I couldnt give a rats ass about Barca not being as entertaining to watch. I hope they go down in flames and we take over. Just one less competitor to worry about in the CL. Why would any United fan be worried about Barca?
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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I can't speak for anyone else but it's one less genuine club. We aren't likely to replace them. One of PSG, Chelsea, City are. Is there a reason people don't like them other than they've been the best and take the best players?
FFP was meant to sort all this out, it clearly didn't. However, the principal of a club spending what they earn, is correct. But we know this doesn't work, as clubs like City & PSG just sponsor themselves via different companies.
Somehow, something needs to be done so the likes of rich sugar daddies, don't ruin the game further.
Somehow, something needs to be done so the likes of rich sugar daddies, don't ruin the game further.
The reason I don't like them is the "more than a club" nonsense they try to portray. They're a massive club and have a culture of attractive football etc, but they certainly aren't "more than a club". They're a normal club like everyone else.
They are also utter cnuts when they publicly chase players for months if not years, so much so that the player only wants to join them which forces the selling club to settle for much less than they would want. I get that it's business and that is fair enough, but you can't be utter cnuts one day and masquerade as superior beings the next.
Oh? Have you forgotten?
The player theyre throwing so much fuss about is all you have to look into, let alone all of the other scandals and corruption they have including taxes...
Barcelona is one of the most corrupt clubs there is. I'd kiss any oil badge anyday instead of that rat infested hellhole.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-lose-appeal-to-face-fraud-corruption-charges
What I don't understand with this type of statement, is that Sugar daddies have been the main model in football. Some clubs broke out of it because of favorable circumstances but let's not pretend that Juventus, Bayern, United, Barcelona or Madrid didn't beneficiate from rich local businessmen.
They are also probably the biggest cheaters I have seen on the pitch. The diving, etc. All this despite usually being vastly superior to their opponents anyway. Absolutely no need for it.
The more than a club has nothing to do with football, if that's the reason you don't like then it's misplaced.
Edit: It's political and social, locally Barcelona are a symbol of catalanism.
City had a net spending of ~150m last season. It is currently ~170m so far this season.. (They might sell someone)
Why is there outrage over PSG spending 200m on a player when they are going to sell a few players and have a net spend lower than what City might have 2 years in a row?
Why is there outrage over PSG spending 200m on a player when they are going to sell a few players and have a net spend lower than what City might have 2 years in a row?
I love it when Barcelona get manhandled like this, they're hating it.
I don't want PSG to get him, but I disagree with forming an alliance against them. If he wants to leave, let him go.. it is actually quite cool, that an up and coming club can cause this sort of head feck with a historic club, keeps everyone on their toes.
I understand that originally that was the case but nowadays it has been brought into everything they do, such as how they perform on the pitch, bringing kids through from La Masia, re-signing players that have left etc, it has become a symbol for the way they operate which is false.
I basically don't like them because the image they portray of themselves is false.
The image isn't false, Barcelona is what you described, the only problem is that they are currently led by people that don't care about Barcelona or Catalunya or anything else but themselves, in my opinion it's important to realize that the club is currently under "foreign" control by Bartomeu and formerly Rossell.
No need to open with a condescending tone. Swear the internet is getting worse for this shit, and the caf since any old newbie can post.
I'll accept that there's been corruption. Not sure how much the taxes have to do with the club? I thought that was players and their accountants.
I'd personally rather have Barca around than an oil club, but whatever
Because teams like Leeds, Portsmouth, Blackburn and Villa have become nearly non existent because of their owners. Look at the Chinese Super league, there are talks going on that that 13 teams or so will have to come out of the league, as they can't afford to pay their players.
Times have changed since the owners of the teams you mentioned above, were owned by sugar daddies. They were run for the love of the club. Wanting the best for the club. Heck, some of the sugar daddies themselves nearly become skint because of it. Now it's the opposite.
Surely this should help you why my original statement was made.
Agree.
And Liverpool are a symbol of Liverpudlism. West Ham a symbol of Geezerism.
As I see it, nowadays they use it more as a brand or a slogan like all other big companies do to make themselves different and more recognizable, especially for the younger generation. To cut it short, they use it mainly for marketing purposes.
It's bollocks as we all know it, but personally, it doesn't bother me.
Maybe, I don't know much about the history of both clubs and I don't know how much political autonomy and independence play a part in Merseyside and parts of London.
I don't see the point in having a massive buyout clause then wanting the bring in the authorities and whip up a hate campaign when a club meets it. It stinks of being a poor 'loser'.
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Yup, it is quite known in Barcelona concerning the amount of side-deal bullsh# Rosell and his junta had to go through to get Neymar, which pissed off Santos, spanish goverment, brazilian goverment. The whole deal has lead to Rosell being convicted, Bartomeu probably with a future of ending up being convicted, bunch of Neymar's assets and income from Brazil are frosen, and on top of it; there are many rumours of Douglas, and other of Neymar's friends being part of the deal to get Neymar, and to please his father (hm, the rumour of their Paulinho interest does make sense now, doesn't it). On top of it all, back in 2014 some of the crazy deals from Neymar gate started to sip out to the press, one of them being his father specifically ordered to have an orgy in London Trafalgar Square, as part of the deal with Rosell and barca. Then the pictures started to show up at Barca forums, with his mouth covered in lipstick marks from kisses, as he is all happy and hugging around a bunch of male looking bimbos - hence why Neymar's father has been nicknamed as transvestite lover around some of the not-so-Neymar fanatics cules.
