Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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I agree with Serghei, Barça gains nothing by delaying the inevitable. In fact it hinders them, as not having the €€€ delays their transfer plans.

This is Tebas being a cowboy by himself
 
Because if no one can afford that clause, it means that it's not fulfilling its mission which is to allow players to break their contract without cause while allowing their clubs to be fairly compensated. If the clause makes that impossible then we have a problem.
Right and what would be the implications of that? The contract itself is void? A new contract is drawn up?
 
What I mean is that in the last 6 seasons results are, overall, better than United's. Even if you don't see it, it's a trend already.
A lot of people - like me - are not talking about what is good for United, but what is the right thing (if there is such a thing). Not everyone needs to be a hypocrite.
 
It's not when you consider that top clubs make around 600m on revenue. Transfer to revenue, this is less than Zidane to Madrid. And that is the only thing that matters.

People who talk about banning of these types of transfers or luxury cap etc, I just don't get it? Why they prefer the money to go to rich businessman rather than the money staying in football?!
I keep seeing people mentioning revenue on here. Almost ignoring expenses.

I wonder how that fee compares to profit instead?

That's a far better indicator.
 
Exactly. I believe that every club on which is invested a lot of money, sooner or later can become self-sustainable, so my system would ensure that this happens. If some rich owner throws money to a club, but later changes his mind, my system would allow that club to continue being rich for another few years and in that way to have the needed time to either become self-sustainable (like Chelsea are now), or to get adjusted to the new reality, sell some players etc. It would totally ensure that even on worst case, the clubs won't go bankrupt or forced to sell their biggest assets.

I don't believe that money coming from wealthy owners to football is a bad thing in any aspect, and I was happy to see that FFP isn't hurting the likes of City and PSG.

Ok. Fair from you to state this clearly. I find the motive wrong and unjustifiable from a competition pow and see no reason for the UEFA/FIFA to do something about that as the clubs could easily handle it with some competence on their board (like Chelsea). It's an interesting approach though.
 
Barca has allowed Neymar to go and work on his deal with PSG. Valverde has allowed him to skip training and perfect the transfer. You guys have no idea what you're talking about to be honest. Whatever pressure Barca put in this saga was on Neymar to make up his mind if he is going or if he is leaving, that's all. As soon as Neymar spoke in front of the teammates that he wants to go to PSG, Barca has no problem in letting him go in exchange for the full 222m. being paid. Whatever LFP did has nothing to do with Barcelona.

Barca has no intent to keep a player who doesn't want to stay. I'm frankly surprised a lot of intelligent people around here fail to grasp this simple idea.
Then why don't they just accept the deal and cut La Liga out of it ?
 
You know the bias against Barca and Madrid has spun out of control when you have fans of United being happy about a dangerous situation for their own club, just because right now it is more damaging to Barcelona. :lol:

You have City being the better team in Manchester for the most part of the last decade FFS, through unfair sponsorships. And you side with oil clubs like PSG in situations regarding obvious violations of financial fair play?
You're blind to the irony, not to mention the sheer hypocrisy of Barca/La Liga suddenly worrying about this when they come in for one of your assets? And that after being mum on the issue for over decade while the sugar daddies have been wreaking havoc in England and France, because they weren't directly affected by it? To frame it as an ideological stance is utterly ridiculous at this point, and that is why people are laughing at you. Not because they are cheering for Arab Oil Money™.

Of course, I'm sure you realise this, but I reckon you're too embarrassed by your own club to admit to it.
 
Right and what would be the implications of that? The contract itself is void? A new contract is drawn up?

In this case no, a judge would reevaluate the value of the clause and ask PSG to pay it, that's what happened with Zubiaurre. Initially, if the LFP are genuine, the contract should have been rejected by the LFP and they should have asked for a more realistic clause, if they actually believe that this one isn't.
 
Then why don't they just accept the deal and cut La Liga out of it ?

Because all parties involved were expecting to resolve the contract through the release clause? Barça isn't just ready to resolve a contract like this in some hours time.
 
