Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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Make it a official already. Does Barcelona think the other clubs are stupid. They´ll price their players up like the Neymar deal has gone through. Sure we sell Perisic, only 150M Euros and loan of Messi.
 
If you remove money from the equation, PSG wouldn't be in his top 3-4 potential destinations. But why would you remove the financial aspect? This is his profession and he's being offered the chance to lead a team, filled with mates of his, in one of the greatest cities in the world, for astronomic financial rewards. The transfer makes loads of sense in most of the ways that count to any professional, whether a footballer or otherwise.

Sure. Neymar is ready to join PSG but - maybe - not interested in joining a Chinese club at this stage of his career: who knows?

So, Money isn't the only one consideration to be taken into account even if it's obvious money plays a key role.

Other considerations:

- Need for change: new country, new language...
- A new challenge: to be the guy who makes PSG winning his 1st Champions League
- The opportunity to be the greatest player in the history of the French League and PSG
- The desire to be treated as the mega star of his team
- He would join 5 Brazilian players, including his best friend in the football universe (Dani Alves)
- He joins a club with unrivalled (?) means and a high ambition: a "Galactico Project" as would say Chester

The only aspect of the transfer that makes me uncomfortable is the people around him, namely his father, who you'd like to think would have his best interests at heart, could certainly be perceived to be driving this from self-interest. I always find that one of the most nauseating dynamics there is, where a parent is reliant - and often proactively so - on their child for their livelihood. It blurs the normal lines of parenthood in a way that doesn't sit well with me.

Neymar is no longer a child: I assume he is capable to disagree with father.

Depending on the period/region, family businesses were commonplace.

Father or stranger, an alignment of interests is always possible



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If you remove money from the equation, PSG wouldn't be in his top 3-4 potential destinations. But why would you remove the financial aspect? This is his profession and he's being offered the chance to lead a team, filled with mates of his, in one of the greatest cities in the world, for astronomic financial rewards. The transfer makes loads of sense in most of the ways that count to any professional, whether a footballer or otherwise.

The only aspect of the transfer that makes me uncomfortable is the people around him, namely his father, who you'd like to think would have his best interests at heart, could certainly be perceived to be driving this from self-interest. I always find that one of the most nauseating dynamics there is, where a parent is reliant - and often proactively so - on their child for their livelihood. It blurs the normal lines of parenthood in a way that doesn't sit well with me.
His father may think the accumulation of the most money is the best course of action in a limited career, and is that so wrong?
 
Sure, but they are still not comparable examples. Neymar already has a career and money in Barcelona, where he renewed a few months ago, paying him 25 million net and 50 to his father. Didn´t he realize in that moment that wasn´t the best for his career?.
I understand that he is frustrated after four years. Personally it´s the attitude of the player what I dislike although when he renewed going from 180 to 220 it was obvious that he would try something like this.

If instead of being the team you support, it´s a team of Emirates or China ,would you continue saying the same about the freedom of the market and the career/money?

A career is short so if a player wants to earn a maximum of money in an exotic country: it's his right and he has to be respected.

The contract was signed by 2 parties (Barcelona and the player) that agreed on the terms and conditions. So, the ongoing situation isn't really a massive surprise, but just an envisaged scenario last year. Barcelona has maybe underestimated the financial strength of PSG in a context of "FFP".

Also, Neymar needs no lessons from anyone IMO
 
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Neymar choosing PSG isn't surprising. Nike needs a face for their football enterprise who is also the face of his club and his country. PSG allows Neymar to be this all inclusive symbol for Nike a year before a World Cup.
 
Neymar choosing PSG isn't surprising. Nike needs a face for their football enterprise who is also the face of his club and his country. PSG allows Neymar to be this all inclusive symbol for Nike a year before a World Cup.
I doubt Nike had much involvement in making this decision at all. The role of sponsors is always overplayed.
 
It's not a surprise he'll want the move.

