Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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McClaren was the best assistant manager United have had in my lifetime. That said, it was a long while ago now.....

I'd be happy with either Ten Hag or Poch, although I know nothing about the former apart from the at times ridiculous hyperbole posted on here.
 
McClaren was the best assistant manager United have had in my lifetime. That said, it was a long while ago now.....

I'd be happy with either Ten Hag or Poch, although I know nothing about the former apart from the at times ridiculous hyperbole posted on here.
Better than Queiroz?
 
McClaren was the best assistant manager United have had in my lifetime. That said, it was a long while ago now.....

I'd be happy with either Ten Hag or Poch, although I know nothing about the former apart from the at times ridiculous hyperbole posted on here.
Whats he doing these days anyway?
 
Jamie Jackson :lol:

What a BS story, no way Steve will accept to work under ETH as assistant. That's like Carlos Queiroz asked Sir Alex to be his assistant. ETH was Steve's assistant. No former boss will accept that.
 
Jamie Jackson :lol:

What a BS story, no way Steve will accept to work under ETH. That's like Carlos Queiroz asked Sir Alex to be his assistant. ETH was Steve's assistant. No former boss will accept that.
I think Sir Alex Ferguson is different from most managers.
 
Why would you include former players in a manager interview process. Most of them are already harping on about Pochettino anyway. I guess this might be going one way this club will never learn. :mad:
 
Name me football manager and assistant manager who had worked together before end up swapping role. :lol: Thinking about that is hillarious.
You need to consider a specification scenario of an assistant manager being the next big thing and that manager being reduced to jobbing at smaller gigs. And also add a top club in their home country to the mix.

Its a specific scenario which hasn't been seen before but I dont really see direct comparable situations either.
 


This club is so embarrassing ffs, asking former players opinions on who should be the manager.

I love United, but I do think the constant need for the club to romanticize everything has certainly hurt us the past decade (bringing on former players, constantly extending aging players that are past it, overrating players from the academy, etc.)
 
That makes no sense.
In what way is Pochettino a yes man?
there is no logic in the idea of getting the fans excited about Ten Hag only to hire Poch, if that’s what you mean.

Unfortunately it does make sense. In order to keep the commercial beast alive post-Ole, the Glazers need the fans to see the new manager as credible. They know it has to be a competent high press advocate because only that can get top four going forward. So within that new restriction, from the Glazers point of view the next question is which manager will bend over the most for their non-football agenda in the way Ole always did. And if you look at what happened at PSG, the answer is Poch all day long.

But given ETH is the overwhelming choice of the fans and their interim manager, they have to dress up Poch as a pure footballing decision. So you get all this second interview bullsh#t which I never heard of happening before.

I could be wrong. I hope I am. But if they choose Poch then I will be very suspicious of their reasons, even though I rate him as a manager.
 
Whether the former players want Poch or not asking them for their views in the first place just seems utterly pointless.
 
This club is so embarrassing ffs, asking former players opinions on who should be the manager.

I love United, but I do think the constant need for the club to romanticize everything has certainly hurt us the past decade (bringing on former players, constantly extending aging players that are past it, overrating players from the academy, etc.)
Definitely see this as the club turning the screw for Poch - we know unanimously what ex-players supposedly want.

I have a feeling that Fletcher as technical director will go down as one of the worst appointments in our recent history.
 
I'm sure Shaun Goater was asked for his views whether City should hire Pep or not.
 
Name me football manager and assistant manager who had worked together before end up swapping role. :lol: Thinking about that is hillarious.
It has actually happend with a fairly big manager; Sven-Göran Eriksson started out as an assistant to Tord Grip, but they changed positions after a while and Tord was his assistant in Lazio, England and Man City for example.
 
The bit about asking the former players is from 6 weeks ago. And since then it's been widely reported that Ten Hag is the preferred choice.
So its just rehashing an old story to keep the story going?
 
This old school is ruining us. I bet we are asking Giggsy again.

Them Dan James scouting
 
Ah good. Nice to see we have the latest tweet that’ll keep the masses moaning for the next few days. “Embarrassing” has already been trotted out.
Asking ex players for consultation after ex player's recommendation of another ex player getting a job set the club back a further 2 years is quite embarrassing to be fair. I don't care what stage of the process it was in.
 