The old training ground was in el Paseo de la Castellana,the financial part of Madrid,wasn't land without so much value,in the middle of nowhere as @SammyUnited_83 wrote before.
Anyway,It seems that this is "Madrid and Barsa did It before so everything is justifiable".
Now It's Barsa but tomorrow can be some Madrid player with a "low" clause before renewal,or in English teams players refusing to renew or demanding transfer requests.
And since United have the enemy in front of the door their position should be also critical with all this.
You see that every sponsor is valuable,even tinder. Big clubs,with history but without magical sponsors to balance the accounts

How about LFP arbitrarily siding with Real Madrid regarding Di Stefano's registration - you got what, 5 Champions Leagues out of that?
 
If Qatar pay Neymar and Neymar buys himself out of his contract then signs for PSG, is that not technically a free transfer?
 
You're blind to the irony, not to mention the sheer hypocrisy of Barca/La Liga suddenly worrying about this when they come in for one of your assets? And that after being mum on the issue for over decade while the sugar daddies have been wreaking havoc in England and France, because they weren't directly affected by it? To frame it as an ideological stance is utterly ridiculous at this point, and that is why people are laughing at you. Not because they are cheering for Arab Oil Money™.

Of course, I'm sure you realise this, but I reckon you're too embarrassed by your own club to admit to it.

Sugar daddy clubs have kept it civilized before this deal. It's this deal that is actually a spit on the face of regular clubs, that make money from football and reinvest that money to keep up their position, their fan base, their popularity etc. Football has had the 100m. mark for a single player signing respected for 20 years. Now an oil club comes and pays 222m. for Neymar. You think something like this has happened before? I beg to differ.

It would be hypocritical from a Barca fan if a similar type of deal like this one would have happened before. But it didn't. What PSG is doing here is actually using Qatar money to fund a 500m+ transfer (release clause, bonuses from Neymar, taxes and wages). It's as if the City of Barcelona instead of investing around 1 bn. to build a hospital, signs a 800m. deal with Barca for Messi & Co. to promote the city. The Barca then take the money, brag about having over 1bn revenue, and breaks the market in two.
 
It's going to be interesting, who Barca will end of with. I m pretty sure that Dortmund wont sell Dembele and are not interested in opening negotiations. If Barca think they can go there and take him for lets say 100m€, then they are close to experience another rude awakening. Maybe 150m€+ could change that, but I m not sure if even that would be enough. Dortmund dont wanna sell and Dembele has contract until 2021. I just cannot see any situation Dortmung being open to negotiate. Perfect situation to make another Dembele will stay bet.

Coutinho doesnt look gettable too..this could be fun.
 
If Qatar pay Neymar and Neymar buys himself out of his contract then signs for PSG, is that not technically a free transfer?

Would that payment not be income for Neymar personally, and so attract the highest rate of tax in Spain, whatever that is? Would seriously increase the cost to Qatar if so.
 
If Qatar pay Neymar and Neymar buys himself out of his contract then signs for PSG, is that not technically a free transfer?

Yes, but that is quite clearly bending the rules. Even with the reputation of FIFA and UEFA being completely spineless and corrupt, I just don't see a way that would be allowed.
 
They're just pissed somebody's paying the buyout clause and the league is losing a superstar because of it. Madrid and Barca think they run football. So I'm happy to see them get done over like this.

Let him go in my opinion.
 
Translation? Is it saying if Barca say OK the league will allow the payment?

Yes. Tebas,the president of La Liga, said that on RAC1 a radio based in Barcelona.

He also said Neymar has other options regarding the release clause: direct payment or notary
 
Seems like the buyout has been paid and Neymar is a PSG player (SPORT.es).
 
Only very few players I think Barca should think about for replacing Neymar;

Like many others have mentioned Dembele would be a good fit.

Hazard, Greizmann, Reus, Sanchez, Dybala would be my shortlist and I'd demand the board get one of them.

Dybala probably being my first choice, Reus last.
 
Only very few players I think Barca should think about for replacing Neymar;

Like many others have mentioned Dembele would be a good fit.

Hazard, Greizmann, Reus, Sanchez, Dybala would be my shortlist and I'd demand the board get one of them.

Dybala probably being my first choice, Reus last.
Reus definetely last. Injury record is absolutely shocking
 
I know some things about the human nature: I only see jealousy, hypocrisy and a desire for more protectionism :)

The mockery is to say you want to save Football because one club has paid the release clause of a footballer.

