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Bloody hell. Can't a youngster have a couple of injury layoffs without being written off based on feck all?

He's a very talented player, always in the top 3 performers for the u21s and is still only a young 19 (iirc). He's going to take time to adapt to playing in midfield and pick up the positioning/discipline but he's a top prospect.
 
Drainy said:
Bloody hell. Can't a youngster have a couple of injury layoffs without being written off based on feck all?

He's a very talented player, always in the top 3 performers for the u21s and is still only a young 19 (iirc). He's going to take time to adapt to playing in midfield and pick up the positioning/discipline but he's a top prospect.
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I'm not writing him off and I hope he does make it but I've just never been convinced, that's all.


Steven Seagull said:
Make it as what? What were you expecting from such a player and what do you think will eventually become of him?

I think people have strange expectations.
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First team regular. Probably that but in an top 5-7 club as opposed to a top 4 club. There's still time, of course, but I just don't really see it happening. United's midfield issues won't wait and when they are addressed, they're unlikely to be addressed for the short term in order to incorporate Powell.
 
That'sHernandez said:
No not at all but I thought we might have seen a bit more of him from the bench on occasion.
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Harsh he's 19 and it is his first season here he is too good for league two but he still would need to adjust he's coming in and he won't be the best player in the academy. Next year he needs game time prefarably at Premiership level that will allow him to build on what he has learnt, hopefully we can set that up. I know the midfield is not strong so you would expect a gifted youth to be getting games but Morrison and Pogba where better talents and they barely played. Pogba is impressing at Juve now and Morrison is finding his feet at Birmingham with the goal of being a regular at West Ham. Give him time.
 
I really liked the look of him playing the most advanced of the midfield vs Galatasary.
 
JaffyJoe said:
Januzaj ahead of Powell in terms of youngsters making it into the first team squad and getting games. I was wondering what Januzaj's best position is because if that is the same as Powell's he will get even less games. The games that would go to Powell would go to Januzaj who is younger and currently the better/more promising player.
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Powell has played in the PL and CL for us so I don't really think he's behind Januzaj in terms of getting into the first team. And they're not really competing for the same spot either. I think Powell, for us, will play in CM. SAF spoke of him as hopefully an heir to Scholesy (huge boots to fill) and he can also play the #10 role. Januzaj can play in any of the three positions behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1.

I reckon Powell would have gotten his first PL medal had he not been injured at the end of the season, which is unfortunate really.
 
We shouldn't look to loan out Januzaj. To be honest, we cannot trust other clubs. Some player's get lucky but too many horror stories. We should play them in the cups
 
JaffyJoe said:
What position does Januzaj play? because surely he is ahead of him in the pecking order. Loan may not be a bad idea. To a club where he will play week in week out. I think he could play at any of the promoted club but that would be a hard season for the lad but it would do him good. We need a goal scoring midfielder we haven't had one since Scholes' peak.
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Januzaj has played largely from wide positions, though he finished this season playing as a striker. Powell is definitely ahead of Januzaj for the simple fact that he's got more experience and is better developed, physically.

Having said that, Powell has had a nothing season and needs regular game time now, whereas Januzaj is knocking on the door of the first team and may get a chance before Powell is ready for the first team again. It is a tough one to call. If we bring in players like Thiago then Powell could do with a loan, but we'd have to be certain that he'd get game time. I'm predicting that if we reinforce our midfield, we'll keep Powell till January to get him games in the u21s before loaning him out for the second half of the season.
 
JaffyJoe said:
Januzaj ahead of Powell in terms of youngsters making it into the first team squad and getting games. I was wondering what Januzaj's best position is because if that is the same as Powell's he will get even less games. The games that would go to Powell would go to Januzaj who is younger and currently the better/more promising player.
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Cheers. I honestly know next to nothing about Januzaj (other than a few things gleaned from posts on here.) Good to hear we have what sounds like a very promising player in the ranks.
 
Wouldn't mind seeing him go to Palace this year. Could turn out to be a good replacement for Zaha. Holloway knows how to work with young talent too.
 
That'sHernandez said:
No not at all but I thought we might have seen a bit more of him from the bench on occasion.
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He was injured for pretty much an entire half of the season. A lot of niggles throughout coupled with a disappearing act from about March onwards. We would almost certainly have seen more of him had he been more fortunate.

Don't know how it'll pan out with him, mind. Powell and Januzaj's development will clash at some point even if they are to end up in different positions. Unless Powell matures massively as a centre midfielder, they will both be competing for a spot on the wing you'd think. A lot will depend on how Moyes sets us up in midfield - Fergie's formations made it extremely difficult for younger midfielders to break through.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Wouldn't mind seeing him go to Palace this year. Could turn out to be a good replacement for Zaha. Holloway knows how to work with young talent too.
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Agreed. Holloway seems to speak fondly of United. Closet fan, I bet. I reckon he'd give our kids a good go in his team.

Give them Henriquez too. Young Angelo could do worse than learn how to poach from Kevin Phillips.
 
Brightonian said:
Not a good idea. He'd have exactly the same experience as this year, except with Glen Murray keeping him out of the team rather than Arouna Kone.
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Glen Murray's a reasonable Championship player, but is he going to make the step up in the Premier League? He had one good Championship season, and one poor one, which preceded many years at League 1/2 level. I reckon it'll be another case of Ebanks-Blake. Decent in the Championship, but couldn't do it in the Premier League. I could be wrong, but I can't see him being a promotion-hit like Lambert and Holt were.
 
