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NFL 2023
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Yeah I also saw those Tweets, meant "right now". Lamar might look foolish in hindsight right now to have turned down that offer but if the market was set at Watson's contract instead of what Hurts is getting right now, then he'd be selling himself short back then by signing it. I think he wishes he'd have signed that offer from the Ravens right now though.
Let's ride! It being at the 'Arrowhead' golf course makes it better.
Even a rookie agent would have told him to take the deal way back when. There was no possible way the owners would have let the Watson deal change the market. That collusion was shown crystal clear with the Hurts deal.
Now it is clear of course, but that's in hindsight. The QB market is ever-changing, even the Mahomes deal looks like a steal right now. What if the Eagles had offered Hurts $300m and the Bengals offer Burrow more than that in the near future? Lamar would've looked like a fool accepting less money than Watson did, being the better player.
You can argue that an agent might've had discussions with or direct lines to the owners to get a feel of the entire situation and Lamar didn't do or didn't have that, but there's no way to know for certain.
But it isn't even hindsight. Everyone knew that Watson deal was an outlier and wouldn't re set the market. It doesn't even take collusion to come to that conclusion. Any competent agent that was chatting to over teams and other agents with high profile qbs could have told him that though.
As far as I know, there isn't any proof of that.
It was common sense. Multiple owners even came out and said so.
The Baltimore Ravens: Team owner Steve Bisciotti admitted after Watson’s deal that “damn, I wish they hadn’t guaranteed the whole contract.” He added: “It doesn’t necessarily mean we have to play the game
They were never going to make fully gtd deals a thing
That's the reaction from the one owner who knew he had to pay Lamar in the very near future. Like I said, I haven't seen any proof of it being common knowledge so any discussions about that are pure speculation unless you can point me to some publicly known evidence.
Jerry Jones after signing Prescott to a long-term deal:
There are definitely one or two teams in the league who want to pay Lamar what Hurts is getting now, no two ways about that imo. It's just that they'd need to give up 2 firsts in order to do it this offseason and that's probably too much.
The proof is in the pudding. He's on the non exclusive tag and there hasn't been an offer. I'd bet money it's because of his contract demands.
If you can get a qb as good as lamar for 2 firsts you don't hesitate to do that trade.
I'm a ravens fan and I wouldn't be terribly happy with only 2 firsts.
That's my take especially when you consider the anticipated cap increase, it's best for teams that are willing to pay a top veteran QB to do it now with the current numbers because they will be a bargain within 2 seasons. The issue is the draft picks and for some the escrow when it comes to guaranteed money, some owners don't actually have the cash.
You think it's the 2 first round picks. I think that's a small price to pay for a qb as good as lamar and think the issue is the contract. Don't think we'll agree.
Of course you hesitate. The combination of picks and high cap hit means that your cap management is going to be extremely difficult. Unless you are a team that happens to have a roster filled with high level players on rookie contracts that is ready to compete today, you don't trade 2 first round picks and allocate +20% of your cap.
Yeah, you need the picks if you take on the contract, that's the problem with the whole thing. I indeed think there are *teams* who are perfectly willing to pay what he's after, but not in addition to losing those picks when he can likely be acquired for the same amount (more or less) WITHOUT losing the picks next offseason.
If that is now the case, which is still not as clear as the side by side comparison because it doesn't show annual salary or bonuses or overall payment structure, trade clause, buyout clauses, etc. Lamar just did what i said...he walked away first time and will do so probably again in totality. And because he's not working with a certified NFL agent, he's not getting that insight about deals and the details.
This deal didn't help him and he's 1 year older than Hurts.
It's really not that difficult to suit your offense to him; the Ravens did it in one season when they went from Flacco to Lamar and he had his MVP season. It helps if you center it completely around him, but let's not act like there's only very few teams in the league who could manage that.
I'm also quite bewildered why it would be crazy that Lamar will get paid to the level of Watson and Hurts. He is unequivocally a better player than Watson and has also put together a better season than Hurts ever did, with less weapons at his disposal. The Ravens were (off the top of my head) something like 9-3 when he got injured this season. It's not like he suddenly won't be able to run anymore just because he's older than 25...
