Why is he not going yet? He has burnt all his bridges with the fans, so he has no choice but to go now. He'd better hope PSG comes up with 222m soon because Barca fans from Catalonia are different from the ones in USA. Just go already.
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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Really funny seeing Barca being so hot and bothered. Real Madrid deserve such kind of shit even more but can't have everything in life i suppose.
Not as funny as seeing United fans, a club full of history and tradition, siding with oil clubs funded by Qatar because Barca beat their club in two CL finals 6 years ago. Funny and sad at the same time actually.
Ironic considering you were sponsored by Qatar until last year. I don't give a shit about PSG.
I really don't think anybody here is motivated by losses in the CL. Fair enough, we lost to some great teams. I think most of this are loving this more due to Barca's hypocrisy and arrogance after years of shady dealings and preferential treatment. You can harp on about being 'more than a club' all you want but you do just as much shady BS as the Qatari oil clubs (weren't you sponsored by a Qatari company btw?
)Actually, it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with Barca being very dodgy when it comes to transfers, tapping up and unsettling players. Your team is scum, the same with Real.
Who was your shirt sponsor in the recent past? Aren't your legends like Xavi, Pep ambassadors or some shit for Qatar?
Qatar this that
Agreed. However, there's really no historical precedent I can think of, that is similar to the owners of PSG and City. They can practically print money, no owners in the past have that kind of spending power. Blackburn, Rangers, Chelsea, United, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona - there's historically been gaps in spending power, but also a semblance of parity as well.
Barca almost certainly set that 220€ clause thinking nobody would be able to trigger it, and PSG might have crossed that line. The market has exploded this season. 75+ mil Lukaku, 40 mil for Matic. , Mbappe's rumoured price.
I wrote a post recently that what Monaco could receive in transfer funds if the numbers bandied about are true, would actually exceed Forbe's valuations of entire clubs - like Everton or Roma. If Monaco sold Mbappe for 175 mil € and Lemar and Fabinho for 50 mil € each, that's almost half a billion Euros in income if you count Martial too. In May this year, Forbes doesn't even have Monaco in the top 25 most valuable teams. I know it's just Forbes valuations, but my point is that if Forbes values major teams like Roma or Everton for less than what Monaco is receiving in transfer fees, that's shocking.
In this market, only 2 teams seem to be operating without many qualms, PSG and City. Their owners, for all extents and purposes, are not a "wealthy businessman" or oligarch, but rather oil producing countries.
There is no historical precedent for this, this is shaping up to be the nightmare scenario we've expected from the likes of City and PSG all along. A whole new level of spending that can leave the likes of United, Barca, Roman Abramovich, Real Madrid and others left reeling at the astronomical prices floating about.
I'm certainly not enjoying "seeing Barca their comeuppance" too much. This market is for sharks, and City and PSG look to be establishing themselves as the great whites. This could be a paradigm shift - clubs that can meet any price and suffer any loss without wincing. Think about it, PSG and City could get relegated next year after all they've spent, and their owners wouldn't feel the sting.
This is unprecedented, there is no historical comparison I'm aware of.
We are simply siding with a club in the right.
You did the same thing to PSG just a few weeks ago, did the same to Arsenal a few years ago.
You screwed over Santos to get Neymar including a number of dodgy payments on the side, and now that the shoe is on the other foot you cry about your injustice.
If United acted in the same hypocritical manner, I would call them out on it too.
So assuming this goes ahead. Barca are going be losing Neymar and if Liverpool stay strong with Coutinho, lose out on him as well.
Won't look good for one of the biggest clubs in the world to lose 3rd best player in the world and not replace them with a big name.
Won't look good for one of the biggest clubs in the world to lose 3rd best player in the world and not replace them with a big name.
Many of us are quite frankly indifferent. Also, you're taking too much credit on your side if you think anybody is speaking anything because of those losses which are fair and square. But if Barcelona is really trying to persuade clubs into some kind of anti PSG coalition, that's embarrassing on another level considering their transfer behavior before.
I can understand that this comes heavy to Barca fans but you could still look at some things realistically.
Exactly. Barca fans moaning about Neymar is ironic considering how they signed him and all the illegal payments. fecked Santos in the process.
The other thing, and the ugly truth in my opinion, is that PSG and City have the funds to legally challenge UEFA and possibly break UEFA's back in legal expenses, if so inclined. I'm not so sure UEFA is up for fighting them in European courts if they bring their full financial weight to bear if UEFA kicks them out of the CL.
The difference is that there is more money in football today, the figures are shocking but that's due to the growth of football in the last 30 years. Otherwise when local businessmen put the equivalent of 200k in United in the 30s, we are talking about huge amounts of money too, of course it was in order to save the club from bankruptcy but that's still a huge amount of money for the time.
As for the fees, you can say the same thing about pretty much all the world record registered between late 90s and mid 2000s, remember that there is far more money in football today than 10 years ago. Zidane went for a 10th of United, the biggest club in the world, he went for more than a club like Marseille was sold last year. Messi can buy half of Ligue 1 clubs with his annual wage without bonuses.
The clauses are fine, they allow players to agree on an appropriate sale price for what they earn. If they win a shit, like Ceballos in Betis, then the clause is low.
It´s a good way to avoid too greedy clubs.
I think in this case the problem is to act behind the back of the club. Surely Barcelona has acted badly in the past, but the transfer of Neymar was agreed and signed by Santos.
On trying to sign players from other clubs, it happens constantly. Agents are in permanent contact with all teams. PSG has had countless meetings with different elite players. For example,with Cristiano and Mendes when he had to play a C.L final, however to touch Verratti is a heresy and justify everything a posteriori.
