Nicolas Otamendi | City Player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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That cross from Xavi was better than my memory used to tell me. It deleted Rio out of the scenario. Its like this, if it dropped anywhere else apart from there, Rio clears that. Only thing I can say is maybe the RB should have pushed on Messi to make the header harder but Henry is probably somewhere near the edge of the box there and he has his eye on him.
that's incredibleI read that as madrid instead of arsenal, my bad
Thanks for this. Gonna have a read now
If I'm not mistaken none of Arsenal, Bayern or Barca ever signed a player represented by Mendes. United just needs to join in
.I'd be all for it. I've never understood our reportedly 'close' relationship with him.If I'm not mistaken none of Arsenal, Bayern or Barca ever signed a player represented by Mendes. United just needs to join in
Just finished reading that Guardian article. Bloody hell United need to slowly but surely get him away from the club. I don't care who we lose out on. I reckon the reason he hasn't been fined or disciplined by FIFA or whomever else, is that sadly quite a lot of 'top' people are probably in bed with him and benefiting from his dodgy deals. I am fervently hoping that no one at United is involved with him to that extent.
Also, someone like that is bound to piss some powerful person off sooner or later - and when that happens, they will go after him. United should have some foresight and be no where near him when that happens.
This might be reaching a bit - but it makes you wonder what he told Di Maria before we signed him. Did he promise to get him to PSG and to just bide his time with us, whilst extracting a huge fee and now one year later no doubt collecting another huge profit? I wouldn't be surprised if he did a back hand deal with PSG over all that either.
Also, someone like that is bound to piss some powerful person off sooner or later - and when that happens, they will go after him. United should have some foresight and be no where near him when that happens.
This might be reaching a bit - but it makes you wonder what he told Di Maria before we signed him. Did he promise to get him to PSG and to just bide his time with us, whilst extracting a huge fee and now one year later no doubt collecting another huge profit? I wouldn't be surprised if he did a back hand deal with PSG over all that either.
We should stay away from from now on. Otamendi is not that good anyway.
If I'm not mistaken none of Arsenal, Bayern or Barca ever signed a player represented by Mendes. United just needs to join in
Barca signed Deco but he's the only one i think.
That's one thing about the Guardian - they're very detailed about contentious issues & i've massive respect for them on that. So, when they do a piece on football - you know they've done their research & present it in a very compelling manner.
You make a very good point about Di Maria. I've said it many times on here, that i got the impression towards the end of last season, that Di Maria was deliberately playin his way out of the club & i still stand by that. He did in my opinion!
Someone so good, cannot be so ridiculously poor & continue to do everything wrong - like his multiple crosses into row Z (that looked so obvious he meant to overhit them) & running straight at defenders & not jinking around them - effectively consistently running into dead-ends - falling over & losing the ball etc. Those were red flags for me & others around me watching United games, in the last couple of months or so.
So, although you may think you might be over-thinkin things in relation to Di Maria & that prick Mendes - it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they did have an agreement with PSG to get him this summer, after missing out on him last summer because of FFP. Then all it took was for Di Maria to have a majority crap season & his price would depreciate due to poor form. Next step was for Di Maria to go AWOL during the summer & make it impossible for us to keep him.
Job done it seems from their side, so good riddance to that prick & hopefully in the near future we'll see & hear less of Mendes in matters relating to United too. I have a feeling we'll be reluctant to do any further deals of this kind again - especially if Mendes is involved.
United cant be happy about how this situation has panned out over the summer & the signs are there that Mendes is a very negative aspect with all our dealings with players - like the De Gea situation for instance.
Dave suddenly starts to play shite on the last game of pre-season tour. Convenient that was & now the likes of Marca, AS etc., have been fed stories that LvG wants rid of him because of that performance.
If Otamendi's agent is Mendes - then f*ck signing him. It was probably Mendes feeding all the stories that we wanted him at OT anyway. Otamendi's been acting like a right bollox towards Valencia also & how many of Mendes clients behave in that manner too - probably most of them at some stage, which offers the suggestion - is all that crap being instructed by Mendes?! I say yes it is!
I'd rather have Stones all day everyday - atleast we know what we're gettin & for 10-15 years service also. Hope United stay the f*ck clear of Mendes & that somehow Mendes is found out to be the dodgy bastard we all know he is & gets done for it sooner or later..
I agree. When has a Mendes deal benefited us? And don't talk about Ronaldo, because we eventually had to sell him when he was reaching his prime, after only getting 3 good seasons out of him. While I'm not saying we only buy British players, we should prioritise outstanding British talents, while keeping an eye out for players who suit the club better.
