Neymar | Linked with PSG | Renewed With Barca (Shock)

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totaalvoetbal said:
They need to get a vice Veratti or a MF that can bring the ball into the final third so Pogba would be great. I heard that his family don't want him to go to Paris because they feel it would have a negative influence on him as most of his entourage are in Paris. He would lose focus essentially.
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When you see what happens to Benzema or Aurier it seems wise to keep the nasty entourage away.

I don't believe in Pogba to PSG this season anyway. Too expensive and not our most pressing need if he even wanted to come.
 
As good as he is, Barcelona will be able to cope quite well without him if he ever leaves. As a person, you can't refuse those sums. It's easy to say that he shouldn't do it for footballing reasons when we're sat at a desk and reading the stories, but if a company approached me offering such terms, I'm going.
 
Still think it's a tactic to get the maximum deal possible from Barsa. What's he going to do in the French league? You simply cannot compare PSG with the history, passion and footballing resources of Barcelona.
 
Sunny Jim said:
Yes, but marginal utitlity drops with every addtional pound you earn.
Second, they are professional sportsmen they should be focusing on trophies not monies. Staying at Barca gives him a great chance to win meaningful titles
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You should read this in 2012. Neymar is very spend thrift.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/anderso...e-paving-the-road-to-bankruptcy/#4d1fafc36ca2

Sports is a business and the money usually correlates to your value. It's a balance. Depending on his ambition, he might not want to remain #2 for Messi.
 
This guy is pretty much the most valuable player in the world now from a buying club's perspective. He's got close to 10 years left at the top level, only behind Ronaldo and Messi marketing wise(and that will probably change if he moves to a club where he's the main man) and he's the natural successor of Messi and Ronaldo for the Ballon D'Or.

I have no doubt that Woodward would instantly pay his release clause if he wanted to move to United, same as another 3-4 clubs.

Silverman said:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/f...vealed-as-barcelona-stars-contract-is-leaked/
This is where I saw it. Sun aren't reliable so could be bull. Its pounds too not euros.
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I think he got a lot of money up front in the shady deal when they signed him, so that they won't pay much taxes. Barca style.
 
The player and club agreed on a new contract. This is just Mundo trying to sell copies. I mean they had this amazing scoop the other day:

 
Obviously he isn't going to PSG. He's the next multiple Balon Dor winner. He needs to play in the best league (currently La Liga).
 
Barcelona frightened of losing Neymar to PSG

According to Gianluca Di Marzio, Brazilian forward Neymar could leave Barcelona for PSG after Les Parisiens made an enormous salary offer to the player which has left FCB feeling very worried.

PSG are ready and willing to pay the €220m release clause in the player’s contract and have offered him an enormous provisional salary deal.

Barcelona have sent their top negotiator, Sanllehi, to Brazil, who has been in the country since Friday and will spend the whole week there in a bid to convince Neymar’s agents about signing a contract extension.

Barcelona are really struggling to deal with the situation at present.

June 20th, 2016
 
Sunny Jim said:
Yes, but marginal utitlity drops with every addtional pound you earn.
Second, they are professional sportsmen they should be focusing on trophies not monies. Staying at Barca gives him a great chance to win meaningful titles
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Conversely, they are engaged in a career that could end at any moment through injury and, even injury free, is short term at best. They will be more inclined to maximize their earnings in order to secure their future. Trophies don't pay the rent. Look at what Pele's honours brought him at auction, something like £5 million. That's about a third of what Neymar could earn in a season with PSG.
 
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PSG willing to pay 220m for a player 2yr left in contract? Either they are idiots or have too much of oil money - most likely both. PSG can't do anything more with Neymar, they already have enough to win the league. We can defnitely do a lot with 220m.
 
@CLARiiON

Here a very old French ad for a car (Clio by Renault)



I have to translate:

- The father says " The Kingdom, Oil, Glory, Honours, Responsibilities... everything is yours"
- The son " Yes, my father"
- The father "Oh wait. A detail
- The son "Yes, my father"
- The father "You will have to renounce to your Clio"
- The son " Renounce? But Father... it doesn't make sense. Look at this car. The French are right to say ELLE A TOUT D'UNE GRANDE (ie small car but with the attribites of a big car).
- The father " Not enough expensive my son"
- The son "My father!"
 
It's nice to see players, in this case Neymar using PSG as leverage for his new Barca deal instead of us for once. Refreshing.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Platini effectively ended it. Nothing to with PSG's Qatar owners putting so much money into France and French football or that Platini's son earns a six figure salary from the Qataris.

At least it is not us being used by Neymar's team for a pay rise this time anyway.
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He didn't, it was relaxed and clubs are given a bit more leeway on the amount of loses that can make, but FFP is still there, PSG can't start acting like City were from 2009-2012.
 
I wonder if PSG fans get annoyed their club is used for new contracts all the time.
 
Ixion said:
I wonder if PSG fans get annoyed their club is used for new contracts all the time.
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Part of the business I'd say but not an 'easy task' for a player to reject superior financial packages offered by PSG.
 
Can PSG afford to do this from an FFP perspective?
 
