Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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serghei said:
Nobody from Barca cares about Pep at City outside of his football vision. Actually, he just stole us a great La Masia talent, so he can just feck off as well. Do you think Barca fans support City as a club because Pep is there? :lol: Please...
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wait what... people actually think that Barca fans have a "second club" that they support because Pep is at City?? Yeah fecking right as if they are happy to support another club let alone one that is trying to rival them and competing against them in the CL group stages and even competing for the same players. Like I said before that would be turkeys voting for christmans.
 
Bepi said:
Cheers. To be fair, Marotta squandered 90m on Higuain to make the accounting books even and avoid paying 40% to 50% taxes on the big capital gain from Pogba's fee. Therefore, if Dybala goes for 110m euros, he will do the same with Cancelo, Keita Balde, de Vrij or Manolas and Milinkovic Savic. :)
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Not to mention he was 29 last year. Half of the calf would have labelled him a waste of money.
 
K2K said:
On here, most definitely.

The cult of Pep is very strong.
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Thats not reserved to Barca fans though. Bayern and Dortmund would bang on about him too, at least early last season.
 
Bepi said:
Cheers. To be fair, Marotta squandered 90m on Higuain to make the accounting books even and avoid paying 40% to 50% taxes on the big capital gain from Pogba's fee. Therefore, if Dybala goes for 110m euros, he will do the same with Cancelo, Keita Balde, de Vrij or Manolas and Milinkovic Savic. :)
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Given the context, Higuain was a 45 million deal :)

I have a great respect for their management: Pirlo, Pogba, Coman, Kapo (long time ago)... so many players for free.

They have acquired Thierry Henry and sold him 6 months later with a margin of 50%.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
So what's the issue here? If PSG breach FFP, they ll get fined and get transfer banned like Barca.
Does FFP dictate that a transfer should be stopped before it happens?
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The only issue is that UEFA will probably do nothing, and oil clubs will have a clear path to feck up the transfer market even more in the future. And this greatly affects all other big historical clubs, not only Barca.
 
Man City just spent 200 mill without batting any eyelids. Imagine PSG without other signings and moving out 60-80 mill in player sales. Not sure where FFP can find reason to indict them.
UEFA missed the opportunity with their shady marketing deals early on.
It's an insane deal for one player. Clubs like United can't afford to do it specially as all our spending including academy dictated from operating earnings whereas this may not be true for PSG or City. Would i be wrong in assuming this?
 
The Taurean said:
Man City just spent 200 mill without batting any eyelids. Imagine PSG without other signings and moving out 60-80 mill in player sales. Not sure where FFP can find reason to indict them.
UEFA missed the opportunity with their shady marketing deals early on.
It's an insane deal for one player. Clubs like United can't afford to do it specially as all our spending including academy dictated from operating earnings whereas this may not be true for PSG or City. Would i be wrong in assuming this?
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The deal between Neymar and PSG is reportedly worth a lot more than the transfer sum. The release clause is just the start. The investment in Neymar rumored to be over 500m. I've read from some credible sources that Neymar would get 100m. sign on bonus and his father 40m. sign on bonus.
 
I love that Barca is getting more and more desperate by every second. Barca has done it for years. David Villa, Jordi Alba, Suarez, Zlatan etc. were all tapped up by Barca. Let's not forget that Madrid has done the same thing with Ronaldo and will try the same with De Gea again. Barca should shut up and move on. They are getting a world record fee. If they are feeling bad, they should imagine what Santos felt back when Neymar signed for Barca. Barca's true face reveals itself when things do not go as favourable as they would like.

The elephant in the room in this case, is a state is supposedly buying the player. Qatar was the sponsor of Barca of course but this is different. From this point on, PSG or City can throw all the money they like for every player with a release clause. FFP is the reason why we probably will not be able to sign Perisic. It creates a giant loophole on a flawed and unjust system. FFP standards for giants of Europe is not the same for a team in Turkey. From now on, FFP for PSG or City will not be same for United. If Uefa is really serious about a fair system, they should be more careful designing rules from now on.

