Hey guys, you can discuss you're biased unless you think Barca are the best in the history of the world ever in the Barca thread. 
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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Has nothing to do with the discussion we've been having for a while now.
Wow, suddenly the bland summer window gets exciting. Our RAWK thread will be rally active I am guessing.
Messi dismantled us singlehandedly in Rome. 2011 was dominance by the whole Barca team but you take the Argie midget out in 09 and we win the match.
If you think having Messi doesnt make a big difference at those crunch moments you are deluding yourself. Bayern under Pep arguably played as fine a brand of possssion football as that Barca team but couldnt win the CL, failing to break down Madrid or Atleti.
I doubt we were ever in for Mendy, we haven't been seriously linked to left backs. There's also no way we could afford a deal like this for Neymar so no point worrying over it.
Good thing for @serghei is that following his rants, Barca won't even miss neymar.
apparently no individual makes a difference. You should join the high church of Pepism. It's a place for people like you.
+ People pretending that the French league is some obscure place is also quite funny (and arrogant). I enjoy it when the top players are not all clumping at 3-4 clubs.
apparently no individual makes a difference. You should join the high church of Pepism. It's a place for people like you.+ People pretending that the French league is some obscure place is also quite funny (and arrogant). I enjoy it when the top players are not all clumping at 3-4 clubs.
In my opinion, that's what the discussion is all about. A team with many stars, or a team with an identity and a distinctive style? Because we had stars last season, but we were all over the place with our style. Barca may be losing a star player, and they are, but if they get their identity back, they will be better off. The club doesn't need players who don't want to be part of the same idea. And they also don't need an image of a club who gets blackmailed by players into getting them bigger contracts, or who use their influence to get mediocre Brazilian players in the team.
You were all over the place not because of your stars but because your midfield is a mixture of elderly players on their last legs and players who are far from good enough and your defence consisted of players who weren't actually defenders.
RMC say as per Uefa Psg will have to sell players for 110 million (50%) of neymar's purchase prize.
It's not about money, it's about facing the likes of Caen, Lorent, Montpelier and going toe to toe with a decimated Monaco for the league. Give me a break lad.
Too many stars are often problematic. Why do you think Pep let go of Ronaldinho and Deco and trusted unknown players at the time from the club. Why do you think Madrid's galactico team went to shit post 2003? It's hard to keep high motivation and high unity when players think about themselves a lot, about their advertising contracts, about personal recognition or Ballon d'Or chances. Building a team full of stars is not a long term plan. Look at Madrid as well, they're planning to sell Bale, and promote their own Spanish players like Isco or Asensio. After they have already sold their last star signing in James.
And about the midfield, it's improving at a fast rate under Valverde.
I wish Barca's board followed the same kind of thinking so they would trade us Messi for Fellaini. We could even throw in a bunch of motivational posters to help their team identity.Good thing for @serghei is that following his rants, Barca won't even miss neymar.
We should make a bid for Serge Aurier and one of Lucas Moura or Di Maria. Would love to see AdM back under Jose.
You let Ronaldinho and Deco go because of their mentality and the resulting poor influence on upcoming stars (like Messi). Not because they were good players. In fact, they were both in decline by that point.
Good thing for @serghei is that following his rants, Barca won't even miss neymar.
+ People pretending that the French league is some obscure place is also quite funny (and arrogant). I enjoy it when the top players are not all clumping at 3-4 clubs.
The guy is trying to buy half of Monaco in order to fulfill his CL ambition. Mes que un cheque.
Bored of this discussion now mate, we seem to be discussing different things every other post. Good luck to you with or without Neymar. Cheers.
I can tell you, as a Barca fan since 1999, that if this was 2008 and Neymar was at the team, he would have sold Neymar too. Pep at Barca never liked players who think about themselves more than about the team.
Sanchez deal off then? Not sure how they can raise 170+m from sales if they want to sign both Neymar and Sanchez.
Well, in 2009 the dismantling started on the axis Busi - Iniesta - Eto. If anything, it was the 2011 final where he was more of a personal threat to you. In both finals you didn't have a single clue how to block our midfield, and were chasing shadows in both games. Reducing it to Messi is absurd.
No problem, we can help by buying Verratti
I would take all three and they will be not that expensive either. But i would love to test them for veratti. 80 Million and we would be close to getting him. It was rumoured he would signa new contract and leave next year but maybe just maybe now PSG might sell him.