Dont worry man, i'd no intention of bringing up Ronnie. Mendes had been on the ball gettin Ronnie to Real for a couple of years, plus the Bebe deal & Di Maria & Dave situations now (plenty more scenario's we dont know about either too) - so there's no love for him from this mofo whatsoever.
I agree with the outstanding British players direction too - but only top-class or on the cuff of it.
Signing Shaw, proves the club have that exact mantra too & although Schneiderlin isnt British - he's been playin in the English leagues since 2008 & is top-class Prem proven, so that's another element to the direction we're still keeping an eye on & not just Galatico's as such.
It would be a great summer if we got Stones & the impossible, Bale / Ronnie. Pretty f*ckin sweet transfer window that would be - best one ever in my opinion..
Mother of God...
I think it's time we cut ourselves from him at all costs when it comes to future dealings even if that means missing out on most quality Iberian and Latin players. If we can build our team with more players from Northern Europe (Britain, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and even Scandinavia), I'm sure United would do just fine or even a hell lot better because we wouldn't risk the kind of bullshit we got with Mendes' clients and Tevez (who was also involved in a third party ownership issue).
So this one was BS all along?
Not sure, there were rumours we bid for him in January as well. Then again we've "bid" for Gaitan every summer since his 5th birthday by all accounts.
Deserved that. Delighted we were never in for him.
Hate transfer rumours, or maybe we didn't want to pay 50M Euros for him.
I just hope when we target players we do it because we think they're what we need not just cause they're good value. If we're bulking at a £35m valuation that suggests to me we don't rate him that highly as the man to take that LCB position. Would rather pass on him than try and get him for £25m or whatever just because we think it's good value.
What happened to that CB from the Russian league we were linked with earlier in the year?
Are we now interested in signing Otamendi again? Seen a tweet that we could move for him because of the Jones injury.
Apparently we are using the same negotiator as City.
lets offer them 49.999.999,99m.
Presumably bidding just under the release clause is something to do with the tax thing, same thing we tried to do with Herrera.
So this is back on then...
No. We were never interested. LVG wants defenders who are good on the ball. United sources describe Otamendi as another Gaitan story; an agent forever linking his client with United in order to boost his standing and perhaps attract other clubs.
The nature of the media in general and twitter is that they are desperate for clicks and stories, regardless of whether there is any truth in them. If an agent tells them United are about to bid for their client, then they will print it. In this case, even if he's been saying the same thing all summer.
Every comment I've seen from football fans in Portugal says that he was bang average while he was at Porto. I guess there really is some truth to the rumors that he wasn't outstanding until he moved to Valencia. Look at Mangala, he was actually decent at Porto but he's been a bit shit in England. Not saying he's gonna be bad, because obviously he is in his prime at 27 and has improved since then, I just hope he hits the ground running.
'United sources' have been proven to be completely clueless since LVG became our manager. Wouldn't believe a word that the likes of Odgen, Ducker and Ladyman say, they simply don't know anything. They going with 'we were never interested' IMO is more saying so cause nothing was happening despite the strong hint that we were going for him.
I don't think there is anything in this story at all. I just don't believe any of it.
Those aren't United sources, they are journalists. United sources are people working within the club, in some cases it means Woodward. LVG doesn't appear to want to leak info regarding transfers so it's not him.
You need to appreciate the Gaitan bit to realise it means the Otamendi story is nonsense. United sources need to retain some credibility for journalists to believe them in the future. They could easily have said he is not in our plans at the moment.
Seriously, we have just played Daley Blind at centre back when there were other options such as McNair or Evans. That tells you all you need to know about what LVG values in central defenders.
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Some players develop later, CB's that are excellent before the age of 25 are rare and when they become available they go for big money. I'd say his form at Valencia on a bigger stage against better teams and players overrules his "average" spell at Porto even if its only a season. I would certainly have some reservations but there is plenty of evidence out there at club and international level that show he's pretty bloody good.
Don't care if he's good, don't want to deal with Mendes.
LVG has said he has enough centre backs and won't dip into the market to get one to replace Jones unless one comes up that is significantly better than the 3 he already has at the club, naming McNair Jones and Smalling. He didn't mention Evans or Rojo unless he sees Rojo as a LB or a traitor after the ADM fiasco. Who knows with LVG
Should've listened more carefully. Jones, Smalling and McNair are the RCB's. Rojo, Blind and Evans are the LCB's which he didn't mention and it's likely Evans is on his way out if we do get a new LCB in.
It's so sad. if we could just sign this chap and play him next to Smalling we'd be so much more solid and likely to mount a genuine challenge, alas, it seems that LVG isn't really interested and that if we do sign a new CB he's likely to replace Jones/Smalling rather than Rojo/Blind.
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