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Not a foregone conclusion that the game will be in Buffalo if they meet in the playoffs.
If you're a Chiefs fan, I wouldn't be disheartened. This will sound hot-takeish but it I was a Buffalo fan, I'd be worried. They have continuity in their personnel from last year (although there are obviousl injuries in the secondary ATM) and they added top guys like Miller to become even better.
The Chiefs on the other hand seem to have a completely new team full of questionable WRs and rookie defenders and they were still up 3 late with the ball and a chance to close it out. IMO, that is bad news for Buffalo because Mahomes's rapport with his receivers will likely improve and the defense will probably get better as well. There's a lot of season to go.
A guy like Dalton or someone of that ilk is definitely very valuable if you have QB issues.
If I were a Chiefs fan I would be wanting to avoid the Bills at all costs, as will the rest of the NFL.
They've now over the span of 12 months - defeated the Chiefs in KC by 18 (with Tyreek Hill), narrowly lost an OT game in KC (which most think they should've won) and now yet again beaten the Chiefs in KC this year. It would be fair to say the Bills would have an advantage if they played in Buffalo. They are simply executing better on both sides of the ball and the Chiefs don't have anyone remotely as effective as Hill was for them on their roster at the moment. They are still AFC championships game material because of Mahomes, but there's no way they would be favored over the Bills in Buffalo, in the snow, and with Allen wanting revenge for last year's playoff game.
People said it was early season form but Bills are easily the best team in football just from the eye test alone. Their results and the stat above really just cements it.
I'm not disheartened, just a bit annoyed that yet again we can't close out a game we are winning because of poor decision making from the coaching staff. It's weird but I think we are more likely to win being 10 points down in the 4th quarter than we are if we are up by 3. I just hope Andy Reid goes away and learns from his 2 losses this year - they're both down to bad play calls and clock management late on in the games. You've got the best QB along with the worst RBs in the NFL, trust Mahomes to close out a game for once.
I agree with most of your points though and I'm quite positive. I do feel we are only going to get better and the Bills we faced yesterday are probably more stacked than what they will be come the post season considering they have so few injuries. The main area of concern for me lies with our O line and how bad Orlando Brown Jr has been this year. Fingers crossed he manages to regain his form because Mahomes is getting pressured way more often than previous seasons with this O line and it's normally through Orlando.
What's amazing is they've only conceded 81 points in 6 games - a stretch that included the Rams, Dolphins, Ravens, and Chiefs. They've already scored nearly 100 points more than they've given up. The next closest team to them are the Eagles who are +55.
The next 3 games will be key for the Bills. - Packers (who will want to end their 2 game slide), the resurgent Jets, followed by the resurgent Vikings.
What happened over the span of 12 months doesn't really matter. Why not go back to the entirety of Allen v Mahomes in which Mahomes leads 3-2 with both of the playoff wins? Because it's not relevant.
For me, the only relevant games are the last playoff game and this one. And from those two, by my reading, KC have nothing to fear from Buffalo . They can clearly go toe to toe with them, with or without Hill. And as i said before, KC have a lot of new pieces that they are working into the team, some of whom are very imexperieced. They will likely be a much more potent outfit come Dec/Jan.
You're right about Buffalo's superior execution at present but where you are short sighted is in assuming that it will be the same in January. Executing well in October means little. The team that will win it all is the team that is hot at the right time.
I hear you. From what I've seen, neither of the tackles have played well. You have IMO the best coach and the best QB in the league so you're always going to be competitive, but I agree that Reid is often terrible situationally and with clock management.
It's crazy how someone so brilliant can be so dumb in certain aspects. You referenced him letting 40 seconds drain off the clock at the end of the game last night and I too don't get why he didn't call a TO. Then with less time, Mahomes is trying to push and of course ends up being picked.
So on one hand you are assuming that the Chiefs' rookies / new players will magically be "much more potent" come the playoffs, on the other hand you're saying that there are no guarantees about the Bills in the playoffs just because they are playing well right now.
Something doesn't add up here.
Setting aside the easy of lazily digging at the Broncos, the defence has been brilliant whilst also missing some key players. I don’t know what would be required to move ahead in DVOA (he says a “very good” game?) but it’s certainly not impossible.
Obviously it's a bit of a light hearted dig but it's also based on the calibre of opposition you are coming up against. Chargers are averaging 25 points a game and probably have the best offense you've come up against this season. They gave us the toughest game we've had this year, including our 2 losses to the Bills and Colts (lol).
