It's not exactly new, plenty of first division clubs in the top leagues are worth less than Lindelof, let alone Lukaku or Neymar.
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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It's not exactly new, plenty of first division clubs in the top leagues are worth less than Lindelof, let alone Lukaku or Neymar.
Got to love Barca throwing their toys out of their pram - if you take Neymar we're reporting you regarding FFP 
fecking mugs, they don't like it when it's done to them
fecking mugs, they don't like it when it's done to themGot to love Barca throwing their toys out of their pram - if you take Neymar we're reporting you regarding FFP
It's kind of a game between PSG and Barcelona.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-to-complain-about-referee-in-barcelona-game/
Add the whole unsettling of Verratti drama et voila.
At least we'll have something interesting drama to watch in next couple of months.
Not wanting to go too deep into this , but income is actually different than revenue as the income is the net profit , i.e. is what remains after rents , utilities , payrolls , interested paid on debts , tax costs , etc ( even NPO probably have costs , right )Revenue is the total income a club generates in a year. They're synonyms in the specific case
Unless you meant profit, but that's another story. Barcelona are owned by socios, it's a non-profit organization. All the profit stays in the club. All they need on that front is to break-even(and if they don't, the current president has to cover for up to a certain % of the losses afaik)
@Peyroteo barcelona fans aren't ok with ney leaving, they've been into full meltdown for a week
These clubs are surely financial pyramids nowadays and no one knows the exact profits , but the revenue is something probably they cannot hide as everything they sign must be from the clubs name and be shown as a revenue .
I've read that psg could avoid any ffp problems by letting their quatari overlords pay the sum of the release clause to neymar via sponsorships, so he himself is able to activate it and psg wouldnt be directly involved. Fake news?
Barca is not a pyramid, it's an NPO owned by its tens of thousands of club members, who all have to pay a membership fee every year. Their accounts are public. Both revenue AND profit are known, if one cares enough to look for them
Most likely fake news. Most likely PSG believe they can afford it thanks to increase in revenue and a bunch of sales of players
Iirc FFP doesn't consider the turnover, only the expenses directly related to the first team
If that happens, people would forget Neymar pretty quickly. Doubt we can get two world class players like Griezmann and Dybala. Both would be absolutely amazing and they could really flourish at Barcelona. But it would be over 250m. and Griezmann might not want to move to a domestic rival of Atletico.
I think that Griezmann would jump on the occasion to play for you, all his interviews have a part where he is asked about his future and everytime he mentions Barcelona and say that unfortunately you have the three "monsters", with one monster out I'm sure that you can convince him to join.
For me the problem with Dybala and Griezmann concerns the wages, I think that you should sign a younger player that will only have a huge wage when one of Suarez or Messi leaves, until then Neymar wage should be used in midfield and defense.
Wonder if PSG really are prepared in what they are getting in to. An orgy with transvestites at an appartment in Trafalgar Square for Neymar's father was evidently only the tip of the iceberg, in the deal that still to this day screws the barca board. 
I thought Greizman said he wouldn't leave this year because of Athletico's tranfer ban? On top of that doesn't he love United?
I can't see him turning us down for his loyalty to Athletico, then joining a direct rival.
I hope not anyway. I'd love him here next season.
Aaaah, ok.
Still, the other part is relevant, can't see him joining a direct rival. But I guess money talks, and if Barca sell Naymar they'll have plenty of it.
Can't see him joining Real directly, but Barca I can.
This is very much a possibility.
I was kinda confident of us signing Griezmann nxt summer before this Neymar saga.
What's the % chance now of him joining Barca now ?
Hopefully Barca would replace Neymar this summer then everything is back to normal ?
What's the % chance now of him joining Barca now ?
Hopefully Barca would replace Neymar this summer then everything is back to normal ?
As I rate Griezmann I'd also have him in Manchester United (or any other Premier League Team) instead of Barcelona. Don't believe he suits them as well as Neymar and they would probably want to replace him in this same transfer window and that goes without saying they also need to reinforce their midfield and get a right back. Finally I think they would pursue more Dybala than Griezmann.
Probably also Messi would prefer Dybala more than Griezmann , it would be interesting to see how aggressive would Barca be now if they sell Neymar and have to buy someone very fast , maybe even try for Azar / De Bruyne
I don't understand how Griezmann and Dybala would be solving Barcelona's problems. That just smacks of 'throw money at the situation for it to go away '. If they were selling Suarez, I'd understand purchasing one of Griezmann or Dybala, but since it's Neymar leaving, their team would become even more unbalanced. You have Dybala who already plays in the same areas as Messi, even if they moved Messi central, they'd have Suarez LW!? I suppose it could work if they switched to a Narrow 4-4-2 diamond with Messi at the Tip and Suarez and Dybala up front, but where is Griezmann?
Barcelona already had enough problems as it was without having to replace the best lw in the world. I personally think they should bring back Thiago with part of that Neymar money and it will go a long way to solving their longterm midfield issues. Given that Iniesta is no longer consistently at his best, I reckon Busquets, Rakitic and Thiago is more than sufficient to dominate 95% of their matches. If it functions well then I reckon they could get away with Deulofeu on LW. They could even bring back Pedro as a short term option until they found an LW suitable to replace Neymar.
