Goodell is hiding them away but hopefully Congress can get to them. I live for the glorious day when a scandal large enough finally forces Danny boy to sell the team. Maybe if we are lucky there will be stuff about the Glazers in there too, the Grudens and Bruce Allen worked in Tampa before Jay and Bruce came to Washington.
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Goodell is hiding them away but hopefully Congress can get to them. I live for the glorious day when a scandal large enough finally forces Danny boy to sell the team. Maybe if we are lucky there will be stuff about the Glazers in there too, the Grudens and Bruce Allen worked in Tampa before Jay and Bruce came to Washington.
Yeah, he's done...
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FFS.
I definitely believe all the Dolphins and Ross stuff because Flores’ sacking didn’t make much if any sense based on on-field performances. Good for him standing up for his values against the owner.
However, not sure the Giants are at fault here. While I get the reasoning behind the Rooney rule, it clearly doesn’t make much of a difference looking at the amount of black HCs and coordinators in the league. It really sucks for Flores that he already knew he was just there to make up the numbers and the Giants could’ve done this differently from a timing perspective, but if they were sold on Daboll yet still had to comply with the rule, what were they supposed to do? The league needs to look into this how it could be handled better, but I’m not sure there’s a good solution to this which you can actually enforce.
Fair fecks to Flores though, risking his own career for the greater good.
FFS.I definitely believe all the Dolphins and Ross stuff because Flores’ sacking didn’t make much if any sense based on on-field performances. Good for him standing up for his values against the owner.
However, not sure the Giants are at fault here. While I get the reasoning behind the Rooney rule, it clearly doesn’t make much of a difference looking at the amount of black HCs and coordinators in the league. It really sucks for Flores that he already knew he was just there to make up the numbers and the Giants could’ve done this differently from a timing perspective, but if they were sold on Daboll yet still had to comply with the rule, what were they supposed to do? The league needs to look into this how it could be handled better, but I’m not sure there’s a good solution to this which you can actually enforce.
Fair fecks to Flores though, risking his own career for the greater good.
Just read that the other 29 teams are included in the suit as John Doe teams 1-29 and it has been structured as a class action suit which suggests he expects or at least hopes that other black coaches will join him with their own specific allegations.
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I definitely believe all the Dolphins and Ross stuff because Flores’ sacking didn’t make much if any sense based on on-field performances. Good for him standing up for his values against the owner.
However, not sure the Giants are at fault here. While I get the reasoning behind the Rooney rule, it clearly doesn’t make much of a difference looking at the amount of black HCs and coordinators in the league. It really sucks for Flores that he already knew he was just there to make up the numbers and the Giants could’ve done this differently from a timing perspective, but if they were sold on Daboll yet still had to comply with the rule, what were they supposed to do? The league needs to look into this how it could be handled better, but I’m not sure there’s a good solution to this which you can actually enforce.
Fair fecks to Flores though, risking his own career for the greater good.
I agree it’s a rule which doesn’t work. Not sure that absolves the Giants, but I can’t refute the logic.
Not Raoul, but definitely not. From what I have seen, his personality would work really well at the college level as well. It’s also just a different environment to the NFL.
If the big openings didn’t need to move immediately to get their new coaches in place back in December (for recruiting), he could’ve been in that conversation.
The way the rule is written specifically covers this situation and makes clear that token interviews just to comply with the rule are a clear breach and subject to huge penalties. Of course in reality token interviews is what happens and that is why he is bringing the suit when in a league with a 70% black workforce only 1 of 32 coaches is black it is blindingly obvious that the teams are racist in their hiring practices, just difficult to prove to a legal standard and potentially suicidal to try.
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I definitely believe all the Dolphins and Ross stuff because Flores’ sacking didn’t make much if any sense based on on-field performances. Good for him standing up for his values against the owner.
However, not sure the Giants are at fault here. While I get the reasoning behind the Rooney rule, it clearly doesn’t make much of a difference looking at the amount of black HCs and coordinators in the league. It really sucks for Flores that he already knew he was just there to make up the numbers and the Giants could’ve done this differently from a timing perspective, but if they were sold on Daboll yet still had to comply with the rule, what were they supposed to do? The league needs to look into this how it could be handled better, but I’m not sure there’s a good solution to this which you can actually enforce.