For a temperamental 25 year old kid, having fun pissing about in an easier league, while being the highest paid player surrounded by his Brazillian mates is surely appealing. He'll only have to show up in the CL knockout games and maybe a couple of top of the table clashes with whoever happens to be challenging PSG in Ligue 1.

It's an easy route to take. He's the very definition of the spoiled modern professional footballer who has been molly coddled since he was a kid just because he is pretty good at this football thing. The way he stormed off after that training ground bust up. :lol:
 
He doesn't have much choice anyway should he leave Barca. PSG is a reasonable choice (maximize earnings, playing in competitive league, high chance of trophy every year, guarantee CL football). Yes French league is well behind Spain, ideally he could also move to Real (not possible), England (no club could afford his transfer?), and Germany (no one could afford him, and more or less the same as playing in France), so PSG is the only way to go if he hates playing second fiddle to Messi.
 
You just sold Pogba to cover the outlay for Griezmann and Neymar didn't you?

I would never do that! I agree with Jose, Pogba is as unique as Messi and Neymar!

4-3-3

Herrera, Fellaini, Pogba
Griezmann, Lukaku, Neymar

Actually I am not even being flippant anymore, why are we not doing this!? City will probably spend £478m next summer on a 3rd choice GK and make it all look so insignificant
 
Neymar is moving because of Money? Big deal, every player moves because of money. Neymar was already a superstar when he was at Santos, he moved to Barca because of money (one way or the other, more fame = more money).
 
Every players moves for money, it's very rare that players take a paycut and go to a new club. Neymar has the ambition to become the best footballer in the world and that won't happen until he gets out of Messi's shadow. If he moves then he's making a right decision.
 
Every players moves for money, it's very rare that players take a paycut and go to a new club. Neymar has the ambition to become the best footballer in the world and that won't happen until he gets out of Messi's shadow. If he moves then he's making a right decision.

Exactly. Otherwise players won't even move to Europe from South America.
 
Some people around here probably think PSG is bigger than Barcelona just because they signed Neymar.
 
Some people around here probably think PSG is bigger than Barcelona just because they signed Neymar.

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The notion that PSG are bigger than Barca is almost as ridiculous as you thinking that some of the Caf think that way.
 
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The notion that PSG are bigger than Barca is almost as ridiculous as you thinking that some of the Caf think that way.

Well, the bias against Barca and Madrid is the highest here out of every other football forum I'm on. Extreme bias makes people say and think silly things.
 
Well, the bias against Barca and Madrid is the highest here out of every other football forum I'm on. Extreme bias makes people say and think silly things.

So that makes you think "Redcafe thinks PSG is bigger than barca"? :lol:

You need to relax a bit.
 
What are you going on about?

I'm going on about stuff like saying PSG would have never been eliminated by Barca if they had Neymar. As if Neymar was the only difference between the two clubs. The people who think that Barca has been hit with such a big blow with losing Neymar, and PSG is now all of a sudden favourite to win the CL will have a wake up call next season.
 
I'm going on about stuff like saying PSG would have never been eliminated by Barca if they had Neymar. As if Neymar was the only difference between the two clubs.

He was THE difference in the 2nd leg.

I don't see how one can dispute that.
 
He was THE difference in the 2nd leg.

I don't see how one can dispute that.

Not at all. The difference was that Barca had belief they could do it at 0-4 against them, and PSG had fear they might lose it at 4-0 for them. The difference wasn't 1 player. It was the mentality of Barca vs the mentality of PSG.
 
I'm going on about stuff like saying PSG would have never been eliminated by Barca if they had Neymar. As if Neymar was the only difference between the two clubs. The people who think that Barca has been hit with such a big blow with losing Neymar, and PSG is now all of a sudden favourite to win the CL will have a wake up call next season.
Erm, he did drag you past PSG in the 2nd leg.
 
Not at all. The difference that Barca had belief they could do it at 0-4 against them, and PSG had fear they might lose it at 4-0 for them.

And Neymar led that belief.