I can't stand Neymar either. He is just a wannabe. He wants to show everybody that he is a global icon and he wants to rub it in people's eyes. I became even more irritated by him after seeing his attitude during NBA Finals. Neymar might be right about being in Messi's shadow. I don't know because it is his life. I will say this though, I will never understand how and why a player like him want to leave a club like Barca for PSG. Sorry to offend PSG fans over here, but no matter how successful they've become, I just can't find City or PSG organic. This whole becoming global thing looks a couple of sizes big on them. If I were on Neymar's shoes I would much rather continue with Barcelona.

I hate every party in this saga. Hope they will all regret this.
 
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serghei said:
The deal between Neymar and PSG is reportedly worth a lot more than the transfer sum. The release clause is just the start. The investment in Neymar rumored to be over 500m. I've read from some credible sources that Neymar would get 100m. sign on bonus and his father 40m. sign on bonus.
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Not sure where you got that info. That's sounds too crazy to be true.

to be fair, few months ago 200 mill transfer fee would be considered outrageous to be true.
 
Jim Beam said:

:lol: If they agreed to that, they deserve to get bent.
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I found this great summary on the controversial Neymar deal, and all the headaches it has caused Barcelona up to this day: http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/the-never-ending-neymar-transfer-scandal/

They don't mention the 'side-deal-orgy-to-Neymar-Sr' rumours:lol: Probably because they are rumours, although, I will try to find one of the pictures that I saw from a barca forum, of Neymar Sr posing next to a male bimbo, as his/her lipstick is smeared on his lips:D
 
SocccerNomics said:
Nothing and it is the biggest flaw in the regulations that allow a player to buy himself out of their contract. The rules assumed that a players salary from his clubs would always dwarf other commercial income.

This Neymar deal opens up the possibility that brands own players (Nike, adidas, Emirates, Qatar Airways) and directing their careers for their benefit. 3rd party ownership by another means.
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Yes agreed. I work for a company that paid neymar a large amount completely legitimately to front our product.
Had we 'chosen' to pay a ridiculous amount I'm not sure anyone could have done anything about it......
 
The Taurean said:
Not sure where you got that info. That's sounds too crazy to be true.

to be fair, few months ago 200 mill transfer fee would be considered outrageous to be true.
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2017: between 220 and 300 (investment+salaries+bonus)
2018: between 30 and 50 (gross salaries+bonus) >>> 30 millions net for Neymar
2019: between 30 and 50 (gross salaries+bonus) >>> 30 millions net for Neymar
2020: between 30 and 50 (gross salaries+bonus) >>> 30 millions net for Neymar
2021: between 30 and 50 (gross salaries+bonus) >>> 30 millions net for Neymar
2022: between 30 and 50 (gross salaries+bonus) >>> 30 millions net for Neymar

500 millions over 5 years: possible global cost of the investment.
 
MannyB said:
Feck the Cesc thing. He wanted to come to United at one stage too. Its no surprise he ended up back at home

Go have a look at Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo and RvN. Their projects, missing pieces and seemingly everyone involved with the club talking about players in the media. Short memories in here...
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Feck the Cesc thing? I'm not claiming Real are squeaky clean, but they've never stooped as low as Barca did with Cesc.

