NFL 2023

Texans b2b.

Has this ever happened before?

Wasn’t allowed to practice on Tuesdays in high school to give the offense the ability to practice without chaos. :lol:
 
That trade may be good for Houston but rough for CJ Stroud. They're short on weapons; I thought they'd grab JSN at 12.
 
Didn't expect the Seahawks to pass on Carter but having Witherspoon and Woolen as a combo at corner is :drool:
 
Would be nice to see Carter fall out of the top 10 to the teams he refused to visit.
 
This'll be Carter to the Cardinals then.
 
It's quite funny how a team in the last Super Bowl ends up with the highest rated player in the Draft at 9.
 
Apparently McAfee is 5 minutes ahead of the TV feed. I was wondering how people knew about the Bijan pick minutes before it was announced.
 
P-Ro said:
It's quite funny how a team in the last Super Bowl ends up with the highest rated player in the Draft at 9.
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Still a massive risk that guy. I am not sold on him.
 
feck me. Gibbs to the Lions with the 12th pick.
 
Well feck, I guess I underestimated Gibbs then. Let the hipster analysts with their fancy rushing efficiencies talk me out of him.
 
It would be great if we traded up and got Flowers but it's looking more and more unlikely now.
 
Any word on the Packers picking Van Ness? What to expect of him?
 
I've just read back The Guardian's live tracker to see how it went. It was fulllll of clanger typos, but this was probably the top one. :nervous:

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The Texans giving up a 1st next year with that roster. Woof.
 
JJ12 said:
The Texans giving up a 1st next year with that roster. Woof.
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They still have a 1st left next year from the Watson trade - had 12 picks this year and 11 next year so definitely draft capital enough to make that move imo. Actually for all the crap I've given them, love how they played this out. Get your potential franchise QB at #2 instead of fecking around and then give your new HC and former Niners DC his guy on defense. Loved this move, although sticking to #12 and drafting some help for Stroud would've been nice as well - guess that's what they'll focus on from now on in this draft, or at least they should.

Winners: as always, Eagles with a very solid round as well imo - best prospect in the class and another Georgia defender to add to an already stacked front seven, that's just scary. Great move by the Cardinals also to get some additional draft capital and still get the guy they want. Same for the Pats, moving down and getting a top-10 player with Gonzalez was a great move. Vice versa the Steelers did well to move up a few spots (and more importantly ahead of the Jets, I think) to get Pickett some much-needed protection. And lastly I think the Seahawks had a great round, they're set at CB for the foreseeable future now and they have their replacement for Lockett next year or the year after that with the best WR in this draft. Still wonder if they would've taken Richardson at #5 if the Colts didn't - might've changed the entire draft because then the Lions wouldn't have traded down at #6.

What I didn't like was the Bears not drafting Carter, but I guess them wanting to protect Fields a bit more makes sense as well. Also think the Lions panicked when the Seahawks nabbed Witherspoon in front of them - essentially what many thought that Gibbs' role would be in the NFL is exactly what D'Andre Swift does best, so not sure how they'll fit both of them into their offense.

For fantasy: weird to see how the fantasy community was right on Kincaid, while Michael Mayer was widely regarded as (by far) the top-rated TE in this class at the conclusion of the college football season. Zay Flowers getting first round capital is great, Zay Flowers paired to the Ravens' notoriously bad offense for WRs: not so much. I wished the Chargers would've gone Addison over Johnston but the selection makes sense I guess. Don't like Addison stuck behind JJ now. And Richardson, fourth overall fecking hell. Gonna be a fun ride to see what he can do.

Oh and Will Levis though :( Some may find it funny but I always feel for the guys being in the green room and ending up not getting selected, that must be tough.
 


That's such a shocking lack of understanding positional value. The likes of Van Ness and Gonzalez were still on the board at 12.
 
Considering what the top RB’s actually make right now it makes no sense to me to take Gibbs at 12 for a team like the lions
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Considering what the top RB’s actually make right now it makes no sense to me to take Gibbs at 12 for a team like the lions
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But what if they are a generational talent? They could transform their offenses immediately.
 
HTG said:
But what if they are a generational talent? They could transform their offenses immediately.
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Well as per most people the generational talent was Bijan and lions could have just taken him at 6 then. I think Gibbs will be good but I am just not sure that this was the move for a team on the verge of being a contender
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Well as per most people the generational talent was Bijan and lions could have just taken him at 6 then. I think Gibbs will be good but I am just not sure that this was the move for a team on the verge of being a contender
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I was being sarcastic. I firmly believe that picking RBs in the first round is sheer stupidity.
 
RobinLFC said:
They still have a 1st left next year from the Watson trade - had 12 picks this year and 11 next year so definitely draft capital enough to make that move imo. Actually for all the crap I've given them, love how they played this out. Get your potential franchise QB at #2 instead of fecking around and then give your new HC and former Niners DC his guy on defense. Loved this move, although sticking to #12 and drafting some help for Stroud would've been nice as well - guess that's what they'll focus on from now on in this draft, or at least they should.

Winners: as always, Eagles with a very solid round as well imo - best prospect in the class and another Georgia defender to add to an already stacked front seven, that's just scary. Great move by the Cardinals also to get some additional draft capital and still get the guy they want. Same for the Pats, moving down and getting a top-10 player with Gonzalez was a great move. Vice versa the Steelers did well to move up a few spots (and more importantly ahead of the Jets, I think) to get Pickett some much-needed protection. And lastly I think the Seahawks had a great round, they're set at CB for the foreseeable future now and they have their replacement for Lockett next year or the year after that with the best WR in this draft. Still wonder if they would've taken Richardson at #5 if the Colts didn't - might've changed the entire draft because then the Lions wouldn't have traded down at #6.

