DavidDeSchmikes
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Ornstein says agreement reached. Yay!
ORNSTEIN!!!!!
Ornstein says agreement reached. Yay!
Ask me later tonightBit off topic but what's wrong with Nagelsmann, is he not doing too well?
He better win tonight, you feckers are one of the few teams good enough to stop Liverpool and City.Ask me later tonight
Wonderful guy, spectacular football most of the time, jury still out whether he can win at the highest level with this current approach.
From Solskjaer to ten Hag. What a step up.
Yeah we better. Anyway, congrats, got to go.He better win tonight, you feckers are one of the few teams good enough to stop Liverpool and City.
Why?I feel bad for Poch.
He's living a pretty good life in Paris. Don't worry about itI feel bad for Poch.
He’ll go back to Spurs when Conte implodes.I feel bad for Poch.
Why?
4 years too much, have you seen the shit we've been served up over the last 3-4 seasons by these players? It's going to take 3 years until everything is set in place, minimum, including getting rid of the slackers.Finally we have our Pep Guardiola is my idol!
Why 4 years though, isn't that too much. Hope it won't be on too big of a salary, like 750k per month.
Yes pleaseOranje Cafe once again?
Don't jinx it please.Oranje Cafe once again?
4 years too much, have you seen the shit we've been served up over the last 3-4 seasons by these players? It's going to take 3 years until everything is set in place, minimum, including getting rid of the slackers.
Then you underestimate what he's up against.It won’t be a 3 year minimum
Then you underestimate what he's up against.
Not really. 18 months is enough. 3/4 windows, robust clear out and backing.
Yep I agree. I think people are being a bit too conservative. It won't be over night, that's for certain, but if given the sufficient backing, we should be seeing positive signs sooner than that.
I mean it depends what your expectations are. I'd say the teething issues should be around for 1.5 seasons and 3-4 transfer windows. After January 2024 we should see a jump in consistency, provided he gets the backing (sometimes we like to do nothing in January so it might extend to summer 2024). But by 24/25 we should see a team that can challenge for the title, if Ten Hag is capable of delivering that. 23/24 we should see a team that gets top 4 safely but lacks the consistency for more, but with some decent cup showings. 22/23 we should see signs of improvement with the system but probably just a top 4 fight. I'd say that's a standard expectation for any rebuild. There are plenty of decent parts to the squad so with the right transfers, it might go quicker.Then you underestimate what he's up against.
18 months to mount a title challenge? Absolutely no chance.Not really. 18 months is enough. 3/4 windows, robust clear out and backing.
I'm talking challenging for the major honours. There's a lot of work that needs to be done to this squad, I'd probably count on one hand the players I'd keep if we want to be taken seriously again.I mean it depends what your expectations are. I'd say the teething issues should be around for 1.5 seasons and 3-4 transfer windows. After January 2024 we should see a jump in consistency, provided he gets the backing (sometimes we like to do nothing in January so it might extend to summer 2024). But by 24/25 we should see a team that can challenge for the title, if Ten Hag is capable of delivering that. 23/24 we should see a team that gets top 4 safely but lacks the consistency for more, but with some decent cup showings. 22/23 we should see signs of improvement with the system but probably just a top 4 fight. I'd say that's a standard expectation for any rebuild. There are plenty of decent parts to the squad so with the right transfers, it might go quicker.
Give it 6 months and The Hag will have bewitched you all. Trust me. The competition are not going to be happy at all with this news.
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Give it 6 months and The Hag will have bewitched you all. Trust me. The competition are not going to be happy at all with this news.
Winning the league within 18 months? I see it didn't take long for the CAF to become deluded. Not a surprise. This definitely isn't going to end well if you're putting this sort of pressure on him from the start. Our squad is an aging one. Lindelof is our youngest cb and he's 27, the rest will be either nearing or over 30 in 18 months. The only players in the current squad we have who are below the age of 25 are Dalot, AWB (who will probably be sold anyway), Elanga, Sancho and Rashford (just). You'd like to think some of the players on loan or in the academy can step up but you can't guarantee they will.Not really. 18 months is enough. 3/4 windows, robust clear out and backing.