Figo they paid the release clause, Zidane & Ronaldo were 2 world record fees which seemed reasonable at the time (although a great bargain in Ronaldo's case), RvN was no longer wanted by Sir Alex? :confused:
 
The Taurean said:
Not sure where you got that info. That's sounds too crazy to be true.

to be fair, few months ago 200 mill transfer fee would be considered outrageous to be true.
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serghei said:
ESPN Brazil IIRC. Credible as far as I know.
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The figures involved in Neymar's transfer are hard to wrap my head around. In addition to what PSG is giving him and his dad, Qatar is going to pay him €300m to be an "ambassador" for the 2022 World Cup.
 
ravi2 said:
The figures involved in Neymar's transfer are hard to wrap my head around. In addition to what PSG is giving him and his dad, Qatar is going to pay him €300m to be an "ambassador" for the 2022 World Cup.
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Nah, those are for the buyout. Or so the press says. Neymar will basically be paying his release clause from 'his own money' and would be signing for PSG on a free transfer. Anyway, it's too complicated to know for sure what is going on there, who pays who from which money, what taxes should be collected etc.
 
ravi2 said:
The figures involved in Neymar's transfer are hard to wrap my head around. In addition to what PSG is giving him and his dad, Qatar is going to pay him €300m to be an "ambassador" for the 2022 World Cup.
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Lol. Zidane was an ambassador for Qatar before the attribution of the World Cup: he earned 15 millions of euros

300m >>> Fake news IMO
 
Cal? said:
Feck the Cesc thing? I'm not claiming Real are squeaky clean, but they've never stooped as low as Barca did with Cesc.

Figo they paid the release clause, Zidane & Ronaldo were 2 world record fees which seemed reasonable at the time (although a great bargain in Ronaldo's case), RvN was no longer wanted by Sir Alex? :confused:
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Can't argue against it, say feck it.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
So what's the issue here? If PSG breach FFP, they ll get fined and get transfer banned like Barca.
Does FFP dictate that a transfer should be stopped before it happens?
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Transfer bans only concern the UEFA and national leagues. The UEFA will only be in a position to prevent PSG or Neymar to play in European competitions.
 
JPRouve said:
Transfer bans only concern the UEFA and national leagues. The UEFA will only be in a position to prevent PSG or Neymar to play in European competitions.
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And they still won't do that because PSG will find a workaround or they simply won't want to miss out on having one of the best teams in Europe with one of the most marketable players on the planet in their competition. It's teams like Ludogorets, Sion, Besiktas, Shakhtar etc. who might miss out on Europe because of FFP, not teams with Neymar in squad.
 
gica_7 said:
I love that Barca is getting more and more desperate by every second. Barca has done it for years. David Villa, Jordi Alba, Suarez, Zlatan etc. were all tapped up by Barca. Let's not forget that Madrid has done the same thing with Ronaldo and will try the same with De Gea again. Barca should shut up and move on. They are getting a world record fee. If they are feeling bad, they should imagine what Santos felt back when Neymar signed for Barca. Barca's true face reveals itself when things do not go as favourable as they would like.

The elephant in the room in this case, is a state is supposedly buying the player. Qatar was the sponsor of Barca of course but this is different. From this point on, PSG or City can throw all the money they like for every player with a release clause. FFP is the reason why we probably will not be able to sign Perisic. It creates a giant loophole on an flawed and unjust system. FFP standards for giants of Europe is not the same for a team in Turkey. From now on, FFP for PSG or City will not be same for United. If Uefa is really serious about a fair system, they should be more careful designing rules from now on.

I can't stand Neymar either. He is just a wannabe. He wants to show everybody that he is a global icon and he wants to rub it in people's eyes. I became even more irritated by him after seeing his attitude during NBA Finals. Neymar might be right about being in Messi's shadow. I don't know because it is his life. I will say this though, I will never understand how and why a player like him want to leave a club like Barca for PSG. Sorry to offend PSG fans over here, but no matter how successful they've become, I just can't find City or PSG organic. This whole becoming global thing looks a couple of sizes big on them. If I were on Neymar's shoes I would much rather continue with Barcelona.

