Who cares? This is easily the worst United season in almost 40 years. Is anyone still watching or caring?
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“Hi Erik, yeah, so, would you rather ride a train, dance in the rain or feel no pain? , hello, Erik?”
Anyone else getting cold feet on ETH? If we had a decent board and we weren't handing out contract extensions to players who have failed us I'd be all for the Dutch man. However under this regime I think maybe Pochettino could be a better option. I'd probably take Simeone over either of them tbh.
Nope. Still think he's our best bet. Poch would make me feel completely unhopeful about next season, and I'd be partially checked out.
Defo not, we should be aiming to build something, not bumble along with the same odd parts and carrying the same overpaid underachievers. Poch will never win us a PL/CL.
There's more to management than coaching though. This United circus can swallow you up. We need the strongest personality and Simeone undoubtedly would fit the bill in that regard.
God, I think I'd die of boredom if Simeone was manager. Poch has proven already that he's not good enough at the top level in the Prem and the CL so why he's even in contention is bizarre to me. ETH is the only sensible option tbh, not that he guarantees anything either but he hasn't yet proven himself incapable.
You can’t want that kind of football at United though, I’m sorry. Would be horrible.
United at the moment are like an old car you love but it's dropping to bits and all the components are failing. What we need is a shiny new car ETH MU22.
You're probably right. Just have a bad feeling about ten Hag now.
Who’s to say in all these supposed interviews there’s been discussions about how ETH would use the existing squad. Wouldnt surprise me if they asked ETH if he would use someone like Bruno, he said I absolutely can and then they went forward with Bruno’s contract extension.
Could be coincidental but a reported breakthrough in talks with ETH last week closely followed by Bruno’s contract extension is interesting.
Could be coincidental but a reported breakthrough in talks with ETH last week closely followed by Bruno’s contract extension is interesting.
Also I dont believe any tweets about a second round of interviews and all this crap. Our next manager already knows by now imo.
Should be bringing in van der Sar alongside Alopecia Man.
You'd really like to think so wouldn't you... but with this club? i'm just not even sure anymore.
They're probably making them perform some sort of talent show as part of the interviews.
True, but I don't think its just the coaching ETH brings. I genuinely believe he'd work better with Rangnick in revamping our academy, and getting our younger prospects accustomed to playing a certain way, just like how Ajax's academy churns out players ready made for the first team. And from what I've ready he comes across as a relentless perfectionist and disciplinarian, which is exactly the profile we should be bringing in.
I just don't see Poch giving us those attributes. Simeone is a no from me because I can't stand his tepid brand of football.
What concerns me the most about Poch is his complete failure to reign in the stars at PSG. He's looked so weak over there since day one, with none of the qualities on show that made him an attractive manager at Spurs/Southampton. It's like he's gone against everything he used to stand for.
We're a PSG lite ourselves, so why would he be any different here? I can't shake that feeling.
We need someone to rule with an iron fist, overhauling the entire club. Not a yes man, and it's sad to say, but that's what he looks like he's become to me.
We're a PSG lite ourselves, so why would he be any different here? I can't shake that feeling.
We need someone to rule with an iron fist, overhauling the entire club. Not a yes man, and it's sad to say, but that's what he looks like he's become to me.
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Yeah I don't either. The press need to keep up this narrative of things edging closer or something happening, when in reality they know close to feckall.
Yeah feel exactly the same
Just seen a piece on Wazza having his say and he favours Poch to get the gig.
Sadly, I’m convinced now that the Glazers are the rot that won’t go away. It’s not even that they won’t spend… they will. It’s just… the empire was built by Malcolm, and Joel/Avram are essentially twits.
It worked when they bought the club because SAF was such a force of nature, but unearthing that type of manager who can stare their boss in the eye and say “feck you” is pretty rare these days. Klopp, Pep, Conte, Zidane, maybe Tuchel... That’s the list.
I don’t know either… so painful.
This is a big problem for Manchester United now !
All the so called Legends are clamouring for Poch instead of the fans favourite Eric Ten Hag.
If Manchester United give them a blind eyes and appoint Ten hag, believe you me they lmwill criticize hell out of him in every single game.They will mount severe pressure on him as Manchester United coach in any slightest chance they have. There will be no breathing space for him Ten Hag.They are doing all this to scare him away from Manchester United.
A repeat of Jose Mourinho type of blind criticism from the legends is about to happen again if Manchester United appoint ETH.
Manchester United legends are also part of our problem.
All the so called Legends are clamouring for Poch instead of the fans favourite Eric Ten Hag.
If Manchester United give them a blind eyes and appoint Ten hag, believe you me they lmwill criticize hell out of him in every single game.They will mount severe pressure on him as Manchester United coach in any slightest chance they have. There will be no breathing space for him Ten Hag.They are doing all this to scare him away from Manchester United.