Fair fecks to Flores though, risking his own career for the greater good.
Also if I'm not mistaken the Giants inteviewed their DC Pat Graham in their last round. Graham is also interviewing for the Vikings and there are rumors that he could be offered the DC job if he doesn't get the HC job, it will be interesting to see how it goes.
That's what I thought/hoped. At least he will be able to make a lot of money and do what he loves.
Haven’t checked but I thought you needed two interviews with external candidates? First one was Leslie Frazer. But yeah, they also did Graham indeed.
Yeah agreed. Token interviews will always happen as a result of how the rule works, it’s just that it’s hard to prove. Not sure even those texts by BB would be sufficient if the Giants can prove he was only alluding to “rumours” (which would 99% be bullshit but still).
Flores is well respected, so I would expect another NFL team to have a go at some point, at least one of the teams not owned by a Jerry Jones/Ross type owner.
There's also some chatter that Flores may entertain the Miami Hurricanes DC job since he's already based there and the U are currently getting major booster money from John Ruiz.
I like the take that BB is metagaming against the Giants in order to exact revenge by pulling that stunt.
Just in time for the Super Bowl!!!!
If he has sufficient evidence, which he just might have, he'll be given a huge settlement.
NFL, their media partners, and government will do everything in their power to keep this quiet and let it blowover.
If he has sufficient evidence, which he just might have, he'll be given a huge settlement.
NFL, their media partners, and government will do everything in their power to keep this quiet and let it blowover.
"What's Beef" - Bill Belichick
They'll do a Kaepernick to avoid discovery in court.
Sacrificing himself for the greater cause. I had hoped the Saints would interview him and potentially hire him. Now I just want him to secure the bag.
Pretty much, yeah. Players dying from CTE, abusive players, owners doing shady things (Kraft in FL), getting sued by cities (St. Louis)....you don't near much about them and they are surface level, until they are silenced.
They’ve decided they’re without merit rather quickly haven’t they?
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such a contradictory statement it’s baffling. Yeah we care about these things, but nah.I'd like to think that even after this concluded (and the bag was secured), a Belichick would bring him back on as an assistant.
I'd love nothing more than for our dirty laundry to get aired out in court.
Found this article for US team sports. Brady is probably tops if revised to current date although Koufax may have an argument. Surprised Barry Sanders was not on the list and do wonder what Staubach would do in today's passing era, probably at least another thousand yards passing.
Anyone else worthy of that list the past couple years?
https://247wallst.com/special-repor...-their-best-games-at-the-end-of-their-careers
I'd take Flores at Texas without hesitation over that drunk dickweed Sark.
Again, I don't get it. He has the freedom of Ann Arbor now.
Also, I don't recall too many coaches jumping back and forth between the NFL and College.
Texas play Bama opening game I believe... He won't last 2 weeks
I am not so sure anything still actually come out of it. Concrete and specific stuff I mean. It will end in the same way Kapernick stuff ended. Which may still be hugely significant in the long term. Tbf change doesn't happen overnight, takes many Kapernicks and Flores' before reality changes.
not his best season ever, but Posey this year retired after one of his best seasons. With the likely arrival of the DH in the NL next year he could have played for years more.
When you think about the nature of the scandals they’ve been embroiled in, it really is a dumb fecking name.
Confirmed. Think I liked Presidents better, not sure which other names were still in the running.
Bit boring in my opinion, and as was pointed out earlier it doesn't have a good shortened version like the Pats, Bucs, 9'ers, etc. I suppose that goes for a lot of team though.
Should have stuck with Football Team. It was really growing on me, and it is certainly the most precise.
Some interesting comments here, looks like Elway and the Broncos are as much at fault as the Giants are even though it would likely be harder/impossible to prove. Also the fact that they think they can get to 40 black coaches who want to join forces is quite the number.
This looks like it will get messy.
If they adopt our norm of footballer names (Giggsy, Scholesy, etc) they could be the "commies"?
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