ESPECIALLY with the state of QB play in the league, getting an elite option is simply key to any Super Bowl aspirations a team might have. Why not take the chance at a few runs at a ring during a 5-year window, rather than trying over and over again to build your team through the draft, while we know that the bust % of QBs is high and there's only so much franchise QBs going around. ESPECIALLY since there are teams who have been stuck in the middle for years on years and have shown no signs that they have the slightest clue on how to fix their problems. Lamar immediately would solve a lot of them.
It's a medium risk, high reward thing. And at the very least it shows that your franchise is interested in actually competing.
There is always a gm who is willing to put his gm career on the line for a QB and it doesn't even have to be Lamar...just look at the team who will draft Richardson out of FL. But in Lamar's case, as you mentioned, the valuable draft picks, plus the salary and guarantees to Lamar, over 5 or 6 years and without first round picks back to back years knowing your cap hit is massive to a QB your team probably isn't currently suited to which changes your draft strategy and free agent strategy...it's a massive gamble and one I wouldn't make. Just wait until he's a free agent and pay him if you dare.
In other (great) news:
No way his body double is good enough to play safety in the NFL.
The replies are, to the surprise of nobody, absolutely disgusting.
Just think Lamar values himself so highly and Baltimore doesn't have the track record of paying QBs at this new level.
And their team is predicated on defense, special teams, and running the ball. However, they need to allocate more money or draft development to wideouts. It's a bad unit
The risk seems to be okay, but just something Baltimore isn't used to. Do they think Lamar can get them over the hump and back to the championship game when it's Mahomes, Burrow, Allen in the AFC? Their team needs to get better overall even with Lamar.
That's sad...do the comments involve the vaccine or what? Such a freak accident and his body was always going to recover as is the wild recovery powers of the human body.
I'd say about 75% at a minimum were about the vaccine.
Quentin Johnston is coincidentally our pick in Schrager's latest mock draft. I imagine he'll be harder to get now he's been participating in Mahomes's OTAs in Texas.
I don't like him. The whole WR class bar JSN and perhaps Flowers looks weak as feck at this point. Certainly a strong difference with the classes of last year and 2021.
I don’t think they trade him unless there’s an offer that’s too good to decline.
Shane Haff sounds like an utter bellend. They hardly "whined incessantly", the only "whining" I saw was some speculation after the game that they may request a rule change to allow a 3rd QB to suit up in playoff games, to avoid the spectacle of a team basically being dead in the water so early in a game after QB3 had a serious injury and QB4 ended up with an injury too. The key piece of information is that they have fielded calls, not that they actively looking to trade him, every team takes the calls no matter who the player.
Exactly this, very poor tweet.
For those wanting to catch up with the draft (ONLY A WEEK AWAY
), Lance Zuerlein was on with the Establish The Run guys earlier this week. An excellent hour of in-depth talk about a lot of prospects, how teams assess and evaluate, potential smokescreens, and other gimmicks for what's in store next week. Was a great listen imo.Exactly this, very poor tweet.
For those wanting to catch up with the draft (ONLY A WEEK AWAY
I'll take a look at that, I am a complete draft addict and read pretty much every mock I come across
Same. Its always interesting to see all the ways that the Raiders can feck it up againI'll take a look at that, I am a complete draft addict and read pretty much every mock I come across
Darius Slay got his wish to be coached by Matty P again 
Ouch, that's horrible for the lions! Didn't they learn anything from Calvin Ridley?
It’s ridiculous - 2 have been released immediately. Jameson Williams off to a flyer in his career.
Absolute fecking buffoons...
@altodevil thank feck I don’t let you convince me into dodgy ass trades
The sport he bet on wasn’t a problem it was where he put the bet on - team facility, team travel or team hotel.
That’s absolute bullshit.
That’s absolute bullshit.
So it's fine for the Dolphins owner to tell Flores to throw games but it's a 1 year suspension for a player who legally places a bet on another sport. Errrr okay?