I hate every party in this saga. Hope they will all regret this.
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Agree with all this. Can't stand Neymar, can't stand Barca. Glad this is happening even though I don't like what PSG stands for.
 
gica_7 said:
I can't stand Neymar either. He is just a wannabe. He wants to show everybody that he is a global icon and he wants to rub it in people's eyes. I became even more irritated by him after seeing his attitude during NBA Finals. Neymar might be right about being in Messi's shadow. I don't know because it is his life. I will say this though, I will never understand how and why a player like him want to leave a club like Barca for PSG. Sorry to offend PSG fans over here, but no matter how successful they've become, I just can't find City or PSG organic. This whole becoming global thing looks a couple of sizes big on them. If I were on Neymar's shoes I would much rather continue with Barcelona.

I hate every party in this saga. Hope they will all regret this.
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serghei said:
The deal between Neymar and PSG is reportedly worth a lot more than the transfer sum. The release clause is just the start. The investment in Neymar rumored to be over 500m. I've read from some credible sources that Neymar would get 100m. sign on bonus and his father 40m. sign on bonus.
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Sarni said:
And they still won't do that because PSG will find a workaround or they simply won't want to miss out on having one of the best teams in Europe with one of the most marketable players on the planet in their competition. It's teams like Ludogorets, Sion, Besiktas, Shakhtar etc. who might miss out on Europe because of FFP, not teams with Neymar in squad.
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You are most likely right and it's probably the big clubs who will be against their ban.
 
Neymar is a bit of a clown but that much money is impossible to refuse for him and his father. For him to win the ballon d'or, it's either win the CL with PSG which isn't impossible but still unlikely for me or win the world cup for Brazil.
 
Its fun to see Barcelona suffer the same fate they inflict to other clubs. On the other hand it would be funny if Neymar flopped at PSG or the only title he'll win will be a French title.
 
psychdelicblues said:
£££££££££££
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I know but it is not like he is paid like a Tottenham player there. Both him and his father are taken care of. Playing with Messi and Barcelona paved the way for him to go all the way to the China for promotional events and getting paid incredibly. I wouldn't demand a transfer to Real if I were Cristiano too, for example. But at least he was going to his childhood dream. What exactly Neymar is doing here?
 
Ban said:
Its fun to see Barcelona suffer the same fate they inflict to other clubs. On the other hand it would be funny if Neymar flopped at PSG or the only title he'll win will be a French title.
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That's the dream scenario. Sends Barca on a downwards slope as they struggle to replace him, PSG doesn't win CL, Brazil doesn't win the WC. Perhaps too glorious to all come true but I'm rooting for it.
 
gica_7 said:
I know but it is not like he is paid like a Tottenham player there. Both him and his father are taken care of. Playing with Messi and Barcelona paved the way for him to go all the way to the China for promotional events and getting paid incredibly. I wouldn't demand a transfer to Real if I were Cristiano too, for example. But at least he was going to his childhood dream. What exactly Neymar is doing here?
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He is playing professional football otherwise he would have stayed in Brazil.
 
Barcelona and PSG drawing eachother in this season's CL knockouts is just the most obvious thing ever
 
If it's clear he's going, should Barca not be pushing for the transfer themselves? They don't want to leave themselves with too little time to find a replacement. I think signing two players if possible would be massive for them. Maybe Coutinho, and have a go at a Dembele with their funds.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
That's the dream scenario. Sends Barca on a downwards slope as they struggle to replace him, PSG doesn't win CL, Brazil doesn't win the WC. Perhaps too glorious to all come true but I'm rooting for it.
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Yeah, don't care about Barca that much (like them a bit more than Madrid tho), I detest clubs like PSG and everything they stand for and I don't care for Brasil team, they irritate me, especially since 2014 world cup and Neymar's fake tears and how everything was set for them to win it only to be destroyed by Germany.
 
Cal? said:
Feck the Cesc thing? I'm not claiming Real are squeaky clean, but they've never stooped as low as Barca did with Cesc.

Figo they paid the release clause, Zidane & Ronaldo were 2 world record fees which seemed reasonable at the time (although a great bargain in Ronaldo's case), RvN was no longer wanted by Sir Alex? :confused:
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You asked me to provide an example of similar tap ups by Real. Real have acted worse with bigger names in bigger transfers.