Well they've got pretty rich owners and in the past have tried some pretty dodgy sponsorship deals to fund the club (eg a 4 year deal with Qatar Tourism for £570m). Not sure what deals are legit and which have gotten thrown out but i'd say they'd be covered. The only question is league money would be nowhere near close to the PL so would be interesting to see what deals they do have
 
Just on Neymar, if he does go to PSG, for me he'll never be the footballer he could have been if he had stayed in a competitive league. For me it's a bit like Pele scoring 1000 goals. He wouldn't have scored that many if he had played in a more competitive European league - that part has always tainted his brilliant career for me. Neymar moving to a french league where PSG won by 31 points, scoring 102 and conceding 19 is just not testing himself and shows he's only in it for the money now. It's a bit like Aguero going to league 1 Wigan, scoring 75 goals and saying "look how good i am" (slight exageration)
 
VP89 said:
Can PSG afford to do this from an FFP perspective?
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I get the impression the FFP is dead or - if you prefer - has been loosened since last year.

2 years ago: PSG was capped (1 transfer superior to 50m) so had to choose between Luiz and Di Maria.
Last year: no cap and the UEFA was happy with the budget of PSG (LOOOL)
This year: nobody talks about the FFP
 
220M is highly tempting for me, specially for a player with 2 years left in contract. If he doesn't sign the extension soon, I will be inclined to make a monumental profit from his sale.
 
VP89 said:
Can PSG afford to do this from an FFP perspective?
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Our revenue is growing at a very high rate and will be at least €50m higher than last year, plus FFP sanctions have just ben lifted meaning we're now allowed a €30m deficit and losing Zlatan frees some wage money.

The €190m fee can be amortized over 4 or 5 years, so it should be borderline with FFP rules but possible, if necessary we can still sell a player or two.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Given that they are able to pay 220m for a single player. It is effectively over IMO.
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But it just isn't, Galatasaray have just been banned from Europe recently because FFP violations.

I doubt the figures being reported here are true but let's say they do buy him for €220m and pay him €50m a year. As I understand it, in their accounts the cost of the transfer gets spread over the length of the contract even if PSG's owners pay the €220m up front. Assuming it's a five year deal, that's €44m a season they'll be 'paying' for the next five seasons. His salary would also increase PSG's wage bill by €50m so his total cost would be €94m for the next five years. They're losing Ibra who I think earns €20m so PSG's wage bill rises by €30m instead of €50m.

FFP is there to stop teams making huge loses and PSG only made a profit of €10m in 14/15, €75m increase in costs would be totally impossible under FFP. Unless they increase their revenue substantially, sell players every year or stop buying players, they wouldn't be able to afford to pay him €50m a year on top of a €220m fee.
 
Nanook said:
But it just isn't, Galatasaray have just been banned from Europe recently because FFP violations.

I doubt the figures being reported here are true but let's say they do buy him for €220m and pay him €50m a year. As I understand it, in their accounts the cost of the transfer gets spread over the length of the contract even if PSG's owners pay the €220m up front. Assuming it's a five year deal, that's €44m a season they'll be 'paying' for the next five seasons. His salary would also increase PSG's wage bill by €50m so his total cost would be €94m for the next five years. They're losing Ibra who I think earns €20m so PSG's wage bill rises by €30m instead of €50m.

FFP is there to stop teams making huge loses and PSG only made a profit of €10m in 14/15, €75m increase in costs would be totally impossible under FFP. Unless they increase their revenue substantially, sell players every year or stop buying players, they wouldn't be able to afford it.
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Your last sentence is key. They will find a way to increase their revenue substantially without selling players. Dodgy sponsorship is how they'll do it I expect. Selling Paris to the middle East etc.
 
We need an rvn said:
Just on Neymar, if he does go to PSG, for me he'll never be the footballer he could have been if he had stayed in a competitive league. For me it's a bit like Pele scoring 1000 goals. He wouldn't have scored that many if he had played in a more competitive European league - that part has always tainted his brilliant career for me. Neymar moving to a french league where PSG won by 31 points, scoring 102 and conceding 19 is just not testing himself and shows he's only in it for the money now. It's a bit like Aguero going to league 1 Wigan, scoring 75 goals and saying "look how good i am" (slight exageration)
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If he wins the UCL with PSG.....
 
djdhrubs said:
Your last sentence is key. They will find a way to increase their revenue substantially without selling players. Dodgy sponsorship is how they'll do it I expect. Selling Paris to the middle East etc.
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UEFA have already stopped some of PSG's dodgy sponsorship deals. There's also this

Under the updated regulations, any entity that, alone or in aggregate together with other entities which are linked to the same owner or government, represent more than 30% of the club's total revenues is automatically considered a related party.

http://www.uefa.com/community/news/newsid=2064391.html
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UEFA aren't going to ban some teams from playing in Europe while at the same time let PSG do whatever they want.
 
It's better if he goes to PSG than stay at Barca, go to Madrid or to another PL club.
 
Neymar ain't going anywhere. What we are seeing is contract renegotiation 101 and Im thankful he isn't using us this time to get his new contract....which he will get.
 
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