I am surprised that so many people support PSG, that is, the new rich who does whatever he wants. Basically the same as City does. I imagine people are fed up with the domination of a few and is able to join the least expected.
It´s a good way to avoid too greedy clubs.
I think in this case the problem is to act behind the back of the club. Surely Barcelona has acted badly in the past, but the transfer of Neymar was agreed and signed by Santos.
On trying to sign players from other clubs, it happens constantly. Agents are in permanent contact with all teams. PSG has had countless meetings with different elite players. For example,with Cristiano and Mendes when he had to play a C.L final, however to touch Verratti is a heresy and justify everything a posteriori.
I am surprised that so many people support PSG, that is, the new rich who does whatever he wants. Basically the same as City does. I imagine people are fed up with the domination of a few and is able to join the least expected.
I say United need to be careful as well. You wanted Neymar but couldn't compete financially. You're not as rich as you think when you compete with oil clubs. I say be careful because City with Pep and unlimited money can become the best team in Manchester for years to come.
How will you compete with oil clubs like Man. City when you have to be financially healthy while they can absorb huge losses because of their oil money? You are happy PSG stole a big player from Barca, but you fail to see the danger of this situation regarding City and United's domestic situation.
How will you compete with oil clubs like Man. City when you have to be financially healthy while they can absorb huge losses because of their oil money? You are happy PSG stole a big player from Barca, but you fail to see the danger of this situation regarding City and United's domestic situation.
I still think he will stay. I think he will sign a new contract within a month or two.
But City and PSG also run the risk of a Big club breakaway with the big clubs forming their own competitions.
Make no mistake, this big clubs will not simply stand for this. Barca will hope to trigger that ill-feeling.
Not really the reason. Barca on the whole are just a very detestable club and have been long before those finals. They have gotten worse over time too.
It's past that point. The fans and his teammates are pissed off. He is gone, so the sooner he moves, the better it is for all parties involved.
Purely a coincidence that Madrid and Barca, the two most successful clubs of the last decades are the most hated here. I find that hard to believe.
Time to change the seats to "More than a whinge"
A bit of a needless sexual tension here. No one is getting wronged. Both can walk out of the transfer with positives.
I will be really happy if Barcelona looses Neymar be it PSG or anyone else. Mostly because it will be a first time in I don't know how long that the Spanish duopoly will lose a player they desperately didn't want to lose. A global superstar. Potential heir to Messi. The whining is already epic, wait till the transfer gets done.
PSG and City are members of the ECA and El Khelaifi is a member of the executive board.
City have been doing it for years. They have outspent everyone for close to a decade it's not a new sensation.
United can afford to compete financially, but are also a for profit business with a sustainable business model so won't go silly but have enough money to sign almost who we want and with the right decisions in terms of management are in a good position.
Don't worry about United and get upset because we are laughing at Barca for getting some bad luck after years and years of treating everyone else with contempt.
I will be really happy if Barcelona looses Neymar be it PSG or anyone else. Mostly because it will be a first time in I don't know how long that the Spanish duopoly will lose a player they desperately didn't want to lose. A global superstar. Potential heir to Messi. The whining is already epic, wait till the transfer gets done.
I wonder if you'll be really happy when City will do it as well pretty soon. If you don't handle City, you'll become Manchester's 2nd club in terms of power and the ability to draw players. If that happens, I can only wish you good luck in trying to keep up with City.
Not to the point of not being able to keep up with the sums for the normally ran clubs. If oil clubs will access sums that will not be available to any 'normal' club, the shit will hit the fan so to speak.
Two clubs that essentially make and break the rules as they please. Makes perfect sense to me. But neither are the most hated. Liverpool are.
What rules
Nah. PSG has the Paris factor and easy league factor for players and that's how they attract big names. Manchester City is still in Manchester and the shadow is a little too big and if we really want to compete for a player we can.
Nah, that isn't the reason, we just think your club and the fans are unbearable, that is all.
Also you are plenty happy to play dirty when you go after other clubs players, about time the same happened to you.
"Mes que un club" my ass.
Shady transfer dealings. Barca more so, but Madrid are not innocent. They love a good tap-up.
Meh. This kind of transfers won't become the norm. I'm not worried about City. Pep will be gone in a few years. Latin superstars will be drawn to spanish big clubs and City won't be able to make any big quality gap in such competitive league as is EPL.
Rumor has it the Neymar deal is costing PSG around 600m. Simple question. Can United, or any other club, can afford that investment for a single player, while maintaining a stable situation from a financial standpoint?
If the answer is no, and it surely is, that this transfer is big trouble for any club that works as a corporation. City can't wait to see if PSG get sanctioned for FFP or not. If PSG make the deal and get away with it, expect a similar move from City as well pretty soon.
Correct. 10-12 years ago I'd be slightly concerned, but now it will just be more of the same. Hire and fire managers. Sign players, bench them, sell them, blow more money, win some cups, struggle with consistency.
Our business model will win out in the long run as it did a decade ago when Chelsea came along.
Didn't Barcelona also pay a dodgey 150mil plus fee for neymar?
Maybe, and maybe that's not a bad idea, but what's to stop the likes Abu Dhabi buying a club in the new competition.
Has he signed for PSG? Why so much activity in the thread what's the news?
Neymar's don't grow on tree's. This is something of a one-off and not the norm. City will spend big, we will spend big. They will get some of their targets, we will get some of ours. Water is also wet.
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