Zidane was tapped up by Perez over dinner well before talking to Juve and Real tapped up Figo as part of an election race. They might have met Figo's buy out clause but that only because Barca were not going to budge to them. The Ronaldo saga speaks for itself. Calderón was already talking about Ruud before things kicked off with him an SAF. Calderon wouldn't have gone public if there wasn't already positive dialogue with Ruud for fear of getting egg on his face. I doubt SAF and Ruud would have fallen out as bad had Real not been talking to Ruud.
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Can't argue against it, say feck it.
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What are you on about? Cesc was engineering moves out Arsenal not long after he joined, in case you didn't know.

He was always linked with United (were we unsettling him?) and it didn't happen, Arsenal lacked ambition and he ended up back at Barca. Barca didn't even need him yet paid 35m or whatever it was and had him sat on the bench or playing #9 just to give him minutes. They gave Arsenal first refusal on any transfer out of Barca but Arsenal didn't want him back.

Arsene even made him captain at 21 or 22, largely to have him stick around but he was never into it and was just biding his time before he moved to a bigger club.
 
This is funny because it is happening to Barca. Yes, I admire them because they are a historically great club, just like us. But they seem to be involved in lots of shady deals(Ironically, the Neymar deal to Barca was shady as feck). They can't complain when the same happens to them.

But the money that these oil clubs are spending concerns me. Even rich clubs like United, Barca and Madrid have limits. These oil clubs seemingly have none. They are exploiting all the loopholes and UEFA does feck all about it. But sooner or later, I think it is all bound to come crashing. Or at least I hope so, for football's sake.

Regarding Neymar, Im a bit disappointed. Going to a league where his team is pretty much guaranteed the title(Monaco have been torn apart) and purely for the sake of money seems rather unambitious, especially for a player of his talent. But then again, the money he is being offered is insane and fair enough if he prioritises that over everything else. I hope Barca and PSG play each other, will be electric, that match! :D
 
MannyB said:
You asked me to provide an example of similar tap ups by Real. Real have acted worse with bigger names in bigger transfers.

Zidane was tapped up by Perez over dinner well before talking to Juve and Real tapped up Figo as part of an election race. They might have met Figo's buy out clause but that only because Barca were not going to budge to them. The Ronaldo saga speaks for itself. Calderón was already talking about Ruud before things kicked off with him an SAF. Calderon wouldn't have gone public if there wasn't already positive dialogue with Ruud for fear of getting egg on his face. I doubt SAF and Ruud would have fallen out as bad had Real not been talking to Ruud.

What are you on about? Cesc was engineering moves out Arsenal not long after he joined, in case you didn't know.

He was always linked with United (were we unsettling him?) and it didn't happen, Arsenal lacked ambition and he ended up back at Barca. Barca didn't even need him yet paid 35m or whatever it was and had him sat on the bench or playing #9 just to give him minutes. They gave Arsenal first refusal on any transfer out of Barca but Arsenal didn't want him back.

Arsene even made him captain at 21 or 22, largely to have him stick around but he was never into it and was just biding his time before he moved to a bigger club.
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Cesc "engineering a move already" doesn't excuse how Barcelona & it's players were going to extremes to tap him up. The rest, about how they gave Arsenal first-refusal offer or didn't use him much, is completely irrelevant.

Also, he asked for similar level of shittyness from Real Madrid, to which I think you've provided none.
 
gica_7 said:
I know but it is not like he is paid like a Tottenham player there. Both him and his father are taken care of. Playing with Messi and Barcelona paved the way for him to go all the way to the China for promotional events and getting paid incredibly. I wouldn't demand a transfer to Real if I were Cristiano too, for example. But at least he was going to his childhood dream. What exactly Neymar is doing here?
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Do like the fact that with 2 posts you manage to have a go at Barcelona, PSG, Neymar and catch Spurs somehow in the process.
 
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