I've no idea what gives you the impression he's already good enough to challenge for a midfield spot at United. I'm not convinced he'll ever be a CM, I could be wrong with that. He's definitely not ready to be one for us now though. Of that there is no doubt.
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I've no idea what gives you the impression he's already good enough to challenge for a midfield spot at United. I'm not convinced he'll ever be a CM, I could be wrong with that. He's definitely not ready to be one for us now though. Of that there is no doubt.
Powell was impressive for the reserves - scored a lot of goals - but didn't get on the ball enough. Januzaj was a big presence wherever he played.
It's a bit of a leap in the dark to say Powell is ready to play CM for the first team. He has no credentials for the role.
It's a bit of a leap in the dark to say Powell is ready to play CM for the first team. He has no credentials for the role.
What position did he generally play in the reserves?
I can see him being able to play as the most offensive of a midfield 3, or the more "neutral" player in the midfield 3. Similar to Lampard perfectly really. Whether be it:
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A bit like Ramsey too I guess as mentioned above. I really do like him.
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A bit like Ramsey too I guess as mentioned above. I really do like him.
We don't have space for him as a number 10 and won't have in a while with Rooney, Januzaj and Kagawa around (even assuming Rooney leaves in the Summer). As far as our team needs go right now he better adapts himself to a midfield role or stays on loan somewhere because he won't be getting much playing time up front or behind the striker.
I've watched a fair bit of him at Wigan and I do rate him. As Sarni said, though, there's no place for him any further up the pitch than midfield atm and that's the biggest concern.
There's definitely a place in the squad for him, but there's no way he should be starting games. I know our midfield is abysmal lately, but chucking Powell in there wont solve anything. I wouldn't recall him, let him have a full season in the first team at Wigan, a full pre-season with us, and he'll be much better off.
If he can't get a look in after pre-season period, I'd like to see him loaned to the PL side. Preferably somewhere where he would play in CM.
I'd say involve Kagawa in an eventual Gundogan deal and bring this kid back. He'll be a great cover/competition for Rooney in the hole.
Maybe he isn't a great trainer, but he produces it on the pitch, where it matters. I would rather have that than someone who is great in training but rubbish in games.
He won't be a competition for Rooney. Not even close to that. Kagawa isn't and he's a cultured, brilliant no.10. He would be an understudy, though, but he would still have Januzaj in front of him in the pecking order. Best for all parts is (for the time being): start playing CM or go on loan to a PL team for another season.
Powell was the best player for the reserves last season until he got injured. Januzaj then got going and pretty much took over the mantle. Powell is a quality player. Fergie said both he and Januzaj were guaranteed first teamers and I think that'll be the case soon enough.
His not a centre midfielder.. Give it a rest. Who is to say he can't be competition for Rooney, thats just a dumb comment the kid is 19.
It may get a bit crowded on his position because there's also Lingard who had already a magnificent pre-season with United and currently doing fine on loan.
Powell on the other hand is a potential that sooner or later will be at Barkley's level and has a real chance to go further than that.
Matter of time when Moyes will experience 'Fergie's headache' when his players will return. I just hope he won't say that they're like new transfers but the good news is that a lot of these youngsters can already play multiple roles on the pitch.
Powell on the other hand is a potential that sooner or later will be at Barkley's level and has a real chance to go further than that.
Matter of time when Moyes will experience 'Fergie's headache' when his players will return. I just hope he won't say that they're like new transfers but the good news is that a lot of these youngsters can already play multiple roles on the pitch.
I agree but out of the both I think Lingard has the tools to be a better centre midfielder. Both of them can be real quality.
I'm not saying he's anywhere near ready to play in CM for United, but I don't think it's a huge leap to suggest he could play there.
He's got excellent awareness, good composure on the ball, vision, good technique and the ability to pick out a pass. To be honest I think it's potentially his most suited position. It's more whether he'd actually be good enough.
He's certainly not suited to playing as a lone striker, which has been the frustrating thing with how he's been used since joining us and going on loan. It's pretty much as daft as trying to use Scholes in a lone front role.
He's got excellent awareness, good composure on the ball, vision, good technique and the ability to pick out a pass. To be honest I think it's potentially his most suited position. It's more whether he'd actually be good enough.