Barcelona already had enough problems as it was without having to replace the best lw in the world. I personally think they should bring back Thiago with part of that Neymar money and it will go a long way to solving their longterm midfield issues. Given that Iniesta is no longer consistently at his best, I reckon Busquets, Rakitic and Thiago is more than sufficient to dominate 95% of their matches. If it functions well then I reckon they could get away with Deulofeu on LW. They could even bring back Pedro as a short term option until they found an LW suitable to replace Neymar.
Is it? I reckon even Titus Bramble would fetch more than my local team, and they'd probably swap the entire squad to get him in.
I saw a rumour on Twitter that the Qataris will pay Neymar 300m as their World Cup 2022 ambassador. He pays the release clause himself and go to PSG on a free transfer.
Is it viable? UEFA would look like a bunch of impotent cnuts if they let sth like that goes through, and the tax situation with Spain as well.
Is it viable? UEFA would look like a bunch of impotent cnuts if they let sth like that goes through, and the tax situation with Spain as well.
The whole thing just reeks. By coincidence Neymar is paid to be an Ambassador for a World Cup that should never have been awarded to that particular location to pay his insane buyout clause that's so large Barcelona must have thought no one in their right minds would pay it. Then moves to PSG where they will inevitably be eliminated by Barcelona in the 2nd round of the CL while winning Ligue 1 by 20+ points.
Ironic that Barcelona are complaining about FFP and all the rest of it, its funny how clubs that routinely mess around other clubs by unsettling their players cant handle it when its done to them.
That being said do they have a case of PSG tapping up Neymar? Not likely that he randomly would pay out his own buyout clause now is it and he isn't free to talk to other clubs at the moment.
No chance. Everyone knows tapping up is happening but unless you have evidence you have no case.
And that's why it makes it so crazy and impossible to prove. Also impossible to prove if a players entourage was offering a player about to clubs or if a club took the first step.
Yup. And in these days of big agencies, people like Mendes are in contact with clubs all the time so any player can be in discussion with any club through an intermediary. I don't think the discussions are a problem tbh, but when a player becomes so set on moving they start deliberately causing drama at their club to force a move it gets unseemly. Like there was no need for Neymar to kick up all the fuss of the last few days, PSG are going to activate his release clause anyway so just go about business as usual.
To be fair Neymar didn't do anything special.
Yeah, Neymar's not done anything really. It's not his fault Nelson Semedo lost his head and punched him.
Reports in France that Barca are trying to form an anti PSG coalition with other top sides.
Doesn't this development only affect Spanish clubs because of their clauses? They couldn't give Pogba money to transfer to PSG simply because there's nothing to pay into?
Doesn't this development only affect Spanish clubs because of their clauses? They couldn't give Pogba money to transfer to PSG simply because there's nothing to pay into?
Hopefully they will name it, The Field.
Barca trying to make themselves look as big a bunch of twats as possible. You lost, get over it, no need to be a sore loser.
Ah, I was under the impression the Semedo incident was more his doing.
I love the way that people are seeing this as some sort of moral victory against Barca as if they are some sort of evil entity. The levels of Jealously is embarrassing. Barca came up the same way we did, bringing up youth and buying top talent /players from elsewhere just like we have and every other fecking club that made it to the top. People think we didn't piss people off by buying their best players?? Not sure what they have done to United that would warrant such imbecilic remarks.
What they fail to realise that if a club like Barca can get fecked by oil merchants then we are all in fecking trouble. Nieve idiots.
What they fail to realise that if a club like Barca can get fecked by oil merchants then we are all in fecking trouble. Nieve idiots.
One of the big reasons for the hatred is that UEFA somehow seems to have a huge bias towards the likes of Barca/Real or teams Spain and least liking for English teams.
This may not be true or might be something over-hyped, but that has always been a complaint from fans.
Yeah, laughing at Barca who are losing a star player to PSG after they publicly asked Verrati to force PSG to sell him to Barca isn't funny at all...
Even if it was, it's not really uncommon. But in that case Neymar allegedly tried to nutmeg Semedo and he didn't like it.
Sort of get the feeling Neymar could move to Real in 3 years to replace Ronaldo, if he does move to PSG now. Perez might balk at the money involved, but he has long been a fan of Neymar and will be looking at the situation if Neymar wins the Ballon D'or or something.
Our Griezmann chances are now over. He is probably going to Barcelona, unless Barca spend all of their 220 this summer. They better spend a lot of it on Coutinho.
If it's true, that is both ridiculous and embarrassing. Because of that, I doubt it, but you never know. They definitely didn't take this one well.
Yep, there has always been that perception, but not sure what real evidence there has been for that, they have been fined and transfer banned too but it seems Madrid always find a way out. What I was saying is that I know there is hatred but there is no real reason for it apart from an unsubstantiated preferential treatment theory. I can imagine the Morons on Rawk and Bluemoon thinks that we have a bias or preferential treatment from FIFA or the FA yet we probably think otherwise.
Wonder if PSG really are prepared in what they are getting in to. An orgy with transvestites at an appartment in Trafalgar Square for Neymar's father was evidently only the tip of the iceberg, in the deal that still to this day screws the barca board.
What?
Well, we aren't. We don't have release clauses so it doesn't matter what they offer, we can refuse.
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