While it was 3-1 in the 2nd leg and it was looking lost, Neymar drove Barca forward. No one else amounted to anything during that period.
 
I'm going on about stuff like saying PSG would have never been eliminated by Barca if they had Neymar. As if Neymar was the only difference between the two clubs. The people who think that Barca has been hit with such a big blow with losing Neymar, and PSG is now all of a sudden favourite to win the CL will have a wake up call next season.
But what has that got to do with PSG supposedly being bigger than Barca?
 
Erm, he did drag you past PSG in the 2nd leg.

Well, I can say that without Suarez and Iniesta's goals Neymar wouldn't have done shit. But I do not think 1 player is the decisive factor in a recovery from 0-4 to 6-1. It's too much for 1 player to do.
 
You don't get it. If not Neymar it would have been Gomes who would have turned up against PSG and put in a Mom performance.

Thanks for sharing that fact with us.
 
Well, I can say that without Suarez and Iniesta's goals Neymar wouldn't have done shit. But I do not think 1 player is the decisive factor in a recovery for 0-4 to 6-1. It's too much for 1 player to do.
Being the decisive factor /= Being the sole factor.
 
Well, I can say that without Suarez and Iniesta's goals Neymar wouldn't have done shit. But I do not think 1 player is the decisive factor in a recovery for 0-4 to 6-1. It's too much for 1 player to do.
Being the decisive factor /= Being the sole factor.
 
Is this really happening? I cannot see this going on without some consequences how the FFP is implemented in the future. Barsa has a lot of clout in UEFA and they will surely bring it up.
 
Being the decisive factor /= Being the sole factor.

He wasn't the decisive factor, just like Messi wasn't the decisive factor in Pep's Barca team. Many people here overestimate the importance of 1 player in such a complex sport as football.

If Neymar was the decisive factor for us beating PSG, was he the decisive factor for losing 0-3 to Juventus and not scoring a goal in 180 mins? Because he was absolute shit vs Juventus.

It doesn't work like that in football. Surprised that quite a few people think that's how football works. Tactics, motivation, team cohesion, team-mate orientation when pressing, things like that count the most.
 
Not at all. The difference was that Barca had belief they could do it at 0-4 against them, and PSG had fear they might lose it at 4-0 for them. The difference wasn't 1 player. It was the mentality of Barca vs the mentality of PSG.
You're right, it was one player and a ref.

It's odd you don't believe significantly weakening one side while significantly strengthening the other would not change the outcome of a game that was as tight as that one.
 
He wasn't the decisive factor, just like Messi wasn't the decisive factor in Pep's Barca team. Many people here overestimate the importance of 1 player in such a complex sport as football.

If Neymar was the decisive factor for us beating PSG, was he the decisive factor for losing 0-3 to Juventus and not scoring a goal in 180 mins? Because he was absolute shit vs Juventus.

It doesn't work like that in football. Surprised that quite a few people think that's how football works. Tactics, motivation, team cohesion, team-mate orientation when pressing, things like that count the most.
Ok
 
He wasn't the decisive factor, just like Messi wasn't the decisive factor in Pep's Barca team. Many people here overestimate the importance of 1 player in such a complex sport as football.

If Neymar was the decisive factor for us beating PSG, was he the decisive factor for losing 0-3 to Juventus and not scoring a goal in 180 mins? Because he was absolute shit vs Juventus.

It doesn't work like that in football. Surprised that quite a few people think that's how football works. Tactics, motivation, team cohesion, team-mate orientation when pressing, things like that count the most.

Do you think Barcelona would still be better than PSG if PSG had Messi?(obviously Barcelona don't have Messi in this hypothetical)
 
Well, the bias against Barca and Madrid is the highest here out of every other football forum I'm on. Extreme bias makes people say and think silly things.
Speaking of bias, I was recently attacked relentlessly on a Barca forum for suggesting PSG wouldn't let Verratti join Barcelona. One fella even asked me which club I supported to which I replied United to which he called me "PL fanboy" and then minutes later I was banned. lol
 
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