I think this is earmarked by the players who have shown to have a weak mentality more so than the manager. United need a manager with a personal vision, philosophy that also influences the hierarchy and players that will accommodate to that approach.

Klopp is the best example in terms of a transition that is realistic for United compared to the spending of Guardiola playing russian roulette with his fullbacks. The team that Klopp first adopted is unrecognisable to the one he's built. I think we could barely count on one hand how many players would survive a cull if the club is serious about success.

Erik Ten Hag is an excellent choice given the summation of his time at Ajax. The only thing that many are using for a basis to support Poch is league experience, but it's going to take more than that to galvanize this club. Jose also had league experience but the longer he stayed the more stale the situation became. The team needs an ethics and cultural reset I think ETH can deliver this he's also seemingly an excellent coach.
And whatever we think about Das Klopp, he's very fair but ruthless when it's time to get rid of jokers. And Pep as well, for all the talk of his tactics, he doesn't accept passengers.
 
The media loves poch, the ex players prefer poch, Fergie endorses poch, players want poch and fecking Murtough and Fletcher leading the process of hiring the new manager ask and consult all these fecking former players about who to appoint. Yeah not so sure anymore. I think they are pulling the wool over our eyes. They know the fans prefer ten hag by a landslide and they are trying to appease the fans into believing this whole process malarkey and pacify them ultimately whey they select Poch in the end. “Hey look we went through the interview process rigorously and decided for Poch after examining everything in detail.”
 
So its just rehashing an old story to keep the story going?
I just read the article and Mitten clearly mentioned that the former players were consulted when the process started over 6 weeks ago. And at that time Pochettino was the favourite. But since then it's been reported that ten Hag is now the preferred choice by people at the club.
 
I just read the article and Mitten clearly mentioned that the former players were consulted when the process started over 6 weeks ago. And at that time Pochettino was the favourite. But since then it's been reported that ten Hag is now the preferred choice by people at the club.
Sounds good. If you read just the tweet it sounds a lot worse and most people read just that. Although I think its Ten Hag I'm starting to be suspicious.
 
Asking ex players for consultation after ex player's recommendation of another ex player getting a job set the club back a further 2 years is quite embarrassing to be fair. I don't care what stage of the process it was in.
We clearly still aren't ready to move on from the past, and until we fully do so, we won't have a successful future.

Reminds me of Liverpool in the 90's and 2000's, clinging on to anything and anyone that was involved in their successful era. Instead of learning from their dormant years it seems we're doing everything we can to replicate them.
 
Why the feck are we asking ex-players? None of them have worked under any of the candidates, most of them have failed miserably as managers, and I doubt they have enough knowledge about the candidates to form an objective opinion.

"erm yeah erm Poch is premier league proven erm yeah erm I don't really know about Van Hag, I heard he won a few titles with PSV in the Bundesliga but erm the Premier league is a big step up erm"
 
The one sidedness of the ex players and pundits towards Poch is sad to see. You can’t be this biased towards one manager and ignore the other and expect the fans to listen to your opinions and take them seriously. The complete undermining of ten hag and the lack of acknowledgement of his work is borderline criminal.

Ever since ETH and Pochettino became favourites for the job, the fans have turned out to be more reasonable and knowledgeable than these ex players and pundits. On this very forum, posters have discussed , debated, reasoned, argued on all points, pros and cons, risk and rewards of the said two managers than these football experts who are paid to do so. The absence of knowledge, the incoherent points , the lack of logic given by these ex players and football experts goes to show that the understanding of the game doesn’t depend whether you were an ex pro or a top player. It depends on the amount of football you have absorbed in your life and the varied football knowledge you have acquired all these years as a result regardless of you being just an armchair fan or a football player and in this particular ten hag v poch case, the fans have shown to be more profound and comprehensive in their analysis than these pundits.
But why though? I just don't get it. Would they really be cheering 4th places? Or is it like lessgreatdane says, to look like a better pundit?
 
Mitten also mentioned that Steve McLaren was asked to give his opinion and he gave a glowing reference for ten Hag, who he believed had the attributes to succeed in the job provided he's surrounded by a support network.
 
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It has actually happend with a fairly big manager; Sven-Göran Eriksson started out as an assistant to Tord Grip, but they changed positions after a while and Tord was his assistant in Lazio, England and Man City for example.
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