A repeat of Jose Mourinho type of blind criticism from the legends is about to happen again if Manchester United appoint ETH.
Manchester United legends are also part of our problem.
Yup agreed. Any “second round of interviews” is most likely going to be about signing the contract already.
The one sidedness of the ex players and pundits towards Poch is sad to see. You can’t be this biased towards one manager and ignore the other and expect the fans to listen to your opinions and take them seriously. The complete undermining of ten hag and the lack of acknowledgement of his work is borderline criminal.
Ever since ETH and Pochettino became favourites for the job, the fans have turned out to be more reasonable and knowledgeable than these ex players and pundits. On this very forum, posters have discussed , debated, reasoned, argued on all points, pros and cons, risk and rewards of the said two managers than these football experts who are paid to do so. The absence of knowledge, the incoherent points , the lack of logic given by these ex players and football experts goes to show that the understanding of the game doesn’t depend whether you were an ex pro or a top player. It depends on the amount of football you have absorbed in your life and the varied football knowledge you have acquired all these years as a result regardless of you being just an armchair fan or a football player and in this particular ten hag v poch case, the fans have shown to be more profound and comprehensive in their analysis than these pundits.
Ever since ETH and Pochettino became favourites for the job, the fans have turned out to be more reasonable and knowledgeable than these ex players and pundits. On this very forum, posters have discussed , debated, reasoned, argued on all points, pros and cons, risk and rewards of the said two managers than these football experts who are paid to do so. The absence of knowledge, the incoherent points , the lack of logic given by these ex players and football experts goes to show that the understanding of the game doesn’t depend whether you were an ex pro or a top player. It depends on the amount of football you have absorbed in your life and the varied football knowledge you have acquired all these years as a result regardless of you being just an armchair fan or a football player and in this particular ten hag v poch case, the fans have shown to be more profound and comprehensive in their analysis than these pundits.
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I think this is earmarked by the players who have shown to have a weak mentality more so than the manager. United need a manager with a personal vision, philosophy that also influences the hierarchy and players that will accommodate to that approach.
Klopp is the best example in terms of a transition that is realistic for United compared to the spending of Guardiola playing russian roulette with his fullbacks. The team that Klopp first adopted is unrecognisable to the one he's built. I think we could barely count on one hand how many players would survive a cull if the club is serious about success.
Erik Ten Hag is an excellent choice given the summation of his time at Ajax. The only thing that many are using for a basis to support Poch is league experience, but it's going to take more than that to galvanize this club. Jose also had league experience but the longer he stayed the more stale the situation became. The team needs an ethics and cultural reset I think ETH can deliver this he's also seemingly an excellent coach.
I believe all of our ex players are saying Poch because he's the safe bet for decent results, so they don't look too stupid later on.
Where ten Hag is more a bold choice.
I want ten Hag, and I really need it announced soon so I can spend the rest of the season muppeting about new signings - give me something to look forward to!
Where ten Hag is more a bold choice.
I want ten Hag, and I really need it announced soon so I can spend the rest of the season muppeting about new signings - give me something to look forward to!
Pochettino took PSG to the semifinals of the CL in his first half season there. How well have united done since our last semifinal appearance in 2011?
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If we get Poch it just means we're going nowhere as a club. If that hasnt been clear already. Getting Ten Hag might give me some hope.
Mourinho took Chelsea to sfs in 2014. LvG took his Netherlands side to sfs. Both were failures at utd.
i want Ten Hag, but how? plenty of managers fail at one club and succeed at another, Hiring Ten Hag isn't a guaranteed success and Poch isn't a guaranteed failure.
By that logic we shouldnt hire anyone. Nothing is guaranteed of course.
no, we shouldn't. Poch isn't Neil Warnock, there's a reason why he's been linked with us so much, got the PSG job and is linked with Real Madrid. He's a very good manager. I think Ten Hag is a better choice if given time but i won't turn my nose up at Pochettino if hired.
The fact you flopping back to Poch and then reckon Simeone is the answer, should he enough to not go with your gut here
Simeone would be such a Woodward appointment
Not cold feet, and I don’t know enough about Ten Hag to know who is the better coach - but simply looking at all the data posted on here I do think Poch would be a better fit for United. He plays more attractive attacking football and he’s also experienced in the PL.
That said I understand the clamour for new and different even if the ETH cult here is a little weird at times, and I will happily support either man if appointed.
I would rather gouge my own eyes with spoons than see simeone in charge of United. Cnut.
He's a top coach but wouldn't want him anywhere near us at the moment in time.
It would be doomed to failure. Would get even less time from the fans with the style of football.
City will never go for Poch and you can quote me on that. I can see Real being interested though as Perez seems to really like him.
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