All the economical headache that Neymar and his father has given the club every summer, it is understandable that many cules wants Neymar out after this summer, which has been a ridiculous soap opera. There are few small pictures put up around Camp Nou from yesterday, calling Neymar a traitor, and it feels like the overall sense is that Neymar is gone.
The common notion however, is that Neymar and his father got something on the current Barca board, hence why they can feck around with Bartomeu and co. And it takes two to dance tango, the current barca board brought this on themselves, since they agreed on all the ridiculous fees and side deals that Neymar and his father wanted. Doubt they (Neymar&co) could pull off the same thing against Nasser and co though...
Yup, it is quite known in Barcelona concerning the amount of side-deal bullsh# Rosell and his junta had to go through to get Neymar, which pissed off Santos, spanish goverment, brazilian goverment. The whole deal has lead to Rosell being convicted, Bartomeu probably with a future of ending up being convicted, bunch of Neymar's assets and income from Brazil are frosen, and on top of it; there are many rumours of Douglas, and other of Neymar's friends being part of the deal to get Neymar, and to please his father (hm, the rumour of their Paulinho interest does make sense now, doesn't it). On top of it all, back in 2014 some of the crazy deals from Neymar gate started to sip out to the press, one of them being his father specifically ordered to have an orgy in London Trafalgar Square, as part of the deal with Rosell and barca. Then the pictures started to show up at Barca forums, with his mouth covered in lipstick marks from kisses, as he is all happy and hugging around a bunch of male looking bimbos - hence why Neymar's father has been nicknamed as transvestite lover around some of the not-so-Neymar fanatics cules.
All the economical headache that Neymar and his father has given the club every summer, it is understandable that many cules wants Neymar out after this summer, which has been a ridiculous soap opera. There are few small pictures put up around Camp Nou from yesterday, calling Neymar a traitor, and it feels like the overall sense is that Neymar is gone.
The common notion however, is that Neymar and his father got something on the current Barca board, hence why they can feck around with Bartomeu and co. And it takes two to dance tango, the current barca board brought this on themselves, since they agreed on all the ridiculous fees and side deals that Neymar and his father wanted. Doubt they (Neymar&co) could pull off the same thing against Nasser and co though...
Amusing that Barca are just now wanting to "form an alliance" against PSG after being fecked over, yet I can't remember the speaking out against City, Chelsea when they established new normals.
More than a club indeed!
More than a club indeed!
That's a slightly different debate and I agree with you on the fact that we need to protect clubs from reckless owners. Now we shouldn't be naive, Sugar daddies of yesterday are exactly like Sugar daddies of today, they use clubs as toys, billboard or source of income.
just a stunt to get his salary increased.
The absolute arrogance of complaining about a club buying their best players. They're happy to do it to other clubs but how dare it be done to them.
It really couldn't be happening to a nicer club. 
Barca had put in a release clause in Neymar's contract, They could have set it at 500M but didn't. If a club is ready to pay that contract, what is the problem in here? They did exactly same with Suarez deal i think.
The Edwards family benefited from United. Not the other way around. The Glazers have heaped millions in debt upon us.
The player have a say in the clause of his contract, they couldn't have put the clause that they wanted.
Come on PSG - complete this deal already so that we can all laugh at Barca.
United's history is a bit longer than that and yes today United owners will benefit from the club, a club that has been supported and saved from bankruptcy a few times by local businessmen.
They didn't negotiate good enough then.
They had no power in that negotiation, Neymar was holding all the cards.
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Oh boo hoo Barcelona. As soon as they sign Neymar PSG should start making noise about signing Messi/Suarez to go along with him just to annoy Barcelona any further
The idea behind FFP is simple - a club's income cannot be supplemented by direct or indirect subsidy from its owners - it must be derived from legitimate commercial sources.
There are effectively four legitimate sources of club income: 1) gate receipts 2) prize money 3) tv 4) sponsorship and commercial partnerships
Of those 4, all are fan based except for 2), which only comprises a small part of the income of a top club.
Gate receipts are determined by size of stadium, average price of admission and number of local fans. TV income depends on the popularity of the league and its saleability around the world. Income from sponsorship and commercial deals is proportional to a club's worldwide fan base.
In all of those metrics, except for the relatively insignificant 2), PSG is greatly inferior to a club like Barcelona with its huge reservoir of fans across the world. Yet it can outspend the Spanish club?
There's no need to analyse the clubs' financial accounts. If an intelligent person is told that an athlete in Zikizaki has registered a 12 foot high jump, he dismisses the report out of hand - it's impossible. What PSG and City are doing is equally impossible. They don't have the fan numbers for the incomes they're reporting.
Poor Barca will only have two of the five best attacking players in the world now not three.
Those poor season ticket holders. How will they bare watching just Messi and Suarez every week!?
Those poor season ticket holders. How will they bare watching just Messi and Suarez every week!?
"Cry me a river" Barca, as J.Timberlake would say.
The irony is absolutely magnificent, and from the reports they seem complete blind to it.
There is just one problem the last one is based on visibility while the UEFA can and should rectify some of the deals, PSG and City are extremely visible and they therefore have a pretty big commercial value, not as big as historical clubs like United, Barcelona, Madrid or Bayern but they are great commercial tools nonetheless. And Barcelona aren't outspent by PSG, they just crippled themselves with stupid contracts, United and Madrid have shown that they are perfectly able to spend as much as anyone.
Also in the case of City, they benefits from the TV deals like the rest of the league.
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