Quite a good Frontline doc that was made into an equally good book.
NFL 2023
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You know offseason has almost reached its peak when Twitter loses its collective mind over some obscure guy throwing a pass to Rashee Rice who is covered by a DB wearing Mahomes' #15 jersey.
If Purdy comes back healthy than based on the small sample size he's at least as good, if not better, than most of the guys in T6. I think he's going to have a better career than Tua too. Stafford seems to be damaged now and the way Kyler is going he doesn't look good going forward.
Patrick Mahomes will be playing football a 4-hour drive away from where I live
Gonna jump in that 1 million queue right away when it opens up.Also interesting advantage for the Jags who get back-to-back London games and won't have to travel before their Wk 5 Bills game. Does Wembley only have one NFL game left per season anymore? Thought it was split at two a piece between them and Tottenham.
The Jags are going to eventually be a London franchise aren’t they?
Raven’s v Titans would be good just to see Lamar and OBJ, but Jags v Bills is the obvious standout fixture for London.
I found it pretty easy to get Wembley tickets last year, was it more difficult for Spurs stadium as I saw everyone moaning online about it.
I found it pretty easy to get Wembley tickets last year, was it more difficult for Spurs stadium as I saw everyone moaning online about it.
Didn’t like the tube access for Tottenham Stadium so will try and get tickets for Wembley game
The logistics are certainly there for it, they'll do it if they feel like there's an expanding market in the UK/Western Europe for the NFL. Might help that Khan already has a London-based sports team as well, and I think the NFL has already shown that they don't care too much about the local fans in NFL cities (Oakland, San Diego, St. Louis as very recent examples).
For the East coast teams it's a non-issue, and even LA-London is "just" a 10-hour direct flight. If you take a London trip into account when drawing up the league's schedule and make it so that West coast teams (or any team) has their bye before or after a London trip, then it's entirely feasible.
We should also get a Super Bowl then though. Super Bowl 2030 in a revamped 61k seater at Anfield
Of course they plan Mahomes v Burrow at a time when I'll likely be smashed, ffs.
Sure seems as such.
It has been the rumor for years.
Maybe, I need to see more to be convinced - I know draft position isn't the be-all & end-all but it's hard to believe all 32 teams were so far off in evaluating his talent level. We so rarely see day 3 picks at QB make it to that sort of tier - only recent ones I can think of being Cousins and Dak, who only fell because of a severe injury. I don't think we've had any guys going in this sort of round 6, 7, undrafted range since the likes of Fitz and Cassel and that was nearly 20 years ago.
He could well be that sort of tier, then again it could just be Shanahan and his ability to construct an offence that makes a QB look and play 2 tiers better than he actually is.
It's this. He didn't even play that well and the underlying metrics/stats back that up. Someone like Howell (5th rounder last year) would almost certainly do equally as good (and I'd say much better) than Purdy in a Shanahan-led offense.
It was a nice story last year but I'd be surprised if Purdy becomes a solid NFL starting QB.
It's an admittedly small sample size, but it seems to be universally agreed that he was better than Jimmy G in the system, who was drafted much higher and has had a reasonable level of performance (when fit) for most of his career. This is the only real benchmark we have right now. The team seem high on him too, especially the bigger characters in the dressing room, and they have never warmed to Lance the way they did with Purdy so that also says something in my opinion.
Yes it has.
The Back to back games offer just another mini experiment to see how logistics could work for longer periods, I guess.
I wonder how long it will actually take to happen, if at all.
I wonder if it would be sustainable long term, is there enough novelty for neutrals to keep going to Jags games in perpetuity, I would imagine most times they'd have no issue selling out Wembley or wherever, but at some point you would think the novelty could wear off?
Surely they’d use Spurs’ stadium? 62k every few weeks for half the year seems doable.
It shouldn't be any different than LA teams and in particular the Chargers. They had to build a brand new fanbase and it eventually happened even though it's a tough city for professional sport. A fair amount of people like the NFL in europe and the London Jaguars will get a fanbase and also host many NFL fans from the continent.
Though if the NFL look at stats and fanbases, the oversea franchise should probably be in Germany.
I wonder if the "language barrier" makes London a better prospect for a European base, I know the level of English speakers in Germany is high, but it seems like the NFL basically have everything in-house already for another English speaking country.
No, it was likely just a business decision. Most NFL Europe teams were on the continent and specifically between Germany and Netherlands.
Jacksonville may never have had an NFL franchise had the league not feared potential post-awarding legal woes with a St Louis group. The league went with Wayne Weaver's wealth and the league's second smallest media market* got a pro football club despite being in close regional proximity to three established franchises and being a noted college football area. Weaver had been recruited to the St Louis group but felt the city would never have a football team ahead of its cherished baseball franchise. Baltimore arguably deserved the 30th club over both considering how Irsay literally left town after midnight in March 1984 but they also had too many groups bidding and rumored that alleged asshole and bully Jack Kent Cooke was waging war internally against a rival next door, and he was probably the most powerful owner in the league in the early 90s and possibly in American sports at the time. And take a guess what known leech was part of one Baltimore expansion bid who would end up crushing hearts in Manchester later on.
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29462/11-expansion-teams-just-missed-cut
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/01/...-expansion-surprise-jacksonville-jaguars.html
*Green Bay but they're an OG; they certainly wouldn't have a chance for a franchise post-merger had they not already existed
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29462/11-expansion-teams-just-missed-cut
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/01/...-expansion-surprise-jacksonville-jaguars.html
*Green Bay but they're an OG; they certainly wouldn't have a chance for a franchise post-merger had they not already existed
Its still amazing to me that San Diego, despite being the nation's 8th biggest city, doesn't have a team and yet the likes of Jacksonville, Vegas, Green Bay and Tennessee do.
I don't know how I'd feel about the Jags moving to London. I'd feel compelled to support them seeing as they'd be local and I could go to games all the time, but switching allegiances is punishing by death as we all know.
Seeing a completely new franchise set-up from scratch and built though would be pretty cool. Would have loved to have been a fan watching the whole process with the Texans in 2002.
Seeing a completely new franchise set-up from scratch and built though would be pretty cool. Would have loved to have been a fan watching the whole process with the Texans in 2002.
If Spanos didn't refuse to finance a stadium in San Diego, they would have a team.
I think the NFL needs to fix that by giving them a new franchise.
Count your blessings, otherwise you’d be a Texans fan right now.
They should be I doubt that it will happen soon. I wouldn't be surprised if they focus on Germany and Mexico after London.
Ummm…
JAX seems a bit low even with a UK trip, but they benefit from having all their conference foes in the same time zone iirc.
Same time zone, plus they are geographically closer to most teams than the Dolphins.
Thankfully for Seattle & SF, jet lag is a myth & doesn’t exist.
I saw that SF had the 15th SOS, do they factor in the travel distance/time zones to this calculation, or is it purely on the opposition?
Good question. Dunno myself.
Six years after Kareem Hunt exploded for 246 scrimmage yards and 3 TDs in the opening game of the season for the Chiefs against the Pats, Jahmyr Gibbs will rush for 100+, catch for 100+ and total 5 TDs in a Lions dub. Let's fecking go.
I think the Lions will grow as the season goes on and will be a play off team but that’s not a great spot for them