This was supposed to be a rebuild year for the Chiefs. Some predicted that they wouldn't even make the playoffs as a result. Yet they're probably going to win their division again.
It's not a rebuild year for the Bills. Therefore the Chiefs have more scope for improvement (it takes time to gel with new teammates) and if you're a fan of them you've got to like where they're at. I don't think they fear the Bills and they are definitely capable of beating them come playoff time, even in NY state. But as I said, the game might be in Arrowhead if they meet again. Still 11 reg season games left.
Balls to that. They didn't lose any significant players during the offseason apart from Hill. They brought in veterans like JuJu, MVS, Dunlap, Ingram, ... You don't do that if you don't think about seriously competing the next season.
You are right that of course they shouldn't be afraid of the Bills and could easily beat them in a playoff rematch, but the same goes for the Bills. Both teams can be confident of their own quality if they meet again.
Chiefs in a rebuild 
Matthieu and Ward were not insignificant losses to that team. They also didn't bring in Ingram, they lost him.
Well that didn't take long
Oh yeah, mixed that up re: Ingram. Fair enough about the other two, but I won't agree that this can be considered anywhere close to a "rebuild year" for the Chiefs.
Well that didn't take long
Might have something to do with it. Hopkins-Moore-Anderson going forward now.
Well that didn't take long
Cute that the Cardinals still consider themselves a competitive enough team to make this type of trade.
First paragraph is just wrong. They also traded Mathieu who was the main leader of their D (an all time great player) and cut another of their defensive leaders in Hitchens. They also moved on numerous vets like Pringle, Sorensen, Niemann etc etc and then drafted a bunch of kids in addition to the agency moves that you outlined. If you think that amount of upheaval is straightforward to navigate then I guess we just have different views on it. I personally think they are doing well so far to incorporate all the new moving parts.
The second paragraph I obviously agree with.
Well that didn't take long
With Hollywood Brown injured, AJ Green finished, Antoine Wesley injured, Kirk gone, Isabella gone - the WR depth is basically Hopkins, Moore, fecking Greg Dortch, and practice squad dudes. They just need somebody to throw the ball to.
"Undisclosed draft capital" means they've doubtlessly given away way too much though.
Yes, I forgot about Ward. They could also do with Ingram now because the pass rush is still not great.
KC were third favourites for the Super Bowl before the season started.
Just because our rebuild means another potential superbowl doesn't make the point any less valid. Put yourselves in the shoes of a Chiefs fan for once.
It's not just a rebuild, it's a Chiefs rebuild.
It's not just a rebuild, it's a Chiefs rebuild.
with the meltdown play by play posting you go through as a “suffering” Chiefs fan I’d hate for you to have to cope as a Broncos fan for the last 7 years!I don't think its a rebuild - its simply the mundane comings and goings of players during the off season that all NFL teams go through.
A rebuild would be what the likes of the Browns, Bengals, Jets, and Jags have gone through in the past few years.
I'm weirdly a far calmer supporter when my team is completely shit and I just laugh at how bad it is. Do that pretty much every season for Wimbledon and the couple of seasons where Chelsea were dogshit.
I'll give you Mathieu, forgot about him, but the others don't do much for me. Every NFL team goes through changes during the offseason, and it's not like they didn't bring in anyone either.
Just completely disagree that it's a rebuild year because Hill is gone and they're having to play a few rookies - that's all. They can still hang with any team in the league.
I think rebuild is a bit too strong of a word (I was trolling just so I could get that sentence in) but we have had to dramatically change how we work our offense. We don't have the deep ball play anymore and that was crucial to our successes over the last couple of years. We went from essentially having 1 shithot receiver and not much depth to 4 average receivers this summer. What it's meant is that our O line has become far more important this year because it takes about twice as many plays to get up the field and they have to turn up more as we slowly progress towards the endzone. It might not be so much of a personnel rebuild but its a huge change in the way we play offensively from previous seasons.
So?
So nobody thought they had anything to overcome.
PS I was okay with Matthieu leaving - he was quite average in his final season and I think he mentally checked out after losing the Superbowl to the Bucs. Justin Reid has been a good replacement.
Semantics. Just because you have your coach and QB, doesn't mean it's not a rebuild. Or a 'reload' if you prefer.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fo...-rebuilding-reloading-or-somewhere-in-between
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