What I didn't like was the Bears not drafting Carter, but I guess them wanting to protect Fields a bit more makes sense as well. Also think the Lions panicked when the Seahawks nabbed Witherspoon in front of them - essentially what many thought that Gibbs' role would be in the NFL is exactly what D'Andre Swift does best, so not sure how they'll fit both of them into their offense.

For fantasy: weird to see how the fantasy community was right on Kincaid, while Michael Mayer was widely regarded as (by far) the top-rated TE in this class at the conclusion of the college football season. Zay Flowers getting first round capital is great, Zay Flowers paired to the Ravens' notoriously bad offense for WRs: not so much. I wished the Chargers would've gone Addison over Johnston but the selection makes sense I guess. Don't like Addison stuck behind JJ now. And Richardson, fourth overall fecking hell. Gonna be a fun ride to see what he can do.

Oh and Will Levis though :( Some may find it funny but I always feel for the guys being in the green room and ending up not getting selected, that must be tough.
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Wonder how much that will change this year with their new OC, I've seen a lot of Ravens fans who felt Greg Roman was the biggest issue when it came to their lack of WR usage and they've added OBJ and now Flowers for Lamar to use.

Yeah, felt sorry for Levis being left. There were a few others still in there as well but at least those guys barely got shown. With him, you had the constant cuts back to show him just waiting.
 
Really pleased with the Eagles two picks but hey it’s impossible to predict what will happen after the draft. Hopefully Jordan Davis can take a step up in his second season because he didn’t give us much last year
 
Hephaestus said:
Wonder how much that will change this year with their new OC, I've seen a lot of Ravens fans who felt Greg Roman was the biggest issue when it came to their lack of WR usage and they've added OBJ and now Flowers for Lamar to use.

Yeah, felt sorry for Levis being left. There were a few others still in there as well but at least those guys barely got shown. With him, you had the constant cuts back to show him just waiting.
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Yup, total of 38 times he was shown or something like that, I read this morning. First time ever I tried to watch the whole thing in full on demand, but after around pick 13-16 I started skipping the parts between the "SELECTION" signs, too spun out for me.

Monken might indeed be an upgrade yeah (hard to see how he's not) but Flowers is still landing in a low-volume spot, you'd be foolish not to use Lamar's strength as a runner to the fullest as his OC. That, combined with the addition of OBJ and presence of Andrews and Bateman, is just not that ideal for a great rookie year, likely.

I also think I jumped the gun by saying the Texans did great. I loved that they got Stroud and traded up for "their guy" on defense, but if you look at who they could've picked at #12 without giving up their own 24 1st (they kept the Browns'), then they gave up more than what the perceived difference between Will Anderson and someone like Van Ness, Gonzalez or Nolan Smith, probably.
 
I love the fact that the Vikings went receiver, with all the rumors I thought that my favored option wasn't going to happen.
 
HTG said:
I was being sarcastic. I firmly believe that picking RBs in the first round is sheer stupidity.
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Why? Having an elite back for 4 or 5 years is a massive advantage. The "stupidity" comes when those organisations choose to hand massive contracts to those players.
 
RobinLFC said:
I also think I jumped the gun by saying the Texans did great. I loved that they got Stroud and traded up for "their guy" on defense, but if you look at who they could've picked at #12 without giving up their own 24 1st (they kept the Browns'), then they gave up more than what the perceived difference between Will Anderson and someone like Van Ness, Gonzalez or Nolan Smith, probably.
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Terrible deal to not keep their own pick. That pick could be Caleb or May, who teams will be desperate to trade up for, or a #1 WR which they desperately need.

I think I'm going to pledge allegiance to the Eagles; I have just cause since they have an OU QB. Can't believe they got those two defenders. Nolan Smith is one of my favorite guys to watch on defense.

Cowboys fans are bitter about not getting Mayer, and I can see why. His best comp really was Jason Whitten.
 
RobinLFC said:
Yup, total of 38 times he was shown or something like that, I read this morning. First time ever I tried to watch the whole thing in full on demand, but after around pick 13-16 I started skipping the parts between the "SELECTION" signs, too spun out for me.

Monken might indeed be an upgrade yeah (hard to see how he's not) but Flowers is still landing in a low-volume spot, you'd be foolish not to use Lamar's strength as a runner to the fullest as his OC. That, combined with the addition of OBJ and presence of Andrews and Bateman, is just not that ideal for a great rookie year, likely.

I also think I jumped the gun by saying the Texans did great. I loved that they got Stroud and traded up for "their guy" on defense, but if you look at who they could've picked at #12 without giving up their own 24 1st (they kept the Browns'), then they gave up more than what the perceived difference between Will Anderson and someone like Van Ness, Gonzalez or Nolan Smith, probably.
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Don't blame you, there was so much filler in between the picks.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll still be using his ability as a runner, just less than last year. And it's maybe not the ideal spot for a big rookie year but I don't think any of the receivers wound up in a great spot for volume in year 1 - JSN has Lockett and Metcalf, Johnston has Keenen Allen and Mike Williams and Addison has JJ and Hockenson.
 
Wonder if we’ll see many if any veteran trades after the first round.

DHop has been on the table all off season.

Swift now with Gibbs and they already picked up Montgomery.

Bateman outside chance?
 
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