Lets not big him up too soon, I still remember some people at that time rate Gibson as high.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Glen Murray's a reasonable Championship player, but is he going to make the step up in the Premier League? He had one good Championship season, and one poor one, which preceded many years at League 1/2 level. I reckon it'll be another case of Ebanks-Blake. Decent in the Championship, but couldn't do it in the Premier League. I could be wrong, but I can't see him being a promotion-hit like Lambert and Holt were.
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I think he's exactly a Lambert or Holt. 'Good' and 'decent' don't describe his season well at all. He was irresistible at times, and a lot of very knowledgeable people in football have tipped him to excel in the PL. It would be a very unwise place to send Henriquez.
 
Brightonian said:
I think he's exactly a Lambert or Holt. 'Good' and 'decent' don't describe his season well at all. He was irresistible at times, and a lot of very knowledgeable people in football have tipped him to excel in the PL. It would be a very unwise place to send Henriquez.
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I guess Murray's got every chance of making an impact. I kinda hope he does actually as I do like him, but for some reason I have a feeling he won't. Alot of players are tipped to do well when making the step up, and some of the hotly tipped ones often slump, so I guess we won't know until he gets going. I guess I'm apprehensive about him making the grade in the top flight purely because of his age. He's 29, at the peak of his development. The chances of him getting even better at his peak don't seem too likely, I don't think. Then again, Holt and Lambert were no spring chickens, so I'm contradicting myself there. I'd like him to prove me wrong though. It's great when players come up with their promoted team and really start giving the Premier League a good kicking. Lambert being a great example. He's a League 2 player all over, right down to his awful celebrations, and then he's bending in free kicks and all sorts.
 
JaffyJoe said:
Januzaj ahead of Powell in terms of youngsters making it into the first team squad and getting games. I was wondering what Januzaj's best position is because if that is the same as Powell's he will get even less games. The games that would go to Powell would go to Januzaj who is younger and currently the better/more promising player.
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Januzaj isn't ahead of Powell in terms of likeliness of getting first team games, nor he is currently a better player than Powell.

Powell is only a year older yet has 7 first team appearances already including two CL starts, and would of likely had a lot more had he not been injured for the last few months of the season. Its unlikely Januzaj will match that in the coming season, although Powell is/was more ready physically.
 
SkeppyRed said:
Januzaj isn't ahead of Powell in terms of likeliness of getting first team games, nor he is currently a better player than Powell.

Powell is only a year older yet has 7 first team appearances already including two CL starts, and would of likely had a lot more had he not been injured for the last few months of the season. Its unlikely Januzaj will match that in the coming season, although Powell is/was more ready physically.
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Yeah i've been told. I just thought Januzaj was the best player at the academy/reserves....
 
I bet there isn't a lot, if anything, between Januzaj and Powell. It's just the circumstances of us paying good money for Powell and his League 1 experience that probably mean he'll get a chance first. Januzaj will probably feature out wide to begin with anyway.
 
The talk around Huddersfield is that Powell is joining Town for the season. Apparently Robins has flown over from Spain to complete the deal..

I'm sure pretty much all the Championship clubs are interested though.
 
RedRonaldo said:
Lets not big him up too soon, I still remember some people at that time rate Gibson as high.
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People had every reason to rate Gibson. He was a super talented young player and has gone on to establish himself as a first choice midfielder for a top 6 club.
 
Still not quite sure I'm happy with him going out on loan to a Championship side and I'm almost baffled as to why we didn't send him out last season if we're going to this time around (though didn't he get injured at one point and that stopped it from happening?). Would much rather we kept him on and gave him some game time or loaned him out to a PL club, which surely there'd be a couple interested.

I just don't see what massive benefit a season long loan does under a team like Huddersfield in the Championship. Wigan, maybe so (and I'm not sure what that nonsense post above is about Coyle. I'd expect under Coyle we could see somebody like Powell flourish).
 
niMic said:
He wasn't good enough for us though, which is really the point.
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It wasn't the point at all actually. He was making a point that someone rating Gibson was an idiotic thing to do when he was breaking through when in fact he was very close to making it with us and has made it one level down from us.
 
Seeing what our options have been (playing Giggs, Jones and even Rafael in the middle) lately, one may seriously challenge the claim that Gibson wasn't good enough. Not good enough to start for United in CM against top notch opposition? Certainly not, no argument there. Good enough to be a squad player and an alternative at CM? Very much so, I'd say.
 
Irwynwastheking said:
It wasn't the point at all actually. He was making a point that someone rating Gibson was an idiotic thing to do when he was breaking through when in fact he was very close to making it with us and has made it one level down from us.
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A whole lot of players are "very close to making it with us" if those are the criteria, though. I think most people never believed he would be good enough to play for us regularly.
 
niMic said:
A whole lot of players are "very close to making it with us" if those are the criteria, though. I think most people never believed he would be good enough to play for us regularly.
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Not as many were as close as Gibson, and very few have gone on to be first choice CM in a top 6 team. Anyway, the time we are talking about was when Gibson was just about to break into the first team (where Powell is now) and there's no doubt that he was seen as a top top prospect who had every chance of going all the way.
 
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