He's certainly not suited to playing as a lone striker, which has been the frustrating thing with how he's been used since joining us and going on loan. It's pretty much as daft as trying to use Scholes in a lone front role.
I agree with pretty much all you say. I would add that while he's gaining confidence at Wigan it would be better for his development to stay there.
I now worry a little for Will Keane, so highly rated until his injury and no doubt sent on loan to Wigan for similar reasons but appears to not be as favoured
For the time being you're right. However god knows what would happen in 3-4 years time.
I also hope we don't play him out of position.
No, the dumb thing is to say he's already good enough to compete with Rooney. And that's what we were talking about before you popped up.
Probably best he stays at Wigan. We're well stocked in the area he plays and he's doing great at wigan. Besides, how often is it that one of our loans actually goes well? Not very often and the last one was Cleverley, also at Wigan. Don't want to ruffle their feathers either if we can help it. Let's not forget he's not even 20 yet, and we plucked him from league 2. No harm at all in leaving him in the championship, he's playing and playing well.
Exactly. That's why it's essential we don't feck this one up. The kid has all the tools from what I've seen of him at Wigan. We need to be extremely methodical when choosing the right path for him.
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It's not soooo bad. I'm sure Moyes and new manager will talk in the next days about him. But yeah maybe he should go to a club where he's starter.
Didn't Powell, coming through Crewe's youth team play in midfield? I'm sure I remember him saying he's a midfielder that likes to create and I'm sure Dario Gradi or Sir Alex said something similar about Powell playing in midfield.
Anyway I remember he played deeper in midfield for the U21s this year after coming back from his injury. I feel he can play in that position and I see him more of a midfielder than a striker. Just don't see him as a forward. But obviously when I mean deeper in midfield it would have to be alongside someone more defensively minded.
Anyway I remember he played deeper in midfield for the U21s this year after coming back from his injury. I feel he can play in that position and I see him more of a midfielder than a striker. Just don't see him as a forward. But obviously when I mean deeper in midfield it would have to be alongside someone more defensively minded.
When we signed him SAF said that the idea was that Kagawa would play as a ten and Powell would play deeper as a more orthodox centre mid
I also see him more as a midfielder and get the impression he will adapt to whichever of the two roles we develop him for.
It's not Fergie anymore so he's unlikely to be shifted out to the wing
The first four words of that sentence still get me down
I would love powell back in January only if we did not get anyone in the transfer window. Otherwise it would be better if he stayed on loan.
Where do you get that impression from? From what you've seen of lingard, what spells out cm for you?
Have you? And what is much? I've watched enough to say that he is the same player that was in our reserves a year ago, with the same strenghts and weaknesses.
He isnt playing central midfield. Thats why he isnt making a lot of passes. I remember when Anderson used to average about the same, when playing in central midfield around the 19 mark. He's obviously got a lot to do to improve his central midfield game, but he's just a kid who has already shown flashes of extreme brilliance with his shot striking. Thats a side of a midfielders game that some of the better CMs never quite manage to get to grips with
Not in the squad for today.
Must be injured.
Probably Moyes' pre-historic training routines...
Probably Moyes' pre-historic training routines...
He's injured.
He came off at half-time in the last game.
He came off at half-time in the last game.
Where would you put Kagawa or Rooney (when RvP returns) in this set-up? Or even Fletcher and Jones?
Brainfart. Yeah I guess for now, that second option would be more ideal.
United are so big we get our players injured even when they're away.
Now, it's a retarded Mirror article and I normally don't go there, but apart from the statement that there is any possibility that we would sell Powell any time soon this suggested loan move would make a lot of sense. Hull are going well and are looking so strong at the back whilst playing a nice brand of football with their new midfield. Powell would surely get lots of opportunities to play up front or as one of a midfield 3 there and it would be a step up from Wigan atm. Bruce is someone we've trusted and been rewarded with his use of our loanees in the past. Can't really see any drawbacks to this move.
Thoughts?
I don't think he'd get in ahead of Hundredstone or Livermore in midfield, which means he'd mostly be picked up front. Premier League exposure is always a good thing, but I'd like to see him at a club that would play him in the middle.
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