning Mangala now would be mental. They've gotten through the very worst of the adaptation period, so even if he doesn't reach the level they'd hoped for, to move him on now and leave yourself needing Otamendi to acclimatise immediately, or rely on an ageing Demichelis or unproven Denayer just seems ridiculously risky.
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