Why did he try so hard to not stay in bound? 
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AT&T Stadium may be falling apart, like the Cowboys season has.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/metal-falls-from-att-stadium-roof-before-dallas-cowboys-game
https://www.fox4news.com/news/metal-falls-from-att-stadium-roof-before-dallas-cowboys-game
Sounds like a perfect excuse to ask for more tax incentives by the Cowboys bc billionaires don't pay their own shit if they don't have to.
No worries, our next president will have Mexico pay for it.
Or at least award a government contract for it and have that money disappear into the pockets of unqualified buddy contractors and donations for it in the pocket of Steve Bannon. Perfect.
We’re a joke. I can watch Dune, Cross, Day of the Jackal, and a myriad of shows but I’m watching this bag of shite play football like an expansion team.
2 fumbles by the Cowboys on a single play
Might not be the best idea in pro football to let Cooper Rush throw it 55 times 
Typical Mike McCarthy coaching masterclass.Might not be the best idea in pro football to let Cooper Rush throw it 55 times
Cowboys might be looking at a top 5 pick at this rate
It's 4am in Dallas so there's still time but he shouldn't make it past today if we're being honest. Undoubtedly will, though.
The Packers even kinda showed them the blueprint of how to win with your backup QB earlier in the season when Love was out. They have Lance with a similar skillset to Malik Willis as well to try to go by. I know the game was closer than the actual end result, think it was still 20-10 when the Texans D returned that fumble for a TD but it never once felt like the Cowboys would do anything in this one. Rico Dowdle with a nice 10 rushes for 28 yards yards line but Derrick Henry was too expensive in the offseason, sure...
Which was the worse contract at the time of signature?
Daniel Jones: 4 years, 160.000.000$, 82.000.000$ guaranteed
or
Deshaun Watson: 5 years, 230.000.000$, all guaranteed
While Watson obviously has the insane complete guarantee and is a gigantic tool, he at least did play like a pro bowl calibre QB at one point in time.
Jones‘ contract isn’t as bad, but on the other hand, he never ever came close to looking like a pro bowl QB and was, even at his very best, bang average. So unlike with Watson, there really was no reason to believe he could ever justify the money.
I’m leaning slightly to Jones. Simply because Watson was a good QB at one time.
Daniel Jones: 4 years, 160.000.000$, 82.000.000$ guaranteed
or
Deshaun Watson: 5 years, 230.000.000$, all guaranteed
While Watson obviously has the insane complete guarantee and is a gigantic tool, he at least did play like a pro bowl calibre QB at one point in time.
Jones‘ contract isn’t as bad, but on the other hand, he never ever came close to looking like a pro bowl QB and was, even at his very best, bang average. So unlike with Watson, there really was no reason to believe he could ever justify the money.
I’m leaning slightly to Jones. Simply because Watson was a good QB at one time.
To me, Watson hands down. They knew what he was when they signed him, and I couldn't be happier that it worked out the way it did. Browns fans remind me of Jets fans. They freak out over the shiny new QB and plan their Superbowl trip only to have their hopes crushed by week 3.
At the time of signature, Watson looked like a 1st tier QB the last we had seen him and Jones just looked...like, I don't know, a valuable fantasy asset.
Factor in the circumstances of the assets given up in the trade and everything else, then the Watson fiasco is still worse.
Watson every day for me. His contract massively reset the QB market for guarantees. And the compensation given up to acquire him was also costly. The league should not have permitted any contract talks nor trade talks with all his legal woes ongoing and probable suspension looming, let alone the first year contract language knowing a suspension was likely. And he had sat out a full year so there was no way to determine if he'd return to prior form, plus fitting in a new system and with a much bigger spotlight per the contract and his sexual predation. Watson should have lost his job during this season before the injury but I firmly suspect there was upstairs pressure. He's going to kill their cap the next two years at $73m cap hit per year barring them kicking the can down the road again with restructuring. They have to retain him for 2025 or face a $172.77m dead cap hit, or $99.835m in 2026. Cleveland is fecked either way.
In fairness to Jones, despite a shit contract decision by the Giants which was arguably the 2023 market rate for a starting caliber QB (and still with possible upside), he had come off a 2022 season in which he ranked 1st in INT%, t-5th in CMP%, and 6th in QBR, in a system that wasn't much of a high volume passing scheme as reflected in his pedestrian passing yards and TD totals and advanced metrics. He was the epitome of a capable busdriver that year but there was still potential upside that maybe he would progress another level, look at Rich Gannon's career for example. The Giants can get out from under this contract in 2025 at $22.2m or in 2026 at $11.1m.
The Giants gambled on progression and lost. The Browns gambled ridiculous cap crushing money on a sexual predator who had sat out a year and have lost in hysterical fashion.
Plus the Brown's gamble pushed out Baker, who's now doing pretty great at Tampa.
How are so many of these talk shows discussing Cowboys getting Deion and drafting his son. They literally just gave their QB a 60 million an year contract
So fans will react. Any publicity is good publicity for these shows. And it further solidifies this meme.
Cowherd made a good point though imo. Denver did the same with Wilson but cut their losses and drafted a (not even that promising) QB in Nix. Who is now a co-frontrunner for OROY and has them in a playoff spot midway through the season.
It won't happen, agreed, and I don't think Shedeur Sanders is even good enough to turn around that franchise to begin with, but the strategy as such isn't the worst idea in the world. It's what Cleveland should've already done with Watson as well.
I don't think that those are comparable tbh. Dak is still a pretty good QB and to take so much dead money for him would be crazy.
I really don’t understand what happened here. You can see someone on the Seattle sideline move to the ref who then runs into the field. And the Seahawks water boy/towel guy comes running straight onto the field. MacDonald’s reaction is pretty clear, and then suddenly it’s just not a timeout?
Woodson should get his deserved call someday, hopefully this year. Still madness Lynch got in ahead of him.
Doesn't look like there's any coming back for Danny Dimes.
He stole a living. The cash he bagged being so horrible is amazing.
Was looking at QB stats properly for the first time. Couple things stood out.
- This is by far Mahomes worst season as a QB, and yet they are 9-1.
- It feels like passing TDs are way down across the board? Is that true?
- This is by far Mahomes worst season as a QB, and yet they are 9-1.
- It feels like passing TDs are way down across the board? Is that true?
Regular Season Week 12
New
Amazing how every game in this division is impossible to predict
Absolutely incredible weather for this game
Has turned into a proper snow game now.
Is being accused of sexual assault one of the mandatory qualifications on the browns qb job description?
What a throw by Russ while taking a brutal hit
Yep, it's right alongside not being very good.
Second shanked punt of the game, one from each team.
i'm totally out of the loop on this. I know he's trash, but what happened to force this kind of statement / the reporting he's now QB4?
Did he try a "i either play or I'm on strike" or was it a contract stipulation? I can see QB 1 and 2 swapping, but QB 1 to QB4? What happened?
If he gets injured then some more of his contract gets guaranteed, so they don't want him risking injury to make it as cheap when they cut him after the season. Was the same deal with Russell Wilson in Denver last year.
thanks for that! Makes sense. I was thinking contract stuff seemed the most likely.
Tomlin is absolutely awful in game and with timeouts. This team will be 1 & done in the playoffs again
Also Carr in Vegas if I recall correctly. Contact guarantees you’re given to protect against injury end up benching yourself once the front office decides you’re not part of the long-term future; an oddity in the current state of things.
Anyways, that TNF snow game was terrific fun, even though - or maybe because - I was rooting against both teams.