Well, the release clause makes it possible, but if he hates playing second fiddle to Messi, moving to Real with Ronaldo playing the exact position he does isn't going to help at all, he'll be overshadowed even more.
Oh, I agree. That said, I think there's a chance Neymar learns to control himself and fit in with that team, simply because you don't step away from being part of a legendary side so easily.
Even if it weren't for the release clause, Barca probably doesn't have much choice but to let Neymar go given the way he's acting up. I still can't believe how him getting suspended for his sister's birthday has been tolerated for so long. However, the onus is now on your board to invest this money wisely because if you don't it will leave you a weaker team. And they really haven't done a good job at spending the last couple windows.
Is anybody credible quoting this as I can't imagine trandporkies getting all these Barca inside scoops
To me, and this isn't as much about losing Neymar, as some here think, although I'm pissed about his behaviour, Neymar has a certain personality where he needs to be treated as the number 1 player. That, and he likes money. At Barcelona, he doesn't get any of those two things. At PSG he will get them. He's not going to change. That's who and his father are. They want attention and they want to get paid more than Barca are willing to give.
Neymar Sr. is the typical attention seeking father, who isn't that great at anything himself, so he uses his talented son to be as wealthy and as relevant as possible. This PSG move is the stuff of dreams for him. And it won't be long until he will invent some news again, to be on the spotlight as he likes.
This is a done deal, they're just trying figure the payment modalities and conducting some due diligence regarding FFP.
If Neymar had decided to remain at Barcelona, he wouldn't have maintained radio silence, he would have said something to the press.
He hasn't, there's nothing more Barca board can give him, he's basically a PSG player.
If Neymar had decided to remain at Barcelona, he wouldn't have maintained radio silence, he would have said something to the press.
He hasn't, there's nothing more Barca board can give him, he's basically a PSG player.
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feck that, just go balks deep on verratti
In all the ensuing argument over whether PSG would have beaten Barca with Neymar and other such nonsense, @serghei still is yet to point out a post where someone says Neymar going to PSG would make them a bigger club than Barca.
It's ok don't wet your eyes mate. You're losing your #2 guy, just as #1 has been in clear decline over the past few years and as your eternal rivals did CL repeat, picked La Liga and devoured all young Spanish talent for reasonable prices. And are about to get Mbappe.
This could all happen in August
Neymar => PSG
Coutinho=> Barca
Dybala => Barca
Mbappe => Madrid
Bale=> United?
Verrati => ????
Sanchez => city
Lemar => Arsenal
ADM => ????
Lucas moura =>????
Fabinho => ???
VVD => City/Team that hasnt won prem league for 26 years
Renato sanches = > ???
I think Neymar transfer will have a lot of domino effect as it will make barca buy atleast 2 top top players and then the clubs who sell will buy replacements. Looks like window has just started.
Neymar => PSG
Coutinho=> Barca
Dybala => Barca
Mbappe => Madrid
Bale=> United?
Verrati => ????
Sanchez => city
Lemar => Arsenal
ADM => ????
Lucas moura =>????
Fabinho => ???
VVD => City/Team that hasnt won prem league for 26 years
Renato sanches = > ???
I think Neymar transfer will have a lot of domino effect as it will make barca buy atleast 2 top top players and then the clubs who sell will buy replacements. Looks like window has just started.
Actually he ahs been very good. Also ESPN and other spanish outlets quoting now.
Do I need to do that? I said I believe some probably think that based on the comments I've read on the issue, not that some have actually said that black on white. No need for people to be offended if they think I'm talking nonsense.
This could all happen in August
Neymar => PSG
Coutinho=> Barca // LFC
Dybala => Barca // Juve (Barca will get one of the two not both)
Mbappe => Madrid
Bale=> United
Verrati => United
Sanchez => city
Lemar => Arsenal
ADM => Inter
Lucas moura => PSG
Fabinho => Juve
VVD => LFC if Coutinho has left
Renato sanches = > AC Milan or Hoofenheim
Neymar => PSG
Coutinho=> Barca // LFC
Dybala => Barca // Juve (Barca will get one of the two not both)
Mbappe => Madrid
Bale=> United
Verrati => United
Sanchez => city
Lemar => Arsenal
ADM => Inter
Lucas moura => PSG
Fabinho => Juve
VVD => LFC if Coutinho has left
Renato sanches = > AC Milan or Hoofenheim
Gutted we aren't in for him, would have been amazing here.
Seems we did some leg work, so I'm surprised we aren't more involved.
Seems we did some leg work, so I'm surprised we aren't more involved.
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