In other words, PSG is an issue because they are in position to sign players like Neymar.

I guess everybody would have been happy to see them acquiring instead the GK J-D Castro Pereira for 222 millions of euros.

Well obviously if you 'know some things about human nature' then you are clearly the fountain of all knowledge and I should surely question your wisdom no further.

However, let's say, for the sake of argument, that I still disagree with your assessment of this situation. I never said I want to save football, but it's quite clear that if one or two clubs have been handed lottery wins and are able to (completely undeservedly) pay crazy sums for players that nobody else can possibly pay because they are actual football clubs with profit margins and business plans, then those clubs will be able to simply hoover up the best talent for themselves, leaving whatever they don't fancy for everyone else. There's no limit to where this ends because if other clubs find a way to compete fairly, then the goalposts will move and the oil 'clubs' will simply pay £400m.....£500m...£1bn etc. It essentially makes a mockery of the game with teams who haven't earned their success.

A line needs to be drawn somewhere with these clubs before the game becomes a bad joke.
 
Their team sheet is in much better shape than ours, for one.
PSG doesn't hold a candle to United when it comes to history, global profile, and commercial possibilities. If he really wanted to put himself in the spotlight, then United would be a far superior destination. Even from a sporting perspective, if he could have been the player to return United to the pinnacle of the sport, it would elevate him as a ballon d'or candidate. At PSG, he'll be viewed as a mercenary who went to a sub-part league in his prime. I'm sorry, but the only reason he's leaving is for piles and piles of cash.
 
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/footbal...rcelona-communique-on-neymar-jr-buyout-clause

On Thursday afternoon Neymar Jr's legal representatives visited in person the Club's offices and made the payment of 222 million euros in the player's name with regards to the unilateral termination of the contract that united both parties.

As such, the Club will pass on to UEFA the details of the above operation so that they can determine the disciplinary responsibilities that may arise from this case.
 
If Barca put in a ridiculous bid, Klopp will be forced to accept it.
I doubt it. Even 80m weren't enough to get an inferior player in Keita, they are note selling Coutinho who is in a long contract this summer. I believe that Dortmund for Dembele will say them to feck off too. Maybe Juve for 150m might consider selling Dybala but that's it IMO.
 
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/footbal...rcelona-communique-on-neymar-jr-buyout-clause

On Thursday afternoon Neymar Jr's legal representatives visited in person the Club's offices and made the payment of 222 million euros in the player's name with regards to the unilateral termination of the contract that united both parties.

As such, the Club will pass on to UEFA the details of the above operation so that they can determine the disciplinary responsibilities that may arise from this case.

Have they roped in Shakespeare for this transfer? :lol:
 
Will UEFA be doing this for everyone? Next time Barca puts in a deal for say Coutinho, can Pool pass the info to UEFA and ask them to check Barca's books and all incoming and outgoing money and decide whether Barca could afford Coutinho in real or not. And then UEFA declares a verdict and Pool can appeal it and all.

Would take 6-7 months for every deal
 
You know the bias against Barca and Madrid has spun out of control when you have fans of United being happy about a dangerous situation for their own club, just because right now it is more damaging to Barcelona. :lol:

You have City being the better team in Manchester for the most part of the last decade FFS, through unfair sponsorships. And you side with oil clubs like PSG in situations regarding obvious violations of financial fair play?
Do you even check your facts before posting? Between 2007/8 and 2016/17 Man Utd have won 4 league titles to City's 2. We have won the UCL they have not.
If you had said the last 4 years you might of had a point about them being better but that is not down to the money they can spend but the fact that we lost a very influential manager and made a couple of bad choices with his replacement.
 
So what can we expect of these disciplinary responsibilities arising if that even make sense? Surely UEFA have no case as well
 
I can't really care who Neymar plays for if he's not playing for us or our direct rivals. But I do believe Barca are doing the right thing by forcing UEFA to have a look into it. One way or another UEFA will need to respond and that would set a precedence.
 
I can't really care who Neymar plays for if he's not playing for us or our direct rivals. But I do believe Barca are doing the right thing by forcing UEFA to have a look into it. One way or another UEFA will need to respond and that would set a precedence.

That is BS. As much as I'd like to hate oil clubs, PSG have not done 1 thing wrong and behaved with class.
 
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