VanHaal'sRedArmy
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Watching Brighton v. Arsenal just for Graham Potter and tactical analysis.
Big fan of G-Potz. Be interesting to see where he goes next.Watching Brighton v. Arsenal just for Graham Potter and tactical analysis.
Big fan of G-Potz. Be interesting to see where he goes next.
I understand what you're saying but short term appointments seem to be more of a thing nowadays.I think Conte would just be a stop-gap, which is fine. But, I worry his short-term appointment will do long-term damage to the squad. Also, he doesn't really develop young players: what would happen to Sancho, Greenwood, and Rashford? Lastly, his transfer record is very bad: while at Chelsea, he bought Morata, Bakayoko, Batshuayi, Drinkwater, Luiz, Zappacosta, Emerson, Giroud, and Barkley. His only two good signings were Kante and Rudiger.
It's all pointless anyway, Ole isn't going anywhere. This team is far too good to not get top 4, even with poor coaching set up.
At least Ole gives them chances; Greenwood has come a long way in the last couple years - and I think Ole should get a lot of credit for his development? Would Conte even play Rashford, Sancho, and Greenwood? Doesn't he prefer to play with three CBs and two wingbacks? But, maybe Conte would come up with a solution to this problem, not sure. I agree that since Conte has a proven track record he might help us win a trophy in the short run, but I worry about the price we will pay in the long run.I understand what you're saying but short term appointments seem to be more of a thing nowadays.
As for development, are they going to develop any further with Solskjaer? I doubt it.
In terms of signings I'm not too worried about that. The squad is almost there bar one or two. We just need a manager with a proven track record.
Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
I wouldn't be so confident. I am no longer. We are clearly playing much worse than last year and the CM is even worse which I didn't see coming.
Better managers will come up with a plan that masks the problem in personnel, not expose them further with weird selections.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Great managers don’t go for aging Ronaldo and spend that money on actual issues in our lineup. Good managers let go Martial and VdB to raise funds if they don’t see them as important part of the squad, it’s his own doing stop making these clueless excuses.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
At least Ole gives them chances; Greenwood has come a long way in the last couple years - and I think Ole should get a lot of credit for his development? Would Conte even play Rashford, Sancho, and Greenwood? Doesn't he prefer to play with three CBs and two wingbacks? But, maybe Conte would come up with a solution to this problem, not sure. I agree that since Conte has a proven track record he might help us win a trophy in the short run, but I worry about the price we will pay in the long run.
Top managers have a way of making things work. Before Tuchel came, Chelsea were trying to get rid of Jorginho and couldn't find a CB partnership that could hold water. They solve problems. Pep doesn't have a striker but no one has reduced expectations of him cause of that. It is not compulsory Fred and McTominay must play together.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Agree, a new manager may be needed, but until the CM is sorted by getting rid of Fred, DVB and buying a Rice type player . New guy will have the same problem, and go to the board for what he wantsSacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
I wouldn't have Rodgers cause of the Liverpool connection. He's on a Klopp like level where it'd be worth it.Potter, Rodgers and Hasenhuttl would all be huge upgrades on Solskjaer and eminently ‘gettable’. And that’s only looking at the Premier League - there’s many more throughout Europe who would have their stamp on that United inside six weeks. It’s so depressing watching us sleepwalk through another season when the obvious has been, well, obvious for a long time now.
He has had almost 3 years to buy a DM. And he has spent money. Tell the board to buy a DM instead of VdB who he somehow never plays. Or buy a DM instead of Amad and Pellistri, etc. He has had so many chances to upgrade the midfield.Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Sacking Ole won't make McFred any better. Or make VDB into a DM or make Matic's legs work again.
And if you plan to fix that by buying, then why sack Ole anyway since you've fixed the actual problem?
It's not that I rate him, I just don't see the point of changing him for someone who will face the exact same problem.
Give it to CristianoHypothetically, let's say whatever manager the club really wanted (be it Zidane, Conte, Ten Hag, whoever) said they'd take the job but only in the summer.
What would you do for the rest of this season? Just leave Ole at it? Hire a caretaker manager? If so, who?
Hypothetically, let's say whatever manager the club really wanted (be it Zidane, Conte, Ten Hag, whoever) said they'd take the job but only in the summer.
What would you do for the rest of this season? Just leave Ole at it? Hire a caretaker manager? If so, who?
To be fair, Ole did not make the Ronaldo signing.Great managers don’t go for aging Ronaldo and spend that money on actual issues in our lineup. Good managers let go Martial and VdB to raise funds if they don’t see them as important part of the squad, it’s his own doing stop making these clueless excuses.
I don’t think it could have happened without his blessing, someone like Conte would have never give in if player would be forced on him. It’s quite clear Ole is just happy to be here and is trying to keep everyone content too.To be fair, Ole did not make the Ronaldo signing.
What would you do for the rest of this season? Just leave Ole at it? Hire a caretaker manager? If so, who?
Only a matter of time
I don't know.
But how United handle the possible scenario - where Ole is sacked - will be extremely interesting to witness.
Most United fans I know are far from convinced Ole will ever truly deliver.
But then again they're almost sure we'll royally feck up the next appointment if he's sacked.
Nice situation to be in.
I think the lack of an obvious replacement might keep Ole in a job for a while longer. I can’t see us going for Conte and I have no idea who else there is available. Can’t see us getting Zidane either
I’d beg to differ. I think the squad is too unbalanced now and the arrival of CR7 could make situations difficult. I think there is very chance we don’t make top 4 this season if he stays as managerIt's all pointless anyway, Ole isn't going anywhere. This team is far too good to not get top 4, even with poor coaching set up.