Do you not think the TV deal is a huge reason why transfer fees have gone bonkers? Or is it just a coincidence?
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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In all the circus, I dont understand why Barca want to keep a pi**ed off Neymar in their books. Not to mention that Neymar can go to UEFA and complain that he can't live in Spain anymore because of the fans turning against him already. He sees a threat to his life and property and he wouldn't be too wrong.
Who said buying players isn't fair? I'd just prefer teams to be pushed a bit more to build success. And more importantly, some controls/restrictions need to be put in place to reign the sillyness in.
Mid market prices are being pushed up naturally because the upper market players like Neymar and Mbappe are being touted near 200m. Its therefore natural that the lesser valued players like Walker, B Silva, Mendy et al are getting pushed up to fill the void.
Just look at what Leipzig want for Keita, what Liverpool want for Coutinho, and what Dortmund are valuing Dembele for.
Did the TV rights double?
The TV deal is only specific to England. IT wouldn't explain why prices have soared across the world over the past year.
I think the whole system needs a major overhaul.
I dont know?
Bingo.
The idea that we "started" anything with the Pogba deal is nonsense. Ronaldo went for not much less back in 2007.
It's the average players going for what was previously top shelf money that's driven everything else up and that comes down to the TV money plain and simple.
I know some things about the human nature: I only see jealousy, hypocrisy and a desire for more protectionism
The mockery is to say you want to save Football because one club has paid the release clause of a footballer.
In other words, PSG is an issue because they are in position to sign players like Neymar.
I guess everybody would have been happy to see them acquiring instead the GK J-D Castro Pereira for 222 millions of euros.
I think it has a major part to play in it. The way we have been throwing around money over the last 3 seasons has also helped inflate the market.
Usually i think thats how it's supposed to work, but the one Suarez had with Liverpool obviously wasn't that straight forward.
I'm not sure if they are even enforceable in England like they are in Spain.
This Neymar transfer is going to make Madrid wish they had wrapped up the Mbappe deal weeks ago.
Mbappe's price is going to be pushed up now. It went from around £110m to some people now saying closer to £160m. Plus, Barca were not able to compete for his signature earlier this summer, now they have close to £200m burning a hole in their pocket. They can use that to push up the Mbappe price for Madrid.
Mbappe's price is going to be pushed up now. It went from around £110m to some people now saying closer to £160m. Plus, Barca were not able to compete for his signature earlier this summer, now they have close to £200m burning a hole in their pocket. They can use that to push up the Mbappe price for Madrid.
I'm not suggesting the exact makeup of what will happen, that will fall on the toes of better qualified and better paid people than me.
In the event that all sponsorship deals from state owned companies were prohibited from being renewed, do you really think that would negatively effect United or Liverpool?
Nonetheless, I specifically mentioned state owned clubs effectively sponsoring themselves. Much easier to prohibit and it would only affect a couple of prominent players.
Would love to see Neymar sue for breach of contract and walk away for free. If the wording on the release clause is clear cut and La Liga are not accepting the terms of the release, then it can be considered a breach of contract.
If I'm not mistaken it tripled from 3bn to 10bn.
Correct. And if Madrid or Barca wind up paying close to 200m on an 18 year old, guess where that will drag prices on the next emerging youngster we or one of our competitors are interested in. We are already hearing 100m for Dembele.
Can't they do what we did with Herrera? Give him all the money and so he can release him from his own contract and PSG sign him as a free agent?
Not normal, but how else do we compete in the sugardaddy market ?
Agree.
How can it be rejected? The contractual clause has been met
We already knew about this scenario in advance that's why we hired lots of scout to sign the talents even before anyone knows
. As PSG have lots of wide player in their team by going on a selling spree they can easily recoup 100m & if they sale 4-5 players they can afford Neymar wages also, if there's anything wrong in this transfer UEFA will look into it.Of course it could. For example if EPL clubs would pay over the top prices for players from others leagues the money would get distributed and in the end increase fees everywhere (imagine it along the lines of 'trickle-down'). It could also increase prices just because clubs from continental Europe need to step up their bids when competing with EPL clubs.
You are right though in the sense that it's not the only reason. The other reason is money injections from e.g. Qatar.
I still find it amazing that Neymar is willing to drop down such a huge level to play in the French league. I'm surprised and it says alot about the player. Is being even richer or the 'main man' much more important than playing at the highest level ? For him, it appears to be the case.
A 71% increase.
I honestly don't get a big deal, rich clubs buying the best players, spending the most money.
He is worth every penny, good luck to them - just wish we had owners as wealthy / ambitious.
He is worth every penny, good luck to them - just wish we had owners as wealthy / ambitious.
Barcelona and Neymar are two parties in the contract. As far as I can see, Barcelona for all their stupid behavior is not breaching anything. It's the third party, La Liga that is not allowing transfer to happen so any sue should be directed at them.
And he couldn't walk away for free, he could just ask to sanction the deal, maybe ask for some lost profit if he had any during this circus.
That's not what's happening though is it. Is Neymar a product of the English TV deal ? Was Higuin's transfer from Napoli to Juve part of the English TV deal ? How about Mbappe to Madrid ?
It's out of control. I guess one positive could be that clubs will now focus more on developing their own young stars and I'm pretty confident we can produce some of the best with our coaches and facilities.
The league might be a lower level, competitively.
But they are far more equipped to win the CL, certainly more than us, probably more than anyone in the PL.
PSG compete in the highest level of competition and almost put Barca out of the CL last year. True, Ligue 1 isn't as prestigious as La Liga, but it's not like he's joining MLS. He can compete for top honours at PSG including individual awards if they do well in Europe.
Even Madrid were not able to compete for his signature till they sold the likes of morata and Danilo for inflated prices which they were quoting to us.
Chelsea bailed them out.
Not a direct product, but it's easy to argue that it is an indirect product from the mechanism I explained in the first sentence. A very good example would be the Pogba transfer, that allowed Juve to spend big on Higuain.
Most probably it's a mix of different factors coming into play. One of them is the EPL TV deal. Another is sugar daddies. Yet another is the still growing popularity of the sport, thus increasing market power in sponsorship deals etc.
Haha,I like what la liga is doing. He will leave anyway but can be a bit later.
At least I'd like to know clearly what UEFA thinks and what they'll do about it.
At least I'd like to know clearly what UEFA thinks and what they'll do about it.
For starters Higuains transfer was funded by whom? Juventus got £90m from a English club. It's not like it miraculous came out their pocket. Napoli saw that and decided to raise the price.
Real Madrid just received £85m for two players that were sat on their bench from English clubs.
Madrid wouldn't have any problem signing Mbappe before Danilo/Morata. It just made little sense to them. We are talking about a 3bn. company, so they would have little issues getting a loan for 200 Mio. € over 2 years or something like that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31379128Which is it! A 200% increase or 71%
I normally go with the BBC when commenting on football matters.
The Premier League has sold television rights to its games for a record £5.136bn, 71% above last time.
Sky paid £4.2bn for five of the seven TV packages while rival BT paid £960m for the other two in the record TV rights auction. The deal will run for three years from 2016
Sky paid £4.2bn for five of the seven TV packages while rival BT paid £960m for the other two in the record TV rights auction. The deal will run for three years from 2016
Just make them all 123billion Euros and be done with
Really good point about the tax. And Qatar's tax-free status if he performs his duties there.
Deep in thought chin rubbing emoji - so, let;s see. Tax-free ambassadorial status for the sportsman signing for the very same people who happen to own the club he signs for … call Sherlock Holmes, we have to get to the bottom of this … and fast!
I read it first here: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/02/psg-200m-neymar